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Archive 2022 · Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 vs 100mm f/2.8 macro

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 vs 100mm f/2.8 macro


So, I rented both lenses last week and used them both on a model shoot. I had an immediate bias the moment I saw the 85mm, because a lens has to be extremely special for me to warrant that much bulk. I think its size borders on the grotesque.

Now, having shot with both, I ended up more impressed with the rendering of the 100mm than with anything really special of the 85mm. I own the 50mm f/1.2, which I also find too large, but at least it’s a more versatile focal length than the 85mm.

I know I would never buy the 85mm but might buy the 100mm, especially since I fear Canon will introduce a crazy large 135mm to replace the beloved EF 135mm f/2. A 28mm and a 135mm are the two focal lengths I’m still waiting for in RF.

I’m wondering what the experience is of other R shooters who have tried both lenses.



Jul 09, 2022 at 08:28 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 vs 100mm f/2.8 macro


I often used the 100/2.8L IS Macro as backup to the 70-200/2.8L IS at events. Sometimes, I used it instead, for more intimate situations. It's a great portrait lens. It's a great lens for handheld macro, too.

I also own the EF 50/1.2L and EF 85/1.2L II. I don't use them often, but they'll be among the very last lenses that I sell, when I do the big sell off.



Jul 09, 2022 at 09:49 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 vs 100mm f/2.8 macro


John I have not used either R lens so this is purely anecdotal.
I use the ef 85 L a lot for studio but have never used the 100.
That said for me the 85 is at the limit, lengthwise that I can use in the studio. I can get full-length body shots with the 85 but would not have the room with the 100. As it is I'm 30-35 feet away. Now outdoors that limitation goes away. But I think it's pretty safe to say that the 85 is pretty much a studio specialist.
OTOH the 100 is more than 2 stops slower, possibly not being able to render that look that so many like of having the ears pretty OOF which the 85 pulls off admirably. And the 100 is by design a Macro first, everything else second. I say second because if one is NOT gonna use the 100 for macro, why own it at all? The the 70-200 will match the speed and the versatility is endless, including small studio usage at 70mm and the 100 non L cost less than 1/2 as much. Now if you're an actual Macro shooter and can pull off double duty then the Macro becomes more of a justification for using it in studio but you never said if your model shoot was indoors or out because for outdoors, that will change everything! And to shoot the 1.2 wide open outdoors during daytime you'll need a good and expensive ND to go with it.
John



Jul 09, 2022 at 10:34 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 vs 100mm f/2.8 macro


Well, then Bobby Tan sent me this link: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1757213/0

Looks like I’m buying neither. I’m not much of a macro shooter, but the 100mm would have done double duty for film scanning.



Jul 09, 2022 at 10:44 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 vs 100mm f/2.8 macro


Isn't the EF 85/1.2 lighter + excellent rendering? RF isn't that much heavier than the EF versions.

Edited on Jul 10, 2022 at 12:45 PM · View previous versions



Jul 10, 2022 at 11:43 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 vs 100mm f/2.8 macro


There are a couple of other options. The RF 85 f/2 is one, and the EF 100 mm Macro is another. Of course, you’d need the adapter with the EF, but it is worth consideration, I’d say. Both are fairly light.


Jul 10, 2022 at 12:12 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 vs 100mm f/2.8 macro


I was surprised, not much difference between EF 85 1.2 + adapter and Rf version. Only 60g between the V2 and RF! And I think v1 is a little heavier!

And you can say that you don't want an adapter, but that's basically what you have to do with mirrorless, make teles longer. The shorter sensor to flange distance helps on 20mm etc. Teles have to be made longer than DSLR requires

So I'm seeing 1025g on both EF v1 and 2, plus 110g on the R adapter for a total of 1135g vs 1165g on the R, which has to be longer than the EF. I'd be interested if these are correct thought I saw v1 heavier



Jul 10, 2022 at 04:19 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 vs 100mm f/2.8 macro


I went through this same situation earlier this year when switching to the R3. I opted for the Samyang RF 1.4 in lieu of the Canon variant. I rented/borrowed the Canon and Samyang versions and couldn't justify the price differences between the two and opted for the Samyang. I have put the Samyang 85 through the day-today ringer and it's held up well.

I have used the EF 100 L lenses and will be picking up one in the future after selling on off in hopes for an improved RF. Call me thrifty, but I have no issue using an EF lens with RF adapter on an RF body when I know I will make great images with the EF version. For me, the 100mm L is more of a specialty lens that fills a small gap, but it comes in handy for those one-off shots. Right now, it's just not wort the upgrade.



Jul 10, 2022 at 09:08 PM





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