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Archive 2022 · Z 70-200 + 2X TC vs Z 100-400?

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Z 70-200 + 2X TC vs Z 100-400?


I currently have Z7II and have been searching for 100-400 for wildlife/birding but lens is no where to be found.

So I am wondering would it make more sense to go with Z 70-200/f2.8 + 2X TC (60-70% use) which can give non extendable 400mm/f5.6 and additional flexibility of having 70-200/f2.8 for general landscape/portraits (10-15% use). I am bit tempted with ongoing $300 discount on 70-200mm

On the same note I have 800mm PF on order (God knows when it will arrive) so whenever it comes, my final kit would be 24-70/f4, 70-200/f2.8 + 2X TC or 100-400 and 800mm pf

So with this context would it make sense to go for 70-200 and TC or it’s better to wait and get 100-400? How much quality degradation with TC would be there for a non pro hobbyist?



May 16, 2022 at 05:35 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Z 70-200 + 2X TC vs Z 100-400?


70-200 with a 2x TC is a tad less sharp and does not focus as fast as 100-400 (I use 70-200 with 1.4x TC and it's a wonderful 100-280 F4 lens). I'd wait for 200-600 for birding.


May 16, 2022 at 05:42 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Z 70-200 + 2X TC vs Z 100-400?


Thank you and really thinking about that as well, but with no news/rumor about it’s announcement and lack of availability of lenses like 100-400 I am bit worried if I may need to wait till early/mid next year for 200-600 :-(

lukemeup wrote:
70-200 with a 2x TC is a tad less sharp and does not focus as fast as 100-400 (I use 70-200 with 1.4x TC and it's a wonderful 100-280 F4 lens). I'd wait for 200-600 for birding.





May 16, 2022 at 05:52 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Z 70-200 + 2X TC vs Z 100-400?


It's all about choices / trade offs. From experience 400mm can be a bit too short for birding.

You can go about it 2 ways:
- 70-200 + 2x TC (live with it for now) & add 200-600 later (it will give you a 3 lens combo that covers your uses pretty well from 70mm to 800mm)
- 100-400 + 1.4 TC (gives you 560 F8 for birding & should pair nicely with the 800).

Personally since I already have 70-200 + 1.4 TC and 800 is on order I'll either go with 200-600 or 400PF once they're released.



May 16, 2022 at 06:23 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Z 70-200 + 2X TC vs Z 100-400?


[EDIT: oops, I meant to post this in akul's thread, he has a roughly similar topic so maybe this reply is still useful to leave here…]

I’ve used the Nikon F 70-200/2.8E FL as my main landscape lens for years and it's optically spectacular, not very far behind the slightly better Z mount version. The problem I had was 200mm was often too short for the kind of images I like to compose, so I had to hassle with adding and removing the 1.4x, 1.7x, or 2x converters. Besides the fact that these reduced the optical quality (the 1.4x not much, the 2x a lot), it interrupted my flow of seeing and creating just enough to be bothersome. I tried a copy of the F 80-400mm to solve this but it was optically too much of a compromise compared to the spectacular 70-200E FL.

So when Nikon released the Z 100-400mm I figured it might be my dream solution, and shooting it for extensive landscapes the past 4 months it has proven to be what I desired. I’m sure the Z 70-200 is a bit sharper when not stopped down to typical landscape apertures, and of course you have more light gathering for non-landscape low light shooting, so the f/2.8 zoom is the right tool for many. And the Z 70-200 uses the superior new 1.4x and 2x and folks like Ricci have shown in tests the excellent IQ with those. But for landscape use where I love tight compositions and find up to 400mm useful, I would not want to go back to hassling with converters on and off.

The 100-400mm is definitely worth the wait IMO. I also own the F 70-300E and it is a killer lens on the Z7 and Z9, definitely worth considering as a temporary fill-in or great backup while you wait for the 100-400. Also, from what I read you may actually be able to snag a 100-400 before your trip if you call around to smaller shops on the Nikon Pro dealer pdf list.

Edited on May 17, 2022 at 02:26 PM · View previous versions



May 17, 2022 at 11:00 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Z 70-200 + 2X TC vs Z 100-400?


Thank you folks. This has been very helpful. I will continue my search for 100-400 and hopefully will get it sooner than later


May 17, 2022 at 12:07 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Z 70-200 + 2X TC vs Z 100-400?


I originally bought the 70-200 with both teleconverters thinking that way I really wouldn’t need the 100-400 and I had no plans on buying it, that was until I saw the quality of the photos everyone was getting from it. I ended up buying it too and still have the 70-200 & both teleconverters. It gives me the maximum flexibility to use either lens alone or with a teleconverter. But if I had to choose one, I’d probably go with the 100-400 and both teleconverters, just because I’m often shooting in the 200-500mm range. Try calling around to some smaller camera shops, that’s how I found my 100-400.


May 17, 2022 at 02:07 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Z 70-200 + 2X TC vs Z 100-400?


There was one for sale on here a few hours ago. It has sold already though. It went fast. I lucked out and found one local on FB marketplace a few days ago.

Sagar wrote:
Thank you folks. This has been very helpful. I will continue my search for 100-400 and hopefully will get it sooner than later




May 17, 2022 at 02:18 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Z 70-200 + 2X TC vs Z 100-400?


I rented a 70-200 S and was blown away by it’s native draw and with 1.4xTC. But I found it noticeably less impactful with the 2x TC. Since I often want to shoot landscapes and close ups above 300mm I returned the lens.

Bought the 100-400 S as soon as I could snag one. It draws so well. A lot of magic near close focus limits. Loses a tiny bit of pop with the 1.4TC, but results are quite solid. This is a great birding lens if you can get close to subjects. It is too short if you cannot. I love it for close ups, landscape, and approachable wildlife. It is genuinely a pro grade lens that fully warrants its S-line design.



May 17, 2022 at 05:30 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Z 70-200 + 2X TC vs Z 100-400?


Yes I think I bought that one


eorlando wrote:
There was one for sale on here a few hours ago. It has sold already though. It went fast. I lucked out and found one local on FB marketplace a few days ago.




May 17, 2022 at 07:19 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Z 70-200 + 2X TC vs Z 100-400?


Oh nice!!! I think you will like it. I posted some baseball photos in the 100-400 thread from my first outing with it. Love it so far!!! Enjoy.

Sagar wrote:
Yes I think I bought that one





May 17, 2022 at 07:53 PM





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