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exdeejjjaaaa
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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Canon R7


Fuji X-T4 already shoots 20 FPS at full 26MP resolution.

R5 shoots 90-mp (dual pixel raw) @ 12-fps in 13-bit mode with a non stacked sensor ... in X-T4 terms that will be 45 fps (12bit 26mp raw) = ( 12 fps * 90 mp * 13bit ) / ( 26mp * 12 bit ) .. or my bad... it seems dual pixel raw limits FPS - still R5 > 20 fps in X-T4 terms (20 fps * 45mp * 12 bit) / (26mp * 12bit) = 34+ fps
May 10, 2022 at 05:08 PM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Canon R7


I look forward to seeing the details, and whether it makes sense for me to swap my R6 for the R7 for wildlife...to go alongside my R5.


May 10, 2022 at 10:40 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Canon R7


Canon Rumors says they have confirmed the following......

32.5mp APS-C Dual Pixel CMOS AF
15-30fps (mechanical/electronic)
2x UHS-II supported
4K @ 60/50fps (NTSC/PAL)
1080p @ 120/100fps (NTSC/PAL)
C-Log 3/HDR PQ
In-Body IS
Announcement in June/July 2022

https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-eos-r7-specifications-cr3/
May 11, 2022 at 12:32 AM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Canon R7


https://youtu.be/uei31zr_yng
May 11, 2022 at 12:55 AM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Canon R7


SSISteve wrote:
Yes, but Fuji af is still not up to speed with what Canon offers and I’m a Fuji shooter.



I think you misunderstood me. I was responding to the poster who thought that R7's rumored specs can't be true. I was just saying that given X-T4 already had similar specs two years ago, it seems reasonable for R7 to have these specs or higher.
May 11, 2022 at 01:02 AM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Canon R7


exdeejjjaaaa wrote:
R5 shoots 90-mp (dual pixel raw) @ 12-fps in 13-bit mode with a non stacked sensor ... in X-T4 terms that will be 45 fps (12bit 26mp raw) = ( 12 fps * 90 mp * 13bit ) / ( 26mp * 12 bit ) .. or my bad... it seems dual pixel raw limits FPS - still R5 > 20 fps in X-T4 terms (20 fps * 45mp * 12 bit) / (26mp * 12bit) = 34+ fps



Not sure why we are comparing X-T4 to R5 Again the reference to X-T4 was just to argue that R7's rumored specs are in line with what you should expect from a high-end APS-C body today. (btw X-T4 20 FPS mode is 14-bit as far as i know, its not 12-bit)
May 11, 2022 at 01:47 AM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Canon R7


Both R10 and R7 are now said to be launching in 2 weeks, 24th May.And specs are now confirmed according to CR.

I hope the R7 has a 1.6x faster sensor scan speed than the R5, it would make ES much more usable for fast action. My 500 f/4 II is my only remaining Canon lens, R7 would be a nice way to use it again.
May 11, 2022 at 04:37 AM
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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · Canon R7


mdees88 wrote:
Canon Rumors says they have confirmed the following......

32.5mp APS-C Dual Pixel CMOS AF
15-30fps (mechanical/electronic)
2x UHS-II supported
4K @ 60/50fps (NTSC/PAL)
1080p @ 120/100fps (NTSC/PAL)
C-Log 3/HDR PQ
In-Body IS
Announcement in June/July 2022

https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-eos-r7-specifications-cr3/

Sad to say, no CF Express card slot and with 30fps that could be challenging.
May 11, 2022 at 06:58 AM
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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Canon R7


The SD vs CFExpress isn't really any issue, and many of us would prefer SD cards over the much higher costs of CFExpress along with new readers, etc.

These specs are basically taken from the M6II and if the M series can do it, the R7, should it be real, will certainly be able to do it.
May 11, 2022 at 07:19 AM
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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Canon R7


Alan Kefauver wrote:
Sad to say, no CF Express card slot and with 30fps that could be challenging.

I'm not sure it will be an issue. The M6II has the same and still gets along fine with SD.

The other link in the chain to consider is the buffer. If they match what's in the R5/R6, you'll be able to shoot a long continuous burst and the cards will still clear fast. On the R6, I can get about 12seconds of 20FPS before the buffer fills, that is using v60 SD cards. The buffer will then clear in a few seconds, I would guess 3-5. In real use, I've never come close to holding the shutter down for 12s in a row.

On an R7 with about 50% more MP, we could make the over simplification that you'd get about 66% of the buffer time - or 8 seconds of burst with the same buffer. That's not even back of the envelope math, and just meant to be indicative/relative.

A v90 card may do more than that.

Won't know till we know, but SD certainly have the chance to not be a limitation.

Brian
May 11, 2022 at 07:54 AM
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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Canon R7


Wondering why Canon is continuing to 'announce' new gear when they are not supplying the last two cameras announced (R3/R5c)? At best they are hard to find and are not even available at the Canon online store.
May 11, 2022 at 08:17 AM
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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · Canon R7


Ray Swindle wrote:
Wondering why Canon is continuing to 'announce' new gear when they are not supplying the last two cameras announced (R3/R5c)? At best they are hard to find and are not even available at the Canon online store.

They can't really win either way.

Announce nothing, and the internet says Canon is 'refusing to develop the line' or 'never going to have a replacement for X' or whatever uninformed comments people make.

Announce something, and people chafe at the limited quantities available.

In these unprecedented supply chain times, they picked a lane.

Brian
May 11, 2022 at 09:52 AM
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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · Canon R7


If there is an announcement, it will likely be a "developmental announcement', buying Canon about another year before they have to deliver.
May 11, 2022 at 10:14 AM
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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · Canon R7


if r7 is released at $2000-$2500 and AF is r5 level, r7 + 100-500 is gonna be wildly popular.


May 11, 2022 at 10:20 AM
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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · Canon R7


Whine, whine, whine, and not even officially announced by Canon yet.

I bet 90+% of those who wanted a mirrorless replacement for the 7D2 will be perfectly happy with it.

All the specs so far would suit me just fine. The most important spec for many will be the price.


May 11, 2022 at 10:21 AM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Canon R7


Lack of CFe is quite bad since many users also have R5 and/or R3 bodies and CFe cards. It's another extra expense and logistics hassle requiring two types of cards in the bag.

EBH
May 11, 2022 at 11:58 AM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Canon R7


EB-1 wrote:
Lack of CFe is quite bad since many users also have R5 and/or R3 bodies and CFe cards. It's another extra expense and logistics hassle requiring two types of cards in the bag.

EBH

And it is irrelevant for the many more that own neither an R5 or R3. And the owners of an R5 or R3 will be a very small minority that will purchase an R7. IMO
May 11, 2022 at 01:06 PM
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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · Canon R7


Depends if it can AF? If like the 7DII then, as much as I hate to I will get the R5. I have two Canon lenses I like so here is hoping.
May 11, 2022 at 01:32 PM
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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · Canon R7


This will most likely be a cropped R6. I see the price coming in at between $1999-$2299.
May 11, 2022 at 02:06 PM
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p.2 #20 · p.2 #20 · Canon R7


EB-1 wrote:
Lack of CFe is quite bad since many users also have R5 and/or R3 bodies and CFe cards. It's another extra expense and logistics hassle requiring two types of cards in the bag.

EBH

Yes, real shame that they didn't do one of each. This would allow people with R5 or similar to leverage their CFe cards while people that have a nice stockpile of UHS-II can likewise leverage what they have. With these specs it means buying three or more UHS-II cards and another card reader.

I waited and waited (and waited and ...) for a 7D Mark III/R7 camera but finally made the move on an R5. I don't regret it but, as about 85% - 90% of what I shoot is wildlife, I would consider the R7 as a backup/second camera for wildlife trips (replacing my 7D Mark II). The combo would certainly give a lot of flexibility for reach. The choice of card slots is not a complete show-stopper for me but certainly gives cause for second thought.
May 11, 2022 at 02:08 PM
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