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Sorry for bothering but I am having difficulty finding a proper remote controller for Sony mirrorless A7RIV.

I would appreciate if you could provide me with the information.

Thanks.

Kee Woo Rhee



Jan 17, 2022 at 06:00 PM
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Sony RMT-P1BT


Jan 17, 2022 at 07:03 PM
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rattlebonez wrote:
Sony RMT-P1BT


Thanks!




Jan 17, 2022 at 07:41 PM
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Aodelan Sony Bluetooth Wireless Remote Control ( RMT-P1BTA ) works well with the A1. Presumably it should work with the A7IV.


Jan 17, 2022 at 10:42 PM
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I've had the RMT-P1BTA remote for awhile. I use it with both my A7RIII and A1. Frankly, it's been very problematic. It frequently loses pairing and has to be re-paired. It doesn't seem to hold pairing with both cameras. I'm beginning to wonder it it's defective. I was going to post for suggestions for wired remote options...


Jan 17, 2022 at 10:52 PM
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EDIT: This post turned out to be complete gibberish and falsehood, feel free to disregard!!!

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I regret that with some newer Sony models it is no longer possible - to the best of my knowledge - to use a more traditional kind of intervalometer, such as my Pixel TW-283. (the article describes its use with a different camera system, but that's just a matter of which wire you use between the wireless receiver and the camera body)

It is utterly, utterly reliable in my experience. Batteries last for years. It keeps on going in cold conditions. It has impressive range - I once returned indoors for a hot drink, leaving my camera running outside in the garden during a timed sequence of astro-shots I was taking... I only realised, minutes later, that I still had the wireless trigger in my pocket with me, and not outside near the camera... so I rushed back outside, worried the camera wouldn't have been shooting... but the receiver had been picking up the trigger commands successfully the whole time, at a distance and through walls, it had kept on going. It gives me all the intervalometer functions I could want... and I trust it to really work, on all the cameras I presently own.

But the newest Sonys no longer have the USB 2 port that it and other remote triggers require for sending shutter-firing commands to the camera. So, unless I am mistaken (and I would be glad to be!) the only way to remote-trigger Sonys nowadays (such as the A7C and A1) is with bluetooth accessories and the like, which are more limited, often more expensive, and more specific to camera brand etc. Bluetooth works, sort of... in principle... but in my experience, in every bluetooth gadget I own... there is a certain degree of flakiness and unreliability. Range constraints. Worse battery life. Devices going to sleep a lot so that they have a wake-up-time lag when you go back to use them after a few minutes' inactivity. Etc. One has to control, by convoluted and easily-forgotten means, which device your bluetooth widget is talking to today, and which not (whereas with an intervalometer like mine that is controlled very straightforwardly by the physical fact of which camera the receiver is plugged into!)

Perhaps the wireless, bluetooth triggers that one must use now are a lot better than I pessimistically give them credit for. I would like to hope so - haven't been forced to convert away to one yet, so in time I guess I'll find out.

For the sake of the OP... I think the A7Riv still has the USB 2 port, does it not? Probably one of the last models still to have that port, rather than only a USB 3 type-C port that can't (I think?) take shutter commands. In which case, my delightful old intervalometer and others like it are perhaps still an option if you're interested.

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Jan 18, 2022 at 05:27 AM
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For me, Aodelan RMT-P1BTA works well with Sony a7r4. In cold wether i keep it warm in my pocket to help the battery.


Jan 18, 2022 at 06:39 AM
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You can also use Remote Control with your phone or a tablet


Jan 18, 2022 at 06:50 AM
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GHarris wrote:
But the newest Sonys no longer have the USB 2 port that it and other remote triggers require for sending shutter-firing commands to the camera. So, unless I am mistaken (and I would be glad to be!) the only way to remote-trigger Sonys nowadays (such as the A7C and A1) is with bluetooth accessories and the like, which are more limited, often more expensive, and more specific to camera brand etc. Bluetooth works, sort of... in principle... but in my experience, in every bluetooth gadget I own... there is a certain degree of flakiness and unreliability. Range constraints. Worse battery
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I left a USB C lead at home so had to buy/borrow a lead, In Switzerland, found a lead, wow expensive but for a third of the price found an adapter, for another Usb lead. So I guess finding a adapter the other way may mean you do not need wireless.



Jan 18, 2022 at 07:56 AM
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EDIT: This post, too, turned out to be complete gibberish and falsehood. Feel free to save yourself time wasted on reading it!!!

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Slalom wrote:
I left a USB C lead at home so had to buy/borrow a lead, In Switzerland, found a lead, wow expensive but for a third of the price found an adapter, for another Usb lead. So I guess finding a adapter the other way may mean you do not need wireless.


I think the problem is that the USB-C port on the newest Sony cameras may not be capable of receivng a command to fire the camera's shutter.

The older models' USB 2 port was a modified USB 2 port. It was actually a lot longer/deeper than a standard USB 2 port. The deeper recesses of the port had extra connectors, as I dimly and perhaps wrongly understand it. A cable suitable for triggering the shutter on Sony cameras (such as this one - just a totally random example) had a longer USB jack than the normal micro-USB jack, to reach those connections.

(A standard USB-2 cable, to just charge the camera or transfer data, didn't reach those pins with its shorter jack so it didn't interfere with anything.)

Whereas I believe the USB 3 type C port is just a standard, to-spec USB C port. There's no room for extra pins for custom, Sony-oriented "fire the shutter" signals. It probably isn't possible, or at the very least Sony haven't implemented any such. I would be delighted if there is a remote shutter trigger USB type C cable, I'd be delighted to be mistaken of course. I think maybe there can't be, given the USB type C connector specification. That it was possible with the USB 2 connector's design was a lucky coincidence that no longer applies now that the newest Sony models feature only a USB C, and no USB 2, port.

Anyway I apologise I am at risk of derailing the thread here. I didn't mean to bog the discussion down with these distracting details - I'm just replying to the above to clarify that it's not, I believe, just a "buy the right cable" problem. I don't think you can do wired Sony shutter releases any more with the newest cameras, and as a result any shutter release gadget that provided its own, highly reliable and adaptable wireless receiver doesn't work any more, such that you have to rely on the slightly overelaborate and flaky Bluetooth protocol instead.

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Jan 18, 2022 at 09:39 AM
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I'm also looking for a remote for my A7 IV and have been researching. I know some people say just use the app on your phone, which can be convenient sometimes. But my biggest issue with that is not having a physical button where you can feel it and push without needing to look at it. So usually this kind of thing doesn't work for me.

I'd like both a wired remote as well as a good wireless. Wired for when I'm on the tripod and don't want to deal with pairing, or batteries being dead. And a wireless for taking family photos where I'm in front of the camera too.

From what I can tell, something like this Vello RS-S2II should work just fine, correct?

And the AODELAN mentioned above should get me the wireless option. Or possibly the Revo RBL-S?



Jan 18, 2022 at 03:55 PM
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csebasti wrote:
I'm also looking for a remote for my A7 IV and have been researching. I know some people say just use the app on your phone, which can be convenient sometimes. But my biggest issue with that is not having a physical button where you can feel it and push without needing to look at it. So usually this kind of thing doesn't work for me.

I'd like both a wired remote as well as a good wireless. Wired for when I'm on the tripod and don't want to deal with pairing, or batteries being dead. And a wireless for
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Oh my goodness! You're quite right! I have been completely mistaken...

I was wondering what you could possibly be referring to, when you said you had found a wired remote that would work with the A7 iv. I took a look at your product link and, to my bafflement, it seemed to show the old "long USB2" connector in the product images yet state explicitly that it works with the A7 iv.

I went back and looked up the product images for the A7 iv on Sony's website. Looked for a photo showing the side panel with the connectors uncovered.

And sure enough... to my astonishment... there was a USB 2 port after all, not just a USB type C.

And good grief. I looked at the product photos for other newer models like the a1 and they *all* seemed to still have that USB 2 port.

I have been carrying around in my head the certainty, for quite a while, that the newest models didn't have that port. I am stunned and baffled as to how I got that impression. I was convinced the USB type C port had replaced it and the old port was gone. But I don't know where I picked the idea up from. Maybe from spec sheets that didn't always mention it but always did mention the type C connector. And from a lot of places advertising remotes and remote cables only referencing their compatibility with older models just because the product listing itself was a little old. I'm not sure.

I am *delighted* to be mistaken... I'm quite fond of my little intervalometer! I'll gladly go back and add an edit-correction to my earlier posts pointing out that they're complete tripe. I'm so sorry for wasting everyone's time.

For what it's worth, this does mean the Pixel TW-283 is indeed a viable option after all going forwards for anyone considering buying a reliable and flexible remote/intervalometer.

Oh and a minor point to the guy I'm replying to / quoting - first, thanks for prompting me to notice my ridiculous error, and, second, you might (maybe, just a thought) want to give the TW-283 a look too (though the products you linked to look good as well, and one of them features additional remote-control functions like a button to start and stop video recording... which is nice, although on the other hand neither remote has an intervalometer function).

I mention the TW-283 yet again only because it can be both a wired *and* a wireless remote. If you plug the wireless receiver into the camera, it's a wireless remote that takes wireless firing instructions from the handheld remote. But the handheld remote itself also has a cable socket, and you can just plug it direct into the camera with the same cable the receiver used, if you want to.

It might still need two AAA batteries (but that's two fewer than when in wireless mode). The batteries really do last for an incredible amount of time though, and I've done all sorts of silly things leaving the remote switched on and unattended for hours in the cold night and the batteries so very seldom go flat despite all the abuse. Unlike much else in the Sony system, a good shutter remote is one area where you don't need to suffer from battery-level anxiety!

And the wireless functioning on the TW-283 is *very* reliable and responsive, too, for what it's worth. Anyhow I'll give this thread some space, I've spammed it full of cobblers quite enough by now...



Jan 18, 2022 at 05:39 PM
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GHarris wrote:
Oh and a minor point to the guy I'm replying to / quoting - first, thanks for prompting me to notice my ridiculous error, and, second, you might (maybe, just a thought) want to give the TW-283 a look too (though the products you linked to look good as well, and one of them features additional remote-control functions like a button to start and stop video recording... which is nice, although on the other hand neither remote has an intervalometer function).

I mention the TW-283 yet again only because it can be both a wired *and* a wireless remote. If
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I'll take a look at that Pixel TW-283. That one wasn't on my radar,so thanks for the tip. But my first impression is it's bulkier than I'm looking for. I typically carry a small compact wired remote in a small pocket on my holster bag on chest harness when backpacking. That Pixel wouldn't fit.

I'm sure the battery life is good as you've pointed out, but does it give you any warning before it dies? My concern is being out in the wilderness and it becomes unusable weight. Every ounce counts and I'd rather put those extra ounces into lenses than spare batteries when backpacking.




Jan 18, 2022 at 06:09 PM
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csebasti wrote:
I'll take a look at that Pixel TW-283. That one wasn't on my radar,so thanks for the tip. But my first impression is it's bulkier than I'm looking for. I typically carry a small compact wired remote in a small pocket on my holster bag on chest harness when backpacking. That Pixel wouldn't fit.

I'm sure the battery life is good as you've pointed out, but does it give you any warning before it dies? My concern is being out in the wilderness and it becomes unusable weight. Every ounce counts and I'd rather put those extra ounces into lenses than
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It doesn't give any kind of clear or smart warning. The little oldschool LCD display on the transmitter and receiver becomes dim/faint, and then it keeps going for a long time after that, and then it just stops working eventually.

I guess you've got the option of putting in fresh batteries before a long trip away if you're worried at all. But if your batteries haven't already been in use for several months I'm pretty certain they won't run out on you on a trip. My use of my remote has been very variable in recent years due to changing health. And I don't use it for everything I shoot. But nevertheless I haven't had to replace the batteries more than once per couple of years (I've replaced them twice in total, having owned the TW-283 since 2017).



Jan 18, 2022 at 09:11 PM
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I use an A7RIV as well. I've tried this one from Amazon, https://www.amazon.com/Foto-Tech-Wireless-Remote-Control-Sony/dp/B00GSAEN4A/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=BPX753XUVKGU&keywords=sony%2Bcamera%2Bremote%2Btrigger&qid=1642558792&sprefix=sony%2Bcamera%2Bremote%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-1-spons&smid=A3U1K61ED9W0T5&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzVjdTODhHNEM2ODJXJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzAyNTg0MkNQSEhMRkxCODM5QyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzM1MzU5WDc0NFRLRE03WFlWJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1. It works by infrared so it has to be in front of the camera. Main advantage, it's inexpensive.

I ended up with the Sony RMT-P1BT and have not looked back. It's worked well, unpaired itself only once. Most of my images are made on a tripod. I put the remote on a cord which goes around my neck and it works well, in the field and in the studio. You do have to turn on the bluetooth on the camera which stops the camera from turning off on its own. If you don't turn it off with the switch, it can drain the battery, but I have four so it's not a problem.

As an old and I do mean old, 4x5 film guy, I really miss the simple mechanical cable release that just screwed into the camera or lens. I kept one on each of my 4x5 lenses.



Jan 18, 2022 at 09:27 PM
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doc4x5 wrote:
I use an A7RIV as well. I've tried this one from Amazon, https://www.amazon.com/Foto-Tech-Wireless-Remote-Control-Sony/dp/B00GSAEN4A/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=BPX753XUVKGU&keywords=sony%2Bcamera%2Bremote%2Btrigger&qid=1642558792&sprefix=sony%2Bcamera%2Bremote%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-1-spons&smid=A3U1K61ED9W0T5&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzVjdTODhHNEM2ODJXJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzAyNTg0MkNQSEhMRkxCODM5QyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzM1MzU5WDc0NFRLRE03WFlWJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1. It works by infrared so it has to be in front of the camera. Main advantage, it's inexpensive.

I ended up with the Sony RMT-P1BT and have not looked back. It's worked well, unpaired itself only once. Most of my images are made on a tripod. I put the remote on a cord which goes around my neck and it works well, in the field and in the studio. You do have to turn on the bluetooth on the camera which stops the camera from turning off on
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Thanks for the link, but I don't think the A7 IV has an IR sensor on it for the IR remotes. I used to use one with my Canon DSLRs, but it seemed like the range was not very good. I had two of them and had similar issues with both. I'd always try the IR remote, then end up needing to connect my cell phone and use the app instead.

Maybe I'll just pick up a $10 wired remote as well as the Sony RMT-P1BT. I was looking at the JJC knockoff, but the only thing I can find about whether it works with the A7 IV is someone on DPReview saying they couldn't get it to pair.



Jan 18, 2022 at 11:06 PM
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Thanks for all those discussion.
I ordered 'JJC Intervalometer Timer Remote Control Shutter Release' which you can buy 'wired only' or 'wired & wireless' unit. You will need to pick the model compatible with A7RIV. I will share with you how this remote will function when I photograph next week at the Canadian Rockies.



Jan 18, 2022 at 11:40 PM
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Csebasti, no offense but the OP said he had an A7RIV, as do I. No one mentioned the A7IV.


Jan 19, 2022 at 12:30 AM
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doc4x5 wrote:
Csebasti, no offense but the OP said he had an A7RIV, as do I. No one mentioned the A7IV.


Ah, correct, he did. No offense taken. I'm new to Sony, and keep reading things too fast and missing the "R" at times.

No offense, but someone did mention the A7IV:

ruthenium wrote:
Aodelan Sony Bluetooth Wireless Remote Control ( RMT-P1BTA ) works well with the A1. Presumably it should work with the A7IV.



Jan 19, 2022 at 01:18 AM
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Aodelan Sony Bluetooth Wireless Remote Control ( RMT-P1BTA ) Works great on the A7R4


Jan 19, 2022 at 04:20 PM
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