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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

I like bringing out my 5D + nifty 50 as a walkaround machine. It's big and chunky and slow, but I think of it like a film slr without having to pay for film development and scanning. The screen is basically worthless, so I take pictures with the OVF and don't know how they turned out until I "develop" them later at my computer. It slows me down and I get a lot of joy from the images I can make with it.

Funnily enough, I've found when shooting the Gen Y crowd (female singers especially), they want a super lo-fi, soft look that's trendy right now, and the 5D delivers that way better than my razer sharp a7IV and lenses can

May 26, 2022 at 11:04 AM

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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

High ISO is lower on the 5D, only having a setting up to 3200, but 3200 very high, compared to film. Not sure if I could get it up to 6400 or not though.

Hard to believe it's 9ver 2 stops better than 40D, but I remember thinking a few 1600 and 3200 photos looked cleaner than 800 on aps. So it might have banding issues etc vs later bodies , even 18mp aps, but I don't think of it as having high noise. 800 probably my most used on early aps.

Even the Rebel XT had great color. Maybe I'll get around to posting, but the 5D certainly isn't deficient in this regard. If I get another I'd like to try ISO 1600+ more.

May 26, 2022 at 10:16 PM

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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

Thought I would do a quick comparison between the 5D and 135L and the A7RIII and the 135GM. Not bad for well under $1000 used.

May 27, 2022 at 02:11 PM

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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

campy wrote:
Thought I would do a quick comparison between the 5D and 135L and the A7RIII and the 135GM. Not bad for well under $1000 used.

You're doing a nice job of talking me into a 5D. Yes, I'm sure the A7rIII color cast can be corrected for if needed. I suppose the green is advantageous for some things. And it's sharper.

But the 5D photo looks better.

May 29, 2022 at 12:03 PM

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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

campy wrote:
Thought I would do a quick comparison between the 5D and 135L and the A7RIII and the 135GM. Not bad for well under $1000 used.

I took a similar photo with my 5D years ago. Its a good sensor! I believe this was with the EF 100mm macro (not the L - the old school).

-Brian

Pink Flower Macro 1 small by bbasiaga, on Flickr

May 29, 2022 at 12:21 PM

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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

AmbientMike wrote:
You're doing a nice job of talking me into a 5D. Yes, I'm sure the A7rIII color cast can be corrected for if needed. I suppose the green is advantageous for some things. And it's sharper.

But the 5D photo looks better.

I bought my 5D for $200 about 3 years ago. I can take it to the beach and not worry about it, but I still have to worry about my lenses. I bet the 35 f2 IS and the 100mm f2 would make a nice cheap kit for the beach. I have the 24-70 L II and the 135 L so I still have to be careful.

May 30, 2022 at 07:22 AM

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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

I've been preserving images of my family, travels, and everything else that captured my attention digitally for nearly twenty years. From granddaughter's first trip to Tahiti as an infant through her college graduation next month. I bought the 5D and 24-105 in 2006 and my images were lifted to a new level. The 10D + 17-40 was ok and recent post processing software has done wonders, but the 5D really realized the potential for digital photography. Photoshop Elements was all I ever needed until the 7D pushed me to learn serious noise reduction and PP. I'm still using the same 24-105 on my 5D4 which is easier and more capable but all of my 5Ds have been excellent. I'll give a nod to the 10D, 40D, and 80D which in combination with the 100-400s have captured awesome images as well. Images from my Galapagos 5D + 10D trip still look excellent next to those from my 5D4 + 80D Kenya/Tanzania trip.

My original 5D is still going strong in the hands of a friend who works and travels for the San Diego Zoo. She has never felt the need to upgrade to each new model as I have.

May 30, 2022 at 11:33 AM

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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

campy wrote:
I bought my 5D for $200 about 3 years ago. I can take it to the beach and not worry about it, but I still have to worry about my lenses. I bet the 35 f2 IS and the 100mm f2 would make a nice cheap kit for the beach. I have the 24-70 L II and the 135 L so I still have to be careful.

$200!! I had corrosion on mine after the Gulf IIRC, S. Cal or Maine temps aren't as high so I might not be too concerned. The Gulf is kind of on different level. And I lost mine to water droplets, but you don't want any of those at the beach anyway. You should really get nice stuff using that glass. Had 17-35 Sigma, sometimes 50/1.8, & I believe a 75-300 Tamron that's good to 200mm or so, also pretty inexpensive. Potentially really good, maybe more f/8 but on the beach might be pretty attainable, especially if it is sunny

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May 30, 2022 at 12:00 PM

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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

AmbientMike wrote:
High ISO is lower on the 5D, only having a setting up to 3200, but 3200 very high, compared to film. Not sure if I could get it up to 6400 or not though.

Hard to believe it's 9ver 2 stops better than 40D, but I remember thinking a few 1600 and 3200 photos looked cleaner than 800 on aps. So it might have banding issues etc vs later bodies , even 18mp aps, but I don't think of it as having high noise. 800 probably my most used on early aps.

Even the Rebel XT had great color. Maybe I'll...Show more →

I noticed the original 5D could bring up sky noise even at low ISO if I used dehaze too strongly. Using Photoshop's old selection tools to select the sky and a bit of blur solved the issue. I bet the newer select sky and de-noise functions would fix this pretty quick. I should go back and reprocess some of those images. Or maybe not, the versions I have look pretty good.

May 30, 2022 at 12:14 PM

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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

Jeff Nolten wrote:
I noticed the original 5D could bring up sky noise even at low ISO if I used dehaze too strongly. Using Photoshop's old selection tools to select the sky and a bit of blur solved the issue. I bet the newer select sky and de-noise functions would fix this pretty quick. I should go back and reprocess some of those images. Or maybe not, the versions I have look pretty good.

So that must be how people got noise at low ISO on the 5D. Couldn't figure out what, on earth, they were talking about. Maybe just more overly picky FM, I thought. Must have brought it out in pp. I didn't know enough about pp, at the time, to have that issue

But even the original 6mp rebel beat film at 1600. 3200 pretty insane in 2005.

May 30, 2022 at 01:12 PM

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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

Yea, I like my skies blue.

And just PS Elements in those days which would convert raw but without much raw processing. Might even have been before the addition of dehaze and I was using other means to bring down sky brightness. The Sierras just don't look right without the blues I'd see when shooting.

5D images handle much better in recent versions of Lightroom. And I've learned a lot since those days.

ISO 1600?

I would occasionally use Kodachrome 200 but found that too noisy. It was usually Kodachorme 64 for me.

Digital has been such a revolution. I've been photocopying Kodachrome slides and it takes every bit of post processing trickery to bring them up to snuff. And the poor dynamic range ...

May 30, 2022 at 02:22 PM

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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

Jeff Nolten wrote:
Yea, I like my skies blue.

5D images handle much better in recent versions of Lightroom. And I've learned a lot since those days.

ISO 1600?

I would occasionally use Kodachrome 200 but found that too noisy. It was usually Kodachorme 64 for me.

Digital has been...Show more →

On the original 5D, which I mostly used for landscape photography, I would always avoid raising the ISO past the ISO 100 low level due to the more rapid onset of noise with higher ISOs. I would occasionally go to 200 and very rarely go to 400, but I don't think I ever shot it higher than than.

The next 5D I had was the 5DII. On that camera I didn't give a second thought about shooting at 200 — I'd use 100 or 200 interchangeably depending on what worked best for the shot. I'd push to 400 without too much worry, and 800 wasn't out of the question either in a few cases. It was unusual to go above that though. (I may have on a few occasions for photography on the street at night in urban areas when I wasn't using a tripod and the like.)

The next in the line that I had (and still have) was the 5DsR. The increase in usable ISO wasn't as dramatic as that of the 5DIV, but it was real. Again the distinction between 100 and 200 is pretty meaningless, and I'll shoot 400 without pause. I've even done landscapes at 400 with fine results. I use this camera for bird photography, too, and I regularly shoot that a 1600 in low light and will go to 3200 with confidence that I can make the result quite good in post. I've gone higher.

Dan

May 30, 2022 at 03:03 PM

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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

Jeff Nolten wrote:
Yea, I like my skies blue.

5D images handle much better in recent versions of Lightroom. And I've learned a lot since those days.

ISO 1600?

I would occasionally use Kodachrome 200 but found that too noisy. It was usually Kodachorme 64 for me.

Digital has been...Show more →

DR? On slides?

I was literally just using 200 or less film probably 95%+ of the time. Slides mostly fujichrome 100, you shot the fast 200 speed

(I'm not kidding, for anyone else out there, kodachrome 200 fast slide film, for outdoor photography. Or push the Fuji a stop) 1600 print available I shot some, but not much. 3200 available but honestly even 100 and 200 grainy. Hard to believe anyone on here would use 3200 print, even compared to the 5D at 3200

Fuji had good 800 speed print, towards the end of film. But harder to shoot and get good results it seemed, probably cost more , maybe harder to find, etc. Pretty easy to adjust to 800 on aps digital being good though. Limiting yourself to 100 and 200 on the 5D, or even the 30D, makes little or no sense

May 30, 2022 at 05:26 PM

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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

gdanmitchell wrote:
On the original 5D, which I mostly used for landscape photography, I would always avoid raising the ISO past the ISO 100 low level due to the more rapid onset of noise with higher ISOs. I would occasionally go to 200 and very rarely go to 400, but I don't think I ever shot it higher than than. ...

Went back an looked through a few of those images. Most of my 5D Calif NP landscapes were shot hand held at ISO 200, f8, with polarizer to keep my shutter speed above 1/100. Some shots needed ISO 400. Many had no luminance noise reduction applied. Applying NR of 15/50/50 cleared them nicely with my current setup. While I hadn't used the dehaze, I had pushed clarity and this enhanced noise. Maybe I dissed the 5D's noise too much.

In my LR library I only had 55 shots at ISO 3200. Most ISO 1600 were used for wildlife with the original 100-400. I edited an ISO 1600 shot of a Tahiti post sunset shot and it had quite a bit of sky noise even after LR NR. However, running the image through Topaz DeNoise using Low Light Auto settings cleaned it perfectly and enhanced the sharpness a bit. I rarely have to use this with my recent 5D#s but its been very effective for ISO 800 and above on my APS-C bodies, mostly used for wildlife with longer lenses. Now I'll freely use ISO 3200 and even 6400 if necessary on my 90D and M6II.

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DR? On slides?

I know, I know. But really, I've resurrected some quite useable images that look good on 5K and 4K displays. Again Topaz works miracles and no I don't work for them.

May 30, 2022 at 05:45 PM

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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

quick shift pano's w the 17ts were fun. As far as other lens the 5D didn't hold correction data either. It was just a black box w a shutter button.

May 30, 2022 at 08:57 PM

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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

This is 5D and 85L i

I loved that thing and still remember the day I bought it

Jun 03, 2022 at 08:47 PM

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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

I remember mine well

Jim

Jun 05, 2022 at 07:50 AM

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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

TeamSpeed wrote:
Yes the noise was very uniform on that camera and would clean up. It took about 5 years maybe for other cameras, including APS-C to get to that kind of quality in ISO 3200 images.

ISO 3200 wasn't a native ISO either, if I remember, it was a digitally pushed ISO, I think the 5D maxed out at 1600 with analog ISO gain. I might be remembering incorrectly though.

Some of the green noise was a bit clumpy however depending on the light with the 5D at 3200.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-JhfHxmv/0/O/i-JhfHxmv.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-MrcMzPV/0/O/i-MrcMzPV.jpg

With the 5D selling for around $225, Imagine how those high ISO 3200 RAW images would look using Topaz Denoise AI, or even reworking old files

Jim

Jun 05, 2022 at 11:14 AM

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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

Jun 08, 2022 at 08:50 AM

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p.2 #20 · p.2 #20 · pulled 5D off the shelf for 1st time in 2022. it's still WOW!

Not to beat a dead horse, but the 5D did produce. When I look at some of the pics I shot 8 or 10 yrs ago, even with a 50 1.8 II, or Tamron 70-200 2.8 VC, there is something about that camera. Maybe because it only had 12MP or perhaps, no AA filter. It was definitely something.
Jim

Jun 15, 2022 at 09:31 PM

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