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61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked

  
 
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Immortal wrote:
People who tested it already say that IBIS still in reality is good up to 3.5 stops at very best. So no real upgrade here.

Idk the lack of real progress is the big dissapointment for me.

Slow read out speed(it's like slower than RIII) at this price point is kinda meh. Thou i understand, this is how business work, can't be one camera for all.


This has always been my annoyance with Sony releases. They are extremely timid when they iterate (see R2>R5 and A9>A9ii especially).

They seem to prioritize reusing old parts where they can, and they have a tendency to frankenstein physical features leading to many one-off bodies that have a mish-mash of physical controls vs unified generation of varying internal abilities.

It's sort of like the A1 showing up with the dire rear LCD when it should have been standardized with the better flippy screen from the A7Siii and A74. It was such a boneheaded choice that I determined that although the A1 checked literally every other box for me, I'd never buy for that reason alone.

Sony should be lauded for adding focus stacking and bulb...however, they should have done it YEARS ago and only did just now because they are suddenly feeling pressure from the flagship of one of the big 3. It reminds of me of Sony not updating the R3 firmware to support a red AF box when there was literally no technical reason for it. They saved it as an asinine reason to upgrade to the R4.

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Oct 26, 2022 at 09:29 AM
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nicephore wrote:
Gerald Undone has tested it and found it was improved in video for Telephoto.
In other scenari, he didn't notice any improvement.


his vlogging test was abnormally stable for a sony, seemed like olympus or panasonic level to me, a notch above current sony's. No warping either



Oct 26, 2022 at 09:31 AM
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RoamingScott wrote:
It's sort of like the A1 showing up with the dire rear LCD when it should have been standardized with the better flippy screen from the A7Siii and A74. It was such a boneheaded choice that I determined that although the A1 checked literally every other box for me, I'd never buy for that reason alone.


Except that for a lot of people that would be a downgrade.
Only the RV solution is truly better.




Oct 26, 2022 at 09:59 AM
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Except that for a lot of people that would be a downgrade.
Only the RV solution is truly better.



It can't get much worse than the A1 screen with one way tilt, bad touch, bad res, etc.



Oct 26, 2022 at 10:07 AM
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RoamingScott wrote:
It can't get much worse than the A1 screen with one way tilt, bad touch, bad res, etc.


It can -> you can't tilt without extending it sideways .



Oct 26, 2022 at 10:09 AM
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Since I don't shoot video, and hate touch screen interfaces, I don't use the rear screen for much when shooting. I even prefer reviewing images through the EVF where light is better managed. So for me the rear screen features are just short of meaningless. I could do without one at all most times.

I understand for others it may be important.



Oct 26, 2022 at 10:23 AM
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j4nu wrote:
It can -> you can't tilt without extending it sideways .


You can with the A7RV



Oct 26, 2022 at 10:31 AM
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1bwana1 wrote:
Since I don't shoot video, and hate touch screen interfaces, I don't use the rear screen for much when shooting. I even prefer reviewing images through the EVF where light is better managed. So for me the rear screen features are just short of meaningless. I could do without one at all most times.

I understand for others it may be important.


Focusing landscape shots using the rear LCD is a big thing for me. Love being able to standup and look down onto the screen while focusing. Looking through the viewfinder while wearing glasses is challenging at times. Articulating both horizontally and vertically is a big plus as many of my shots are in portrait orientation.



Oct 26, 2022 at 10:33 AM
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1bwana1 wrote:
Since I don't shoot video, and hate touch screen interfaces, I don't use the rear screen for much when shooting. I even prefer reviewing images through the EVF where light is better managed. So for me the rear screen features are just short of meaningless. I could do without one at all most times.

I understand for others it may be important.


I take a fair number of landscape images at thigh/knee/shin height, so short of lying in the sand or dirt a flip lcd is a godsend, and this version allowing it's use in vertical is great. When I shot Canon 1Ds bodies I used the 90 degree magnifier which could be rotated for vertical orientation. But as you say everyone has different needs,



Oct 26, 2022 at 10:35 AM
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What those 2 said!


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Funny you mentioned that as that was one of the main reasons I moved away from Sony after many many years using their cameras.
LiveShots wrote:
Real-time pupil AF (person) - I guess this means it wonít focus on eye-lashes any more. I wonder if they can add that as a firmware update to the α1?




Oct 26, 2022 at 07:46 PM
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RoamingScott wrote:
This has always been my annoyance with Sony releases. They are extremely timid when they iterate (see R2>R5 and A9>A9ii especially).

They seem to prioritize reusing old parts where they can, and they have a tendency to frankenstein physical features leading to many one-off bodies that have a mish-mash of physical controls vs unified generation of varying internal abilities.

It's sort of like the A1 showing up with the dire rear LCD when it should have been standardized with the better flippy screen from the A7Siii and A74. It was such a boneheaded choice that I determined that although the A1 checked
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I agree with most of this.

(I personally hate the flippy screens so I'm happy about what Sony did with the RV now.
That's personal taste though.)

Finally we have focus bracketing and in-camera bulb timing, but those features could've (should've) been implemented years ago with firmware updates (Nikon, Canon, Fuji,... all offer this for years now).
The fact that the flagship A1 doesn't even have these functions reminds me why I don't like Sony as a company.
They often keep fairly simple software functionality for new cameras.

I'm mostly curious about the IBIS improvements in the RV now.
For my A7RIII Sony claims 5 stops of IBIS, which must be a bad joke. I don't find the IBIS on my RIII very good or reliable.
When using something like a Canon R5 you notice how big of a difference it really is.
I hope the IBIS in the A7RV is significantly better than my RIII.



Oct 27, 2022 at 01:22 AM
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Jochenb wrote:
I agree with most of this.

(I personally hate the flippy screens so I'm happy about what Sony did with the RV now.
That's personal taste though.)

Finally we have focus bracketing and in-camera bulb timing, but those features could've (should've) been implemented years ago with firmware updates (Nikon, Canon, Fuji,... all offer this for years now).
The fact that the flagship A1 doesn't even have these functions reminds me why I don't like Sony as a company.
They often keep fairly simple software functionality for new cameras.

I'm mostly curious about the IBIS improvements in the RV now.
For my A7RIII
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It wouldn't take much for any camera's IBIS to best the Riii's.



Oct 27, 2022 at 06:57 AM
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Still shooting a Nikon D750 and thinking about getting into the Sony system since I would be purchasing new lenses anyways. Looking to go with this or a used A1.

I am leaning towards the A1, but I do like the IBIS and focus breathing comp and focus bracketing included in this camera. The flippy screen seems like a nice to have but not needed. From what I have read the AF should be more than good enough for me from either camera as they are both vastly superior to the D750. The burst rate on the A7r V is not great, but on par with the D750 which suits me fine for the most part, but am impressed with what a stacked sensor can do in regards to minimizing rolling shutter and achieving fast burst rates.

How is Sony about pushing new features such as focus breathing comp or focus bracketing into their flagships? Are there any other major differences between these models I should be considering?

I am mainly interested in shooting wildlife and landscapes.



Nov 27, 2022 at 11:30 PM
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student42 wrote:
Still shooting a Nikon D750 and thinking about getting into the Sony system since I would be purchasing new lenses anyways. Looking to go with this or a used A1.

I am leaning towards the A1, but I do like the IBIS and focus breathing comp and focus bracketing included in this camera. The flippy screen seems like a nice to have but not needed. From what I have read the AF should be more than good enough for me from either camera as they are both vastly superior to the D750. The burst rate on the A7r V is
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With the A1, you are getting Sony's best sensor-tech in terms of read-out speed, FPS, etc + better video. ISO perf on 45mp sensor will be better than the (older) 61mp.

So if you by wildlife means shooting birds-in-flight, then the A1 would be a better choice. For everything else, including landscape, I'd take the A7R5 and put the saved $2,500 towards lenses.



Nov 28, 2022 at 08:09 AM
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Immortal wrote:
People who tested it already say that IBIS still in reality is good up to 3.5 stops at very best. So no real upgrade here.

Idk the lack of real progress is the big dissapointment for me.

Slow read out speed(it's like slower than RIII) at this price point is kinda meh. Thou i understand, this is how business work, can't be one camera for all.


Who are "these people" that say it's 3.5?



Nov 28, 2022 at 03:55 PM
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nhsonyshooter wrote:
Who are "these people" that say it's 3.5?


People who can't afford to buy one, mostly...



Nov 28, 2022 at 04:11 PM
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I will admit I was not really thinking about buying this camera. Even before the specs came out. I mean camera's in general have become so good it's really nit picky stuff that that they can even do to these camera's to make them more attractive. The A7riv is a fantastic tool as it is. If you can't take good pictures with that then time for a new hobby. If they had gone the A7iv route with the stupid flip screen only that would have instantly killed it for me. But I guess Sony does listen as they made a good solution for everyone. The A7RV features that persuaded me are the IBIS, AF, rear LCD, EVF, bulb, etc... None of them are critical to me but as a whole it made the whole package worth the upgrade to me. I don't need the speed. Had the A9 and A1 and although they are fantastic, I just don't need the speed. Would rather have the MP for what and how I shoot. Could Sony just make 1 camera and put everything into it. Sure, but that is just not how businesses works. Canon and Nikon could do the same thing, and don't. I do think Sony should let the A9 series die off at this point. A7siii, A7c, A7iv, A7rV, A1 just makes sense. Intentionally handicapping a possible A9iii just to squeeze another body in the line up I think is a bad move. Just update the Aii and be done with it. Oh and then update the A7C ii with a 61mp sensor Sony and I will buy that as well.


Nov 28, 2022 at 04:18 PM
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The A9 series still has a place in the line up, sports shooters in particular who donít need or want 50mp but would most likely appreciate 35fps and above uncompressed RAW at 24mp is a market that Sony canít ignore. They need a body that competes with the Canon R3.

nhsonyshooter wrote:
I will admit I was not really thinking about buying this camera. Even before the specs came out. I mean camera's in general have become so good it's really nit picky stuff that that they can even do to these camera's to make them more attractive. The A7riv is a fantastic tool as it is. If you can't take good pictures with that then time for a new hobby. If they had gone the A7iv route with the stupid flip screen only that would have instantly killed it for me. But I guess Sony does listen as they made a
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Nov 29, 2022 at 06:21 AM
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I'm not sure there is a need for an A9III and an A1(2). If you shoot the A1 in Medium Raw mode, don't you essentially get A9 mpx? I don't see how Sony is going to market a new A9 when the A1 already exist and I think there is an argument to be made that the A1 is kind of an A9 replacement already.


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