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Official 800PF image and discussion thread

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p.3 #1 · p.3 #1 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

Never thought 800mm could be lens for flower

1/1000s iso 200, f6.3 .

Apr 26, 2022 at 06:38 AM

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p.3 #2 · p.3 #2 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

That’s a nice picture. It’s been so cold here this spring that even the greenhouses aren’t selling flowers yet. Haha. I know of a campground, always up and running by May 1st for the opening of fishing season, that told its renters it will be open but not to expect running water because the ground is still frozen. Back to the PF.

I bet the 800 PF takes a lot of photos of bees and butterflies in its lifetime, but I’m having doubts as to whether mine will be available to do so this spring or summer. That initial run and shipment of lenses was so small in number, and with NPS members jumping the line, it may not matter that my “regular joe consumer” order was confirmed by email at 12:00 am CST. If the trend of teeny tiny 800 PF shipments and dropping 600 f/4E prices continues, I probably won’t own an 800 PF. I sold off my FTZ so I wouldn’t be tempted by dropping F mount glass, but one never knows.

Apr 26, 2022 at 07:58 AM

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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

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That’s a nice picture. It’s been so cold here this spring that even the greenhouses aren’t selling flowers yet. Haha. I know of a campground, always up and running by May 1st for the opening of fishing season, that told its renters it will be open but not to expect running water because the ground is still frozen. Back to the PF.

I bet the 800 PF takes a lot of photos of bees and butterflies in its lifetime, but I’m having doubts as to whether mine will be available to do so this spring or summer. That initial run and...Show more →

Weather is just strange this year. Over here, April is generally the hottest month but at the beginning of the month, it was pleasantly cool like November weather for several days followed by rain. The last few days feel more like the usual April summer but this morning we had our summer usual morning and noon time monsoon season.

600/4e FL price is going down quite quickly. I don't have my 600/4e FL anymore to compare to 800PF but I can tell you this.
600/4e FL + TC14e iii is slightly less sharp than 400/2.8S + TCx2. 800PF is slightly sharper than 400/2.8S + TCx2.
It is also almost 1.5 kg lighter than 600/4e FL which makes handholding so much easier.
If you use 800mm focal length often, I think 800PF is a no brainer. However, if you also need 600mm focal length as well, it is becoming a very attractive choice.

Mind you, the difference, unless you pixel peep a lot, either choice will give you top notch image regardless but it is really the weight saving that makes the biggest difference.

Apr 26, 2022 at 08:24 AM

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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

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You will get your 800pf. Not every NPS order can jump the line. If a regular order is early enough, you will get yours from the place you ordered.
It's not like your lcs can control how many NPS order got shipped. This is directly coming from Nikon. Nikon ship nps orders with a name on it to the store. If Nikon have enough stock, they will send let say 5 with nps names on them. But they will also send a couple of extra for the store to fufill their regular orders even though the store might have 10 nps orders.
When Nikon doesn't have anything to ship, they have nothing to ship. Many NPS members(including myself) are still waiting for the 400S. This is normal for just released and high demand gear.
Also, it is still very early to speculate about 800pf stock.

Apr 26, 2022 at 08:58 AM

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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

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I had a bit more fun today.

All handheld, no cropping, no added sharpening or denoised in post. All shot wide opened at f6.3 .

https://morboi.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/NZ9_1174.jpg
Bokeh when it is a few feet away seems fine but objects a few inches behind sometimes does not look very good I think.
1/1000s, iso 1100.

https://morboi.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/NZ9_1235.jpg

This is pretty close to minimum focusing distance. 1/1000s, iso 2000

And just for fun on my way out of the park, visiting my frequent model

https://morboi.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/NZ9_1436.jpg

https://morboi.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Untitled-2-2.jpg

100% cropped is a bit softer than usual but considered that this is handheld at 1/25s f6.3, iso 80.
It is not too bad, I think.

The 800PF looks to be a fascinating lens, and I am considering returning to Nikon after selling the D500+500PF combo. The bokeh on the twigs to the right of the bird in the first image looks very unattractive I have to say, but otherwise it looks like an upscaled 500PF, which is very good.
To have that reach in such a package is quite something.

I had anticipated a much higher price following the Z400mm's staggering price point, but it's within reach surprisingly.

Apr 26, 2022 at 02:49 PM

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p.3 #6 · p.3 #6 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

Looking forward to more sample images. If you guys got the lens - get to work.

Apr 27, 2022 at 05:40 PM

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p.3 #7 · p.3 #7 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

nice video , af seem quick!!

Apr 27, 2022 at 08:14 PM

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p.3 #8 · p.3 #8 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

Weather was not good today. Windy and rainy. But I did get to get acquainted with the lens. I’ll only say this. Regardless of how many spectacular or unspectacular images I get with it, I will keep this lens for a very long time. It’s the first time I’ve been feeling this comfortable handling a superteles. What you hear and see on YouTube and post are an understatement of the lens weight and balance.
I also like the bag it comes with very much. It looks like it was designed to be carried with the Z9. The fit is perfect with the hood collapsed and the lens cap protector.
I’m going out tomorrow morning to search for something to shoot. Around here, there ain’t much still.
I don’t care what anyone say about the newer softcase/bag vs. the old hardcase that looks more expensive. This bag will be a lot more useful than the hardcase that throw in the attic for storage until I sell the lens.

Vs. the bag I used to carry the 600E with.

In terms of the steal me “Nikon” logo on the bag, I got a quick and easy fix for it.

Apr 27, 2022 at 09:23 PM

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p.3 #9 · p.3 #9 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

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Weather was not good today. Windy and rainy. But I did get to get acquainted with the lens. I’ll only say this. Regardless of how many spectacular or unspectacular images I get with it, I will keep this lens for a very long time. It’s the first time I’ve been feeling this comfortable handling a superteles. What you hear and see on YouTube and post are an understatement of the lens weight and balance.
I also like the bag it comes with very much. It looks like it was designed to be carried with the Z9. The fit...Show more →

Galfer tape would do a good job too of covering the logo. It doesn't have side pocket or clip to carry a tripod?? I always carry my tripod(really light sertup now, 3.8lbs tripod and gimball)

The bag is much better then the useless hard case !! Congrats again!!

Apr 27, 2022 at 10:01 PM

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p.3 #10 · p.3 #10 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

I went out today and shot with both 400/2.8s+tcx2 and 800pf. Unfortunately my internet at home has broken cable and it wont be fixed until tomorrow so no picture to share yet. But 400/2.8s + tcx2 does focus faster. For bif, it is almost instaneous but 800pf takes about 1-2 second longer. For perched bird, eye detection is engaged sooner on 400/2.8s +tc. Now, if I dont have 400/2.8s, I would say that 800pf is pretty fast. 100-400 may be a bit faster as well but I am not 100% sure. I whined a bit to my local dealer about this and he said that at the moment, 800pf is optimized for longer distance and the closer you are, the slower it will get. Today, bee eaters were mostly 10-15m distance. However, he said that there most likely will be firmware to update af later. However, I have no idea how true this is.

Apr 28, 2022 at 03:17 AM

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p.3 #11 · p.3 #11 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

Great to see hand held pics and know it is actually being shipped now.
Not heard of anyone in the UK receiving delivery yet.
Nice to see use of TCs and how it looks like filling the frame more (/cropping less) helps to push the ISO quite high with good results.

Apr 28, 2022 at 04:06 AM

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p.3 #12 · p.3 #12 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

suteetat wrote:
I went out today and shot with both 400/2.8s+tcx2 and 800pf. Unfortunately my internet at home has broken cable and it wont be fixed until tomorrow so no picture to share yet. But 400/2.8s + tcx2 does focus faster. For bif, it is almost instaneous but 800pf takes about 1-2 second longer. For perched bird, eye detection is engaged sooner on 400/2.8s +tc. Now, if I dont have 400/2.8s, I would say that 800pf is pretty fast. 100-400 may be a bit faster as well but I am not 100% sure. I whined a bit to my local dealer about...Show more →

I think we are starting to see why this is a $6500 USD lens. Those like me who assumed a price of $10,000 plus prior to release also presumed it would perform as good or better than an E FL prime lens Z mount equivalent given the S designation. And I think we’re starting to see, that instead, it actually performs like an 800 mm equivalent of the 500 PF.

Curiously enough, I think Polin’s first look video is panning out to provide the most accurate representation of the lens. In that video, you can see the lens hunting a bit. And you can also see some less than stellar bokeh present in some of the pics. It was, of course, a super sharp and hand holdable 800 mm lens, though.

Apr 28, 2022 at 06:46 AM

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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

Archerscreek wrote:
I think we are starting to see why this is a $6500 USD lens. Those like me who assumed a price of $10,000 plus prior to release also presumed it would perform as good or better than an E FL prime lens Z mount equivalent given the S designation. And I think we’re starting to see, that instead, it actually performs like an 800 mm equivalent of the 500 PF.

Curiously enough, I think Polin’s first look video is panning out to provide the most accurate representation of the lens. In that video, you can see the lens hunting a...Show more →

I think the characterization of the lens as an 800mm equivalent of the 500 PF is a good description. I still think the Polin video missed the mark in some key elements, however. It is becoming clear the lens works better for longer distances than shorter distances. I trust suteeat on that and none of the reviewers mentioned it, so that is new information. I still think the bokeh looks great too. If backgrounds are close it can't work magic and blur those out, but with reasonably distant backgrounds it seems to look great and even with closer backgrounds I don't think it looks bad.

Apr 28, 2022 at 07:45 AM

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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

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Galfer tape would do a good job too of covering the logo. It doesn't have side pocket or clip to carry a tripod?? I always carry my tripod(really light sertup now, 3.8lbs tripod and gimball)

The bag is much better then the useless hard case !! Congrats again!!

It has two side pocket that can be used to store an extra battery(or two or three) and some memory cards. It’s not very roomy in there though.
It does have strap for tripod on the other side of the bag(not shown in pic).

Apr 28, 2022 at 08:07 AM

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Apr 28, 2022 at 08:49 AM

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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

$14k for the 400f2.8 TCVRS plus another $600 for 2xTCZ vs. $6500 for 800pf.
It's a no brainer if you need 800mm. Like I said before, a great image will take some time to get regardless of which gear you use. 800pf is not a cheap lens and the IQ is not from a cheap lens. Not too many people have the 400S and the 800pf at the moment but Ricci did say that he prefer the 800pf over the 400S with 2xTC. He thought the AF was a little faster with the 800pf.

Apr 28, 2022 at 08:56 AM

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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

Just to clarify my meaning, an 800 mm Z mount equivalent of the 500 PF lens is not a bad thing given how excellent the 500 PF is and how it’s widely regarded as the best bang for your buck lens produced.

And more email notifications have gone out today indicating a second round of shipments have commenced. That’s a positive sign. All NPS members again, apparently.

Apr 28, 2022 at 12:38 PM

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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

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Weather was not good today. Windy and rainy. But I did get to get acquainted with the lens. I’ll only say this. Regardless of how many spectacular or unspectacular images I get with it, I will keep this lens for a very long time. It’s the first time I’ve been feeling this comfortable handling a superteles. What you hear and see on YouTube and post are an understatement of the lens weight and balance.
I also like the bag it comes with very much. It looks like it was designed to be carried with the Z9. The fit...Show more →

The bag is exactly the same as that of the latest Canon EF lenses

Apr 28, 2022 at 01:13 PM

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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

Archerscreek wrote

Curiously enough, I think Polin’s first look video is panning out to provide the most accurate representation of the lens. In that video, you can see the lens hunting a bit. And you can also see some less than stellar bokeh present in some of the pics. It was, of course, a super sharp and hand holdable 800 mm lens, though.

I think Steve Perry's first look video on the lens is a more accurate representation of the lens. His images using it are so much more professional looking as is his presentation and discussion! Just my opinion though.....

Apr 28, 2022 at 01:31 PM

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p.3 #20 · p.3 #20 · Official 800PF image and discussion thread

George DeCamp wrote:
I think Steve Perry's first look video on the lens is a more accurate representation of the lens. His images using it are so much more professional looking as is his presentation and discussion! Just my opinion though.....

Steve Perry is just a perfect example that it takes more than gear to make the photo.

Apr 28, 2022 at 01:47 PM

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