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Here's my situation. I shot LSU football for Burrow's 2 years. I've since sold a few things, most notably, my Canon 500mm f/4 v1. I still have 2 Canon 80Ds, 2 Sony a6500's. Canon 70-200 L2.8 (non-IS), 10 mm fisheye for Sony, and a Sigma 17-50 f/2.8 EX HSM for Canon. Have the Sony converter to use the Canon lenses on my 6500's.

My dilema is this. I need a long lens and depending on what, maybe a body. Specifically, I'm doing Arkansas football. TBD when some of the game times will be. They'll likely be playing the majority of day games, so a Nikon 200-500 f/5.6 with a newer body with better ISO capabilities would be fine (I think). Another option is a newer Sony body with higher ISO capabilities with a 100-400 might work.

Getting another used Canon 500 f/4 is another option. My goal is to buy used and then sell after football with a small hit on the resale. Just looking for ideas.



Aug 04, 2022 at 08:59 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Football Gear Question


I just looked at the schedule and I think you will have a few night games as they are announced. I would go with a 300 2.8 with whatever system you are going to use.


Aug 05, 2022 at 06:55 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Football Gear Question


My advice would be a 400 2.8. That is the standard college football lens and you can throw a 1.4x on when you need it. If it was me, I’d shoot a couple of used 1DXs.

Now if you want Nikon, I’d go with the 300mm and 500mm pf’s and a pair of used D5’s. If you really want f4, then I’d go for the 500mm f4 VR.



Sep 03, 2022 at 04:44 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Football Gear Question


A_Altenburger wrote:
Here's my situation. I shot LSU football for Burrow's 2 years. I've since sold a few things, most notably, my Canon 500mm f/4 v1. I still have 2 Canon 80Ds, 2 Sony a6500's. Canon 70-200 L2.8 (non-IS), 10 mm fisheye for Sony, and a Sigma 17-50 f/2.8 EX HSM for Canon. Have the Sony converter to use the Canon lenses on my 6500's.

My dilema is this. I need a long lens and depending on what, maybe a body. Specifically, I'm doing Arkansas football. TBD when some of the game times will be. They'll likely be playing the majority of day
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First order of business is to determine if the budget can handle long glass and depending on brand possibly a suitable body. The converter does work but the AF is not the same as native glass. Believe the fps is also limited. When I first started my migration to Sony from 20+ years with Canon, I tried using a converter with Canon glass. It's limitations quickly became obvious and wasn't going not satisfy my need for action sports, so I rapidly moved to native glass. Definitely a wallet deflating approach

You do seem to be in an awkward position regarding equipment. Can't say that adding a third brand (Nikon 200-500) is the best approach. That leaves either Canon or Sony. From a used lens standpoint there will be significantly more Canon lenses out there than Sony but I personally would not cherish using them attached to an 80D for sports. If going that direction I'd look for a used 1DX (ver 1 or II) body. If looking towards Sony, a used Sony A9II + 100-400 will work. You will be in the higher ISO range for the night games but i suspect the Arkansas field lighting is pretty good. Action shots will clean up nicely. I would however recommend you avoid capturing action that requires heavy cropping. I suppose you could try using that lens with the A6500 but that body's AF is not anywhere close to the A9's capability. Regardless of those two brands, the latest version of the 100-400 most likely will get you through the season. Keep in mind, there is NOTHING that compares to what the 400mm ƒ2.8 can provide.

My transition to Sony was due to how well it out performed the current setup of Canon fast glass + 1DXII. Armed with that experience and looking at your situation, I would sell both 80D's plus one A6500 and pick up a used A9II & 100-400. Use the 70-200 + converter on the other A6500 as the second body and see if you can get through the season. An alternate, sell both A6500s, one 80D and use the remaining 80D + 70-200 as the second body.

What you do afterwards is another discussion.



Sep 19, 2022 at 10:06 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Football Gear Question


With my Nikon sports shooter blinders on, from personal experience I can tell you the Nikon AF-S 200-500mm F5.6 does not auto-focus fast enough for college football, if it can't keep up with High School football. I used one for 2 years with High School soccer and day football and it always seemed to be a bit behind what I expected, that was using D500, D4s, so I sold mine.

There are a lot of Nikon VRI, VRII AF-S 200-400mm F4Gs out there for sale, well under $2K, that do perform as you expect and is way less weight to lug around. I have a VRI, and with a D5, Z9, no issues, image below.







Sep 19, 2022 at 10:32 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Football Gear Question


What can you afford or are willing to invest?


Sep 19, 2022 at 11:04 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Football Gear Question


I tried a few combos. Ended up landing on the D850 and a 200-400 v1. Got a good deal on them. Still going to be stuck with an f/4, but the 850 will allow me to bump the ISO up a little more and still have acceptable noise levels. Think I'm going to hang on to my Canon 500 f/4 v1 through baseball season anyway.


Sep 20, 2022 at 08:26 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Football Gear Question


I did end up going with a Nikon D850 and 200-400. Had the 200-400 before and really liked it. I'll probably hold on to one of my Canon bodies and unload both a6500's.


Sep 20, 2022 at 08:28 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Football Gear Question


A_Altenburger wrote:
I did end up going with a Nikon D850 and 200-400. Had the 200-400 before and really liked it. I'll probably hold on to one of my Canon bodies and unload both a6500's.


Good choice...I've used the 200-400 for ice hockey and basketball with really good lighting.




Sep 20, 2022 at 08:57 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Football Gear Question


A_Altenburger wrote:
I did end up going with a Nikon D850 and 200-400. Had the 200-400 before and really liked it. I'll probably hold on to one of my Canon bodies and unload both a6500's.


Let me know how that combo performs. I'm curious.




Sep 22, 2022 at 01:23 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Football Gear Question


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Nov 23, 2022 at 06:29 AM
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Andy!!! How have you been? Long-time since I've seen you around FM or any other photo pages. Hope you're doing well.


Nov 30, 2022 at 12:22 PM





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