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Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

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p.4 #1 · p.4 #1 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

The z9 isn’t compatible with the Atonos v+ is it?

Feb 10, 2022 at 07:33 PM

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p.4 #2 · p.4 #2 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

Has Nikon published a minimum write speed for the forthcoming 60fps/8k RAW video codec? I want to pick up a larger card for video but want to make sure its suitable for the coming update.

Feb 11, 2022 at 12:25 PM

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p.4 #3 · p.4 #3 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

Blakehfreeman wrote:
Has Nikon published a minimum write speed for the forthcoming 60fps/8k RAW video codec? I want to pick up a larger card for video but want to make sure its suitable for the coming update.

The a1 writes 8k on the slower type a cards so I would imagine a good brand Sandisk, Sony or anglebird type b will be just fine. Keep in mind 128gb is only about 8-9 minutes worth of space.

Feb 12, 2022 at 08:09 AM

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p.4 #4 · p.4 #4 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

I was going to pick up a 512gb card for video. Min write speed is 800mbits. Thanks for the reply!

Steve Beck wrote:
The a1 writes 8k on the slower type a cards so I would imagine a good brand Sandisk, Sony or anglebird type b will be just fine. Keep in mind 128gb is only about 8-9 minutes worth of space.

Feb 12, 2022 at 01:03 PM

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p.4 #5 · p.4 #5 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

Another video attempt. Northern Harrier hunting a large field at Alligator River NWR in North Carolina on Saturday.
~45 seconds of filming in 4k 120fps 2.3x crop with Z9 + 500mm PF handheld using AFC and Wide Area L, processed through DaVinci Resolve at 30fps.

Youtube still processing but its at 1080p as of now.
VERY windy that day. Just below freezing after sunrise and warmed to about 60deg by the end of the day. This was basically mid-afternoon, at least 100yds away. You can see the atmospheric waves in certain parts of the video.

Feb 23, 2022 at 07:41 AM

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p.4 #6 · p.4 #6 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

DGettisNC wrote:
Another video attempt. Northern Harrier hunting a large field at Alligator River NWR in North Carolina on Saturday.
~45 seconds of filming in 4k 120fps 2.3x crop with Z9 + 500mm PF handheld using AFC and Wide Area L, processed through DaVinci Resolve at 30fps.

Youtube still processing but its at 1080p as of now.
VERY windy that day. Just below freezing after sunrise and warmed to about 60deg by the end of the day. This was basically mid-afternoon, at least 100yds away. You can see the atmospheric waves in certain parts of the video.

Where's the music?

Just kidding

Feb 23, 2022 at 08:28 AM

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p.4 #7 · p.4 #7 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

Red Wolf, Alligator River NWR link:

https://www.fws.gov/refuge/Alligator_River/wildlife_and_habitat/red_wolf.html

They say it is "among the rarest of endangered species in the world."

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Feb 23, 2022 at 08:37 AM

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p.4 #8 · p.4 #8 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

bs kite wrote:
Where's the music?

Just kidding

Sincerely now, you did a super job! Video is a real challenge.

Thank you very much for all the information you gave us. Will have to try DaVinci myself in future.

ImHo, the cam did a good job when going behind that vegetation. Did you occasionally have to re-press the AF (Wide Area L?). To my eyes, it looked like it quickly popped in and out occasionally. But that is normal I think.
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btw, that is one of the most exciting NWR's in the Eastern U.S.. As I recall, I think USFWS collared...Show more →

Thank you! I'm pretty sure I was occasionally pumping the focus button. I think I may try out some AF-F instead of AF-C this weekend to see if that is any better/worse. Then again its kind of hard to judge it based on the conditions and distance for the Harrier video at least. I have a bunch of Tundra Swan clips as well that I need to go through, and 1 Kestrel in flight as well.

And yes, ARNWR can be pretty awesome. I didnt see any wolves while I was there this time, but when I got back home I saw where a few people had posted Short Eared Owl sightings that same day I was there. I will probably go back either this weekend or next weekend (I found a Screech Owl out there I want to try to get a better shot of as well

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And you are correct RE: the Red Wolves. For whatever reason, the govt. didnt really do anything the last 5 years or so, and where the population at one point was over 100 wolves, they now believe there are only about 10 left living in the wild out there. HOWEVER, they just recently announced that they will be releasing 9 more wolves here very soon. They are already in the acclimation pens. They are going to be releasing a family of 5 wolves, and then 2 separate pairs as well. They are also putting up more signage in the area, because 5 wolves were hit and killed by cars just last year alone.

I have seen one, almost 2 years ago. I was about 200yds away and lots of heat waves to deal with, but it was still cool at least seeing one.

Feb 23, 2022 at 08:38 AM

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p.4 #9 · p.4 #9 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

DGettisNC wrote:
Thank you! I'm pretty sure I was occasionally pumping the focus button. I think I may try out some AF-F instead of AF-C this weekend to see if that is any better/worse. Then again its kind of hard to judge it based on the conditions and distance for the Harrier video at least. I have a bunch of Tundra Swan clips as well that I need to go through, and 1 Kestrel in flight as well.

And yes, ARNWR can be pretty awesome. I didnt see any wolves while I was there this time, but when I got back home...Show more →

Thanks for all that info! Enjoy seeing and hearing about your exciting work!

Feb 23, 2022 at 08:41 AM

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p.4 #10 · p.4 #10 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

and I was just thinking I need to make that next step and figure out how to overlay some music on the videos lol. I've been making them without audio because all you can hear is the wind and me breathing behind the mic because I try to hold my breath while filming but it never works lol

Feb 23, 2022 at 08:42 AM

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p.4 #11 · p.4 #11 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

Where would be a good place to learn the nuts and bolts of DSLR video? I'd like a decent course or something to get up to speed on audio, neutral density filter usage, frame rates and so on.
Thanks

Feb 23, 2022 at 10:55 AM

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p.4 #12 · p.4 #12 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

All I can do at this point is record, then process in DaVinci for 1/4 speed lol...I need to learn the audio part next.

I have read that, whatever frame rate you are shooting, you should double your shutter speed in most instances. So if you are shooting 30fps, use 1/60 shutter. If using 120fps, use 1/250 shutter, etc.

Since you are using those generally slower shutter speeds, if you want to shoot wide open then you may need to use ND filters otherwise you will lose the highlights. I was trying some tundra swans this weekend and with 1/250 shutter in mid-day light...since I didnt have my ND filters with me I was having to stop down to like f11, f13 or more.

Feb 23, 2022 at 11:22 AM

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p.4 #13 · p.4 #13 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

DGettisNC wrote:
All I can do at this point is record, then process in DaVinci for 1/4 speed lol...I need to learn the audio part next.

I have read that, whatever frame rate you are shooting, you should double your shutter speed in most instances. So if you are shooting 30fps, use 1/60 shutter. If using 120fps, use 1/250 shutter, etc.

The rule works, just don't be afraid to use 1/80 for 30fps or 1/160 in 120fps IF you really need to for exposure reasons. Most of the time the footage will look pretty decent.

Feb 23, 2022 at 01:38 PM

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p.4 #14 · p.4 #14 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

scott f wrote:
Where would be a good place to learn the nuts and bolts of DSLR video? I'd like a decent course or something to get up to speed on audio, neutral density filter usage, frame rates and so on.
Thanks

Just thought I would let you know why you have not received a response.

We're all in the same boat as you.

We're new to shooting video with a DSLR or MILC.

I've been googling for a video on this and have not found anything good yet.

Feb 23, 2022 at 08:17 PM

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DGettisNC wrote:
and I was just thinking I need to make that next step and figure out how to overlay some music on the videos lol. I've been making them without audio because all you can hear is the wind and me breathing behind the mic because I try to hold my breath while filming but it never works lol

I may be able to help just a little on that noise problem. The slightest wind can come through very loud, very annoying.

Here is one I did a few years ago in New Mexico. There was no wind, yet, the wind noise was very obtrusive. Now, I am left with finding a way to remove the wind noise, while keeping the cranes talking. I like the content of this and the other vid I took that day. But you can see that my. panning was jerky too, so, these two videos are going to require a lot of work in post. ... when I find the time.

The best way (and I have not done it yet

), is to stop the noise before it happens. I may get a Rodes mic that mounts on the hotshoe. There are several ways to suppress the wind noise and they are easily found by googling

Regarding the sound of you breathing, I had that problem for a very long time. I finally read the instructions. You know what they say about "If all else fails...". There is an in-camera adjustment for changing microphone sensitivity. I had mine so high that it was recording the AFing sound of the D850. And (like you), I was holding my breath because I could hear my breathing in the recorded video. So, it may help you to reduce the mic sensitivity.

Feb 23, 2022 at 08:33 PM

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p.4 #16 · p.4 #16 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

Good primer for noobies to video:

Feb 24, 2022 at 10:17 AM

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bs kite wrote:
Just thought I would let you know why you have not received a response.

We're all in the same boat as you.

We're new to shooting video with a DSLR or MILC.

I've been googling for a video on this and have not found anything good yet.

Thank you. I did find a course on Udemy called "Video Production Master Class - Beginner to Pro Video Creation." I forget how much it was, but very inexpensive. I'm just on the beginners stuff at present, but it looks like it will be quite helpful for those that are interested.

Feb 25, 2022 at 10:36 AM

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p.4 #18 · p.4 #18 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

bs kite wrote:
Here is one I did a few years ago in New Mexico. There was no wind, yet, the wind noise was very obtrusive. Now, I am left with finding a way to remove the wind noise, while keeping the cranes talking.

best solution is a dead cat for the rode mic, similar to this: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/392861-REG/Rode_DEAD_CAT_Dead_Cat_Wind_Muff.html

there are noise reduction plugins that will sort of address wind noise, air conditioner hum, etc., it revolves around the plugin sampling a section of the audio in the timeline that has no talking or bird chirping, then have the noise reduction software apply the results to the entire audio track.

wind rumble is a lower frequency so that frequency gets removed, while bird chirping is a higher frequency, so you can improve the audio to some extent but if it's pushed too hard it'll sound unnatural, sorta like how sharpening too much when editing a raw photo file looks unnatural.

audio in post can be complicated.

Feb 26, 2022 at 07:14 PM

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p.4 #19 · p.4 #19 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

I stumbled across this birding footage of Z9 + 400 2.8S. Looks like 4k/120 although it was uploaded at 1080 (Edit: 4k was uploaded). Really lovely combo showcased here:
https://youtu.be/WoBWcCnNz3I

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Mar 01, 2022 at 04:58 PM

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p.4 #20 · p.4 #20 · Z9 and Z8!: A thread for videos and video tutorials.

https://youtu.be/0gcz_-Ok_Is

Great Argus mating dance.

Here is my little attempt at 8K video with minimal processing in DaVinci, just converted it to 4K basically and adjusted curve slightly.
I think I will need to bring video fluid head next time if I want to take video. Gimbal is just not a good idea.

However, I think I need to upgrade my computer or at least part of it.

My computer is about 3 years old I think, i7 9700k, 32 GB ram and Nvidia Geforce RTX 2070 card.It can play 8K clip but lots of stuttering

I assume it is the video card that is the weak link since I don't play game and at PS was not exactly demanding on video front so I did not invest a lot in graphic card.

Shot with 200/2 wide open as it was early morning with not much light. Z9 bird eye detection does not seems to include great Argus

. It rarely would recognized the head.

Mar 01, 2022 at 06:53 PM

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