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I am looking for an alternative to the 80mm macro. Need AF for focus stacking, and want something smaller than the 80. Is the 60mm macro any good? And would it take extension tubes to get down to 1:1? Anything in 3rd-party that will give AF?


Jun 24, 2022 at 11:36 AM
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Michael Everet wrote:
I am looking for an alternative to the 80mm macro. Need AF for focus stacking, and want something smaller than the 80. Is the 60mm macro any good? And would it take extension tubes to get down to 1:1? Anything in 3rd-party that will give AF?


The Zeiss Touit 50mm f2.8 is very good, and goes to 1:1 (and is an AF lens).



Jun 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM
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Well, yes, the 60mm macro is "any good".

If supersharp, great rendering, very neutral colors and very good Bokeh accounts for "any good"; anyway. If I had a Fujifilm X system, theres no way I would skip this lens.

It has possibly the slowest autofocus of all Fujifilm X lenses though and I dont know if extension tubes work well with that lens either. They might not, since 2:1 macros arent symmetrical designs, after all.

Its super cheap on the used market, because its one of the trinity of first Fujinon XF lenses (the other two are the 18/2 pancake and the "magic" 35/1.4) and nobody wants it because of its slow autofocus.


Personally I would just adapt my Nikkor AF 60mm f2.8 micro instead which is equally amazing, but offers 1:1. That one would only be manual focus on Fujifilm though. That ones traded for just $200 right now, you would still need a Nikon F to Fujifilm X adapter as well though. Anyway I could adapt many of my other Nikon F lenses as well, so for me that would be a nobrainer.



Jun 24, 2022 at 12:22 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Alternative AF macro


If you can wait, Fuji recently updated the roadmap with a new 30mm f2.8 macro lens that will come out later this year:

https://fujifilm-x.com/global/products/x-mount-lens-roadmap/

No other info on it though.



Jun 24, 2022 at 03:27 PM
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You don't use AF for focus stacking though... do you? I use film-era manual lenses (usually a Canon FD 50 3.5 macro) and turn the focus ring or move the rail accordingly. AF would just mess things up... weird.


Jun 24, 2022 at 03:40 PM
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genjy wrote:
You don't use AF for focus stacking though... do you? I use film-era manual lenses (usually a Canon FD 50 3.5 macro) and turn the focus ring or move the rail accordingly. AF would just mess things up... weird.


Most of the current Fuji cameras have built-in focus stacking using the AF system... not weird at all.



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Oh I see. It's in my X-T4 as focus bracketing.

molson wrote:
Most of the current Fuji cameras have built-in focus stacking using the AF system... not weird at all.




Jun 24, 2022 at 04:35 PM
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Michael Everet wrote:
I am looking for an alternative to the 80mm macro. Need AF for focus stacking, and want something smaller than the 80. Is the 60mm macro any good? And would it take extension tubes to get down to 1:1? Anything in 3rd-party that will give AF?


The 60mm f/2.4 macro is sort of OK, and could be better than that depending on your needs.

As a non-macro its optical performance is excellent. The only real downside is that it has rather slow AF.

As a macro, it isn't ideal. It doesn't focus as closely (e.g. produce as large an image of the subject) as a real macro like the 80mm f/2.8. I'd prefer to describe it as a "close focusing" lens more than as a macro. If that is OK for your purpose, it could work fine... but it is a step down from the 80mm macro.



Jun 24, 2022 at 05:20 PM
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Thanks everyone. It looks like the Zeiss Touit 50 might be a good choice.


Jun 24, 2022 at 07:49 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Alternative AF macro


The Touit 50mm and Fuji 60mm are the most sensible options.

Just for completeness: with a Fringer EF-FX adapter you could also use the EF-S 35mm, EF-S 60mm, Sigma 70mm macro lenses. They are all officially supported by the adapter, but I'm not sure how well the automatic focus stacking works with the adapter. Unless you already own the adapter anyway or want to use other EF lenses, it would also be quite expensive and likely makes little sense.

The Laowa 65mm is probably the best bang for the buck macro lens for Fuji, but doesn't have AF.



Jun 25, 2022 at 12:55 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Alternative AF macro


Look at Fuji vs Fuji, they test 60vs56vs50, 50 was better than 60 at close up. Just need some extension tubes.

Gerry



Jun 25, 2022 at 03:59 AM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
The 60mm f/2.4 macro is sort of OK, and could be better than that depending on your needs.

As a non-macro its optical performance is excellent. The only real downside is that it has rather slow AF.

As a macro, it isn't ideal. It doesn't focus as closely (e.g. produce as large an image of the subject) as a real macro like the 80mm f/2.8. I'd prefer to describe it as a "close focusing" lens more than as a macro. If that is OK for your purpose, it could work fine... but it is a step down from the 80mm macro.


Yeah, I'm replying to myself. That 60mm f/2.4 will make you do things like that. Here's why:

The Fujifilm 60mm lens is not a "bad" lens, it just has a particular package of unusual qualities that don't exactly fit the usual expectations of a "macro" lens. Depending on what you are looking for and how you would use it, the lens could be the wrong thing or it could be exactly the right thing.

If you need "close focus," but not necessarily the "closest possible focus," the lens can work quite well. As pretty much everyone agrees, the lens is optically excellent. This makes it quite suitable for certain situations. For example, my wife's photography focuses on macro, most often plants and flowers photographed very closely as abstracts of shape and color more than as literal reproductions. For much of this work she uses more traditional macro lenses a Canon 100mm f/2.8L on a full frame system or she "borrows" my 80mm f/2.8 Fujifilm lens occasionally.

But a lot of her photography is done handheld and while wandering around. For this she prefers to use a smaller Fujifilm camera, and she often takes the 60mm as her only lens, or perhaps just that and the 27mm f/2.8. The 60mm works as a 90mm equivalent long lens, but it also works fine for many of the floral/plant subjects that she photographs while on these walks.

So, if the latter (close up but not at the close edge of potential distance) is what you are after and if small size with good optical quality is important, it could be an almost ideal lens. (I'm still not a fan of its relatively lazy AF.)

But... if the work you do pushes the 80mm f/2.8 to its close distance limits... the 60mm is going to come up a bit short.

Dan



Jun 25, 2022 at 09:55 AM







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