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Official 800PF image and discussion thread

  
 
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p.48 #1 · p.48 #1 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


Rimpson wrote:
Forgot I had more of these speedsters on another card in better light. Same combination Z9 / 800 6.3 w/ 1.4 TC.



That really is well done to get onto those with 1120mm/f8! Are these cropped much? thanks.



Mar 25, 2023 at 05:03 PM
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p.48 #2 · p.48 #2 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


Rimpson wrote:
Thanks for the nice eye candy George, Luke, Bruce, Eric, Lance and others I may have missed.

Before the latest firmware update I had come to the conclusion that the 1.4 on this lens was not going to cut it for action/bif. I am just back from a trip out west and the 800 was a great bird travel lens. The last day I decided to try the 1.4/800 combo on some swallows and I was pleasantly surprised on how well the af and tracking did. For me it seems the latest firmware update actually made a noticeable improvement to an
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I think you may have given them a new name. Speedsters is perfect.

How do you guys keep swallows in the viewfinder? You did say they are heavy crops. So that makes it manageable.

I know you want a smaller Z9 Ricky. Were you not the first person to label it as a "brick"?

Let me ask you this: What would this new two-piece pro-grade mirrorless body need to have for you to bite?

I think it is going to lack enough Z9 features to make a lot of you hang on to that "brick".

After all this time I am close to making the final decision to buying it. But I want to see this upcoming camera.

Take pre-release as an example. I think they will omit it from this new body and I think that is a deal breaker for me.

Your thoughts......






Mar 25, 2023 at 09:09 PM
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p.48 #3 · p.48 #3 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


Thx Robert...I have shot American football for 15 years which helps me find and track subjects. For me
a monopod with articulating head (helps make micro adjustments for tracking) is one of the keys and it is so much easier now for any birds in flight with the no blackout screen and add in 20 FPS along with the Z9 recent firmware (3.1). Having said that I still have a lot of wasted frames for swallows but my keeper rate has increased dramatically from my DSLR days.

All the shots I posted were taken in a few hours the same am. Only a few would be something I would print and that would probably be on 4x6 custom greeting cards. I mainly wanted to post these to show just
how good the Z9 is now. It was good before but it is at another level now. I was shocked at my success rate for the first set since it was cloudy and I was at 1/2000 F9 and required heavy crops....and with the TC. No they are not the cleanest files but a few would be worthy of a custom 4x6 greeting card. When the sky brightened for the second set (with higher ss) it naturally improved AF and tracking and I would get focus locks with the birds larger in the frame.....in a few of the second set there was not much cropping at all compared to what I would normally have to crop for swalllows.

The performance of the 1.4TC / 800 6.3 will secure a place in my kit ..... if I only wanted 800mm I would just shoot a 600 and add a TC and have the low light option of F4.

My Z9's are going nowhere. The rumored camera doesnt sound like my cup of tea but if they release a mirrorless gripped Z900 stacked sensor 30+ MP body then I would part with one of my Z9's as long as the button layout is similar to the Z9. For those that strictly hand hold then the rumored camera may be the ticket as long as it doesnt give up too much compared to the Z9 especially for action shooters. If I didnt shoot action an improved Z7II type camera would suit me.

I know you shoot Loons from a canoe so a smaller form factor would be better for you especially if they ever release the 200-600. I shoot from a kayak also some and a smaller gripped body would be better by allowing grip removal when you wanted to lighten the load. If the right camera is released you should be able to get a used Z9 for a good price. I believe the "Pro Body" Z9 is too much of a "brick" for some and they will welcome a smaller body therefore presenting a buying opportunity for used Z9's.

Nikon has the best lens lineup in my opinion. All they need now is a high performance smaller form factor body whether it is "D850" or "D500" style. I hope it is both

Interesting times! A great time to be a photographer ! I am thankful I am still "clicking".... and silently



Mar 26, 2023 at 08:01 AM
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p.48 #4 · p.48 #4 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


Thanks Alistair1.

The first set was cropped heavily and the second set with brighter conditions were much bigger in the frame and a few were not cropped much at all relatively speaking as far as swallows are concerned.

All shot with the the 1.4 TC AT 1120mm F9.

Prior to the 3.1 firmware update this combo under performed for BIF in my experience.

Having said that the air quality will be very important as to when this combination is usable.



Mar 26, 2023 at 08:11 AM
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