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Rimpson wrote:
Forgot I had more of these speedsters on another card in better light. Same combination Z9 / 800 6.3 w/ 1.4 TC.



That really is well done to get onto those with 1120mm/f8! Are these cropped much? thanks.



Mar 25, 2023 at 05:03 PM
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p.48 #2 · p.48 #2 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


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Thanks for the nice eye candy George, Luke, Bruce, Eric, Lance and others I may have missed.

Before the latest firmware update I had come to the conclusion that the 1.4 on this lens was not going to cut it for action/bif. I am just back from a trip out west and the 800 was a great bird travel lens. The last day I decided to try the 1.4/800 combo on some swallows and I was pleasantly surprised on how well the af and tracking did. For me it seems the latest firmware update actually made a noticeable improvement to an
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I think you may have given them a new name. Speedsters is perfect.

How do you guys keep swallows in the viewfinder? You did say they are heavy crops. So that makes it manageable.

I know you want a smaller Z9 Ricky. Were you not the first person to label it as a "brick"?

Let me ask you this: What would this new two-piece pro-grade mirrorless body need to have for you to bite?

I think it is going to lack enough Z9 features to make a lot of you hang on to that "brick".

After all this time I am close to making the final decision to buying it. But I want to see this upcoming camera.

Take pre-release as an example. I think they will omit it from this new body and I think that is a deal breaker for me.

Your thoughts......






Mar 25, 2023 at 09:09 PM
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p.48 #3 · p.48 #3 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


Thx Robert...I have shot American football for 15 years which helps me find and track subjects. For me
a monopod with articulating head (helps make micro adjustments for tracking) is one of the keys and it is so much easier now for any birds in flight with the no blackout screen and add in 20 FPS along with the Z9 recent firmware (3.1). Having said that I still have a lot of wasted frames for swallows but my keeper rate has increased dramatically from my DSLR days.

All the shots I posted were taken in a few hours the same am. Only a few would be something I would print and that would probably be on 4x6 custom greeting cards. I mainly wanted to post these to show just
how good the Z9 is now. It was good before but it is at another level now. I was shocked at my success rate for the first set since it was cloudy and I was at 1/2000 F9 and required heavy crops....and with the TC. No they are not the cleanest files but a few would be worthy of a custom 4x6 greeting card. When the sky brightened for the second set (with higher ss) it naturally improved AF and tracking and I would get focus locks with the birds larger in the frame.....in a few of the second set there was not much cropping at all compared to what I would normally have to crop for swalllows.

The performance of the 1.4TC / 800 6.3 will secure a place in my kit ..... if I only wanted 800mm I would just shoot a 600 and add a TC and have the low light option of F4.

My Z9's are going nowhere. The rumored camera doesnt sound like my cup of tea but if they release a mirrorless gripped Z900 stacked sensor 30+ MP body then I would part with one of my Z9's as long as the button layout is similar to the Z9. For those that strictly hand hold then the rumored camera may be the ticket as long as it doesnt give up too much compared to the Z9 especially for action shooters. If I didnt shoot action an improved Z7II type camera would suit me.

I know you shoot Loons from a canoe so a smaller form factor would be better for you especially if they ever release the 200-600. I shoot from a kayak also some and a smaller gripped body would be better by allowing grip removal when you wanted to lighten the load. If the right camera is released you should be able to get a used Z9 for a good price. I believe the "Pro Body" Z9 is too much of a "brick" for some and they will welcome a smaller body therefore presenting a buying opportunity for used Z9's.

Nikon has the best lens lineup in my opinion. All they need now is a high performance smaller form factor body whether it is "D850" or "D500" style. I hope it is both

Interesting times! A great time to be a photographer ! I am thankful I am still "clicking".... and silently



Mar 26, 2023 at 08:01 AM
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p.48 #4 · p.48 #4 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


Thanks Alistair1.

The first set was cropped heavily and the second set with brighter conditions were much bigger in the frame and a few were not cropped much at all relatively speaking as far as swallows are concerned.

All shot with the the 1.4 TC AT 1120mm F9.

Prior to the 3.1 firmware update this combo under performed for BIF in my experience.

Having said that the air quality will be very important as to when this combination is usable.



Mar 26, 2023 at 08:11 AM
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p.48 #5 · p.48 #5 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


Rimpson wrote:
Thx Robert...I have shot American football for 15 years which helps me find and track subjects. For me
a monopod with articulating head (helps make micro adjustments for tracking) is one of the keys and it is so much easier now for any birds in flight with the no blackout screen and add in 20 FPS along with the Z9 recent firmware (3.1). Having said that I still have a lot of wasted frames for swallows but my keeper rate has increased dramatically from my DSLR days.

All the shots I posted were taken in a few hours the same am.
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You are welcome Ricky.

At the bottom I have a question for you.

 Mirrorless D500: We don’t know when, but we who feel we know agree .... a mirrorless D500 is inevitable. And it will be pro-grade mint.

 Nikon glass: I believe everyone who shoots wildlife now knows that Nikon has the most innovative glass options.

 Z9 for me?: I’ll probably get a Z9 soon but have been refocusing on my passion for fine-woodworking and so I may need to juggle the two now. Not sure I can.

 Rumored Z8: Have been hoping to first see what that rumored Z8 offers. But if they take much longer, I may not wait.

 Right Angle Finder: For years, I’ve been using the D850 with a right angle finder, over the gunwale and down closer to the water. Too much time is required to screw and unscrew it. The attachment of Steve Perry using the Z9/500PF near water-level came from his video on comparing Z9 and A1.

 Z9 exciting feature: I do not want another season to go by without features such as an articulating LCD with the same features as in the main viewfinder, pre-release, periodic firmware upgrades... and pro-grade video options (if there is such a thing in hybrid)


 Z9 size and weight: Lance B helped me find the numbers for this: The Z9 is slightly lighter in weight and slightly smaller in size than my D850 with the battery grip. And my D850 lives with the battery grip. So, the size and weight are something I live with now. It's my go-to. Yes, I would like to be able to remove the grip but I rarely take it off my D850 as it is.

 Monopod: Interesting that you have adapted to the monopod. I guess a photographer would adapt if shooting American football for 15 years. I've had a nice Giottos MMl 3290B monopod for many years but never use it. And I have various heads. I would like to practice if I knew a good technique. With an articulating head, I guess I don’t understand how the photographer can prevent the main shaft from rotating.

Oh, maybe it just occurred to me.

Maybe you are not concerned that the monopod shaft rotates. Maybe you want it to. So, are you using the articulating head *for vertical movement only*.

Might you be willing to explain the best monopod techniques? After 15 years on the sidelines of football games you surely know the best techniques.

No hurries or worries. .

Back to the coffee table project for my daughter for awhile today. Later.







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Mar 26, 2023 at 10:01 AM
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p.48 #6 · p.48 #6 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


I came back and touched up that last post. Just noticed you joined George with a like. Please take your time though, because I really am going out to the garage now.

Later



Mar 26, 2023 at 12:27 PM
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p.48 #7 · p.48 #7 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


Sent you a PM Robert.


Mar 26, 2023 at 12:54 PM
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p.48 #8 · p.48 #8 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


Spring is definitely here at last. From this morning walk. I'm pretty impressed how the AF is able to pick up kinglets and finches in the branches now.


Ruby-Crowned Kinglet



Sparrow's Song



Starling's Nest



Molting Finch



Mar 26, 2023 at 02:12 PM
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p.48 #9 · p.48 #9 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


Hints of spring are finally revealing itself in Minnesota.





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  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 800mm f/6.3 VR S lens    800mm    f/6.3    1/800s    560 ISO    +0.3 EV  



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Mar 26, 2023 at 06:32 PM
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p.48 #10 · p.48 #10 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


OwlsEyes wrote:
Hints of spring are finally revealing itself in Minnesota.


Is that this year? Can't be. I'm in Minnesota and there's no open water. People are still out on the ice fishing!



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p.48 #11 · p.48 #11 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


MikeW2 wrote:
Is that this year? Can't be. I'm in Minnesota and there's no open water. People are still out on the ice fishing!


Yes sir... I live in Stillwater and I look for seeps along the St. Croix. I spent the better part of this morning in a tragopan blind photographing geese, swans, ducks, nuthatch and downies. It was a mix of ice and rivers between ice sheets.

There were two males and hen near my location, and I have seen decent shots of them together.
It's been a very slow transition to spring, but the birds are returning... albeit slowly.

bruce



Mar 26, 2023 at 09:31 PM
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p.48 #12 · p.48 #12 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


The cranes are back in town


Sandhill Crane



Sandhill Crane



Sandhill Crane



Mar 26, 2023 at 11:34 PM
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p.48 #13 · p.48 #13 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


lukemeup wrote:
The cranes are back in town

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52773288017_3d0f722182_h.jpg

Sandhill Crane


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52773288042_aa8ec4ae68_h.jpg

Sandhill Crane


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52774238540_92dc915669_h.jpg

Sandhill Crane


Always great shots, but these are particularly wonderful, Luke!



Mar 26, 2023 at 11:44 PM
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p.48 #14 · p.48 #14 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


Striated Heron - juvenile

Z9 + 800 f6.3 PF, 1/320s f/6.3 at 800.0mm iso800



Z9 + 800 f6.3 PF, 1/160s f/6.3 at 800.0mm iso500




Mar 26, 2023 at 11:46 PM
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p.48 #15 · p.48 #15 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


Lance B wrote:
Striated Heron - juvenile

Z9 + 800 f6.3 PF, 1/320s f/6.3 at 800.0mm iso800

https://pbase.com/lance_b/image/173497585/original.jpg

Z9 + 800 f6.3 PF, 1/160s f/6.3 at 800.0mm iso500

https://pbase.com/lance_b/image/173497586/original.jpg


Beautiful shots Lance... The Australian striated heron looks amazingly similar to a juvenile green heron (Butorides virescens). Our version is relatively ubiquitous throughout much of Central and North America.



Mar 27, 2023 at 06:00 AM
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p.48 #16 · p.48 #16 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


OwlsEyes wrote:
Beautiful shots Lance... The Australian striated heron looks amazingly similar to a juvenile green heron (Butorides virescens). Our version is relatively ubiquitous throughout much of Central and North America.


Thank you very much, Bruce. Much appreciated!

From the photos I have seen of the Green Heron, it does look quite similar.



Mar 27, 2023 at 04:57 PM
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p.48 #17 · p.48 #17 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


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Always great shots, but these are particularly wonderful, Luke!


Cheers, Lance. Now I just need to get some skill to catch swallows in flight. Ugh.




Mar 27, 2023 at 06:20 PM
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lukemeup wrote:
Cheers, Lance. Now I just need to get some skill to catch swallows in flight. Ugh.



They are bl00dy difficult!



Mar 27, 2023 at 08:33 PM
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Lance B wrote:
Striated Heron - juvenile



Awesome images Lance!



Mar 27, 2023 at 09:30 PM
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p.48 #20 · p.48 #20 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread


A few more ducks slowly making their way north..




  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 800mm f/6.3 VR S lens    800mm    f/6.3    1/800s    400 ISO    +0.3 EV  






  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 800mm f/6.3 VR S lens    800mm    f/6.3    1/800s    320 ISO    +0.3 EV  






  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 800mm f/6.3 VR S lens    800mm    f/6.3    1/800s    72 ISO    +0.7 EV  




Mar 27, 2023 at 10:26 PM
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