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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Full frame v. APC - Canon mentioned in several comments | |
EverLearning wrote:
While there has been great progress on APSC sensors, there is still at least one difference that one needs to consider.
Everybody's definition and comfort zone of "acceptable" IQ for "high ISO" is different but here is an example of the difference I refer to, and it is one that mostly affects wildlife photographers and night photographers. The 10D was perhaps "acceptable" up to 400 ISO. The 7D Mark II was perhaps "acceptable" up to 1600 ISO (no need for a whole bunch of posts about how you can get perfectly clean images at 16000 ISO; this is just a demonstrative example). Perhaps the R7 delivers "acceptable" images at 3200 ISO. But each time APSC has improved it's high ISO capabilities, FF has also taken a step forward. And yes, the NR s/w has vastly improved over the years, but what works for "high ISO" images on APSC also works for "high ISO" images on FF. So a top end APSC camera may very well have better high ISO noise management than a top FF from 3 or 4 years ago, but it still isn't going to beat out a FF at the edges of morning and evening light (or in the dark for nightscape photography).
Sensors have gotten better. NR s/w has gotten better. Fast lenses have gotten lighter. In combination, we can now take cleaner photos than we could in the past OR take photos that just weren't possible in the past (if one wants a certain standard of image IQ).
Cropping a FF, high ISO image may make it just as noisy as an uncropped image at the same ISO on an APSC but one can negate that by spending more for a big fast prime so as to not need to crop. How much do you want to spend and how much weight you want to carry will determine what IQ you can get at the edges of daylight.
I shot APSC for years but finally gave up waiting for a 7D MII replacement and bought the R5. While I love it, I am usually craving more reach than I can get with my 100-400 II and 1.4x TC OR craving more light with that combo. I am holding out hope for the rumoured RF 500mm f/4.5 DO lens. Others may be completely content with the R7 and the 100-500. It comes down to what do you shoot, when do you shoot, how big do you print, what is acceptable IQ for you and how much are you willing to pay. As Sy Sez said, they are tools and are best suited for differing tasks as they still differ....Show more →
"I am holding out hope for the rumoured RF 500mm f/4.5 DO lens."
Buy a 100-500 or 500 f/4 or 600 f/4 prime. Yes, tradeoffs exist but it is impossible to shoot with vapor lenses? Alternatively, come up with a ED/VR to RF adapter and make a mint.
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