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p.3 #1 · p.3 #1 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


sjms wrote:
there is most likely a difference. i generally have to perform and get this out. my workflow is quite simple though, but it has certain requirements.

the way you do come off is like everything needs to be in place when the new stuff is released (maybe that got garbled in translation). sometimes that does not happen so if its important one resorts to hopefully plan B which is ready to go.

my workflow is generally 3 parts
1- look and inspect
2- work/edit
3- finish and output

i'm sorry that we don't see eye to eye. i worked 2 careers in parallel for over
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I think everyone has that basic workflow. I choose to do all 3 steps in LR.

I am not worried about anything, at least with respect to photography, and if I gave that impression, it was not my intent.

Regarding career pressures….we all wrestle with that monkey.



Dec 06, 2021 at 05:12 PM
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p.3 #2 · p.3 #2 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


It wasn’t pressure it was a learning experience a true education a driving force.

I will say I have LR don’t use it. But as I said there is a link between DXO and LR. You do have the option to try before you buy too



Dec 06, 2021 at 05:29 PM
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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


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Nosebleed territory, I like that :-) Or maybe “noisebleed territory” 😆
Which noise reduction software are you preferring? I have not yet tried anything outside of Lightroom.


I have been using DXO for quite a few years now. It has about the best raw noise reduction around right now. Limited in jpg. I also have neat image which I use in PScc. Going on 15 years with that

I tried LR when it first showed up and have it on my computer. Haven’t found a use for it. It tends to like to take over things.



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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


Philosophically speaking ... what are you gentlemen arguing about?


Dec 06, 2021 at 08:02 PM
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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


saaketham wrote:
Philosophically speaking ... what are you gentlemen arguing about?


Hell if I know. Just passing time till the Z9 gets here I guess.



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saaketham wrote:
Philosophically speaking ... what are you gentlemen arguing about?


absolutely nothing.



Dec 07, 2021 at 08:25 AM
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Dec 07, 2021 at 08:55 AM
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p.3 #8 · p.3 #8 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


This thread was started 1 year ago to discuss that when the Z9 becomes widely available what would that do to the resale value of a D6.

Here we are 1 year later, and I have been looking at the used market for the Nikon Flagship D6. I'm seeing prices in the $3.5-4K range for low (50Kish) shutter counts.

Considering the entry cost of a Z9 (body+flash card+FTZ) is about $6,300 the delta on a new Z9 vs. used D6 is about $2,750. That left over money on the table could buy some nice F-mount lenes.

Those in the know say that mirrorless is the future but for some of us that are long in the tooth we don't have a future ahead of us. Guess what I'm saying is that if a hobbyist photographer wanted to jump into a Nikon Flagship camera the D6 might be the better deal if that same person already had invested in F-mount lenses.

My OCD causes me to over analyze this stuff sometimes.



Dec 17, 2022 at 01:01 PM
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p.3 #9 · p.3 #9 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


I think it would depend on how much you need the auto focus benefits. The whole mirrorless experience is something you might quite enjoy. The lenses are phenomenal too. With any luck, you may be able to buy a Nikon mirrorless camera for a similar price with enhanced autofocus like the Z9 soon.

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This thread was started 1 year ago to discuss that when the Z9 becomes widely available what would that do to the resale value of a D6.

Here we are 1 year later, and I have been looking at the used market for the Nikon Flagship D6. I'm seeing prices in the $3.5-4K range for low (50Kish) shutter counts.

Considering the entry cost of a Z9 (body+flash card+FTZ) is about $6,300 the delta on a new Z9 vs. used D6 is about $2,750. That left over money on the table could buy some nice F-mount lenes.

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Dec 17, 2022 at 01:32 PM
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p.3 #10 · p.3 #10 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


Mr. D wrote:
This thread was started 1 year ago to discuss that when the Z9 becomes widely available what would that do to the resale value of a D6.

Here we are 1 year later, and I have been looking at the used market for the Nikon Flagship D6. I'm seeing prices in the $3.5-4K range for low (50Kish) shutter counts.

Considering the entry cost of a Z9 (body+flash card+FTZ) is about $6,300 the delta on a new Z9 vs. used D6 is about $2,750. That left over money on the table could buy some nice F-mount lenes.

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A 20mp slappy shutter D6 is not at all comparable to the 45mp eshutter Z9 IMO, and the price disparity is fair given today's market. The Z9 is insanely more competent and capable than the D6 in all areas, and in some areas that don't even exist in the D6. Whether you need any of that is up to the individual shooter, and whether those bells and whistles are worth it are the same calculus.

There is no time for overthinking in my head.

"What is the best camera/lens combo I can comfortably afford without being the subject of a Netflix spousal murder documentary? Buy that."



Dec 17, 2022 at 01:38 PM
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p.3 #11 · p.3 #11 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


i will agree with that




  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 24-120mm f/4 S lens    30mm    f/7.1    1/100s    11400 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 24-120mm f/4 S lens    24mm    1/25s    720 ISO  






  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 24-120mm f/4 S lens    24mm    1/80s    25600 ISO  






  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 24-120mm f/4 S lens    28mm    1/125s    110 ISO  






  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 24-120mm f/4 S lens    24mm    1/100s    22800 ISO  






  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 24-120mm f/4 S lens    24mm    1/50s    25600 ISO  






  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 24-120mm f/4 S lens    24mm    f/7.1    1/50s    25600 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 24-120mm f/4 S lens    51mm    1/50s    4000 ISO  






  NIKON Z 9    NIKKOR Z 24-120mm f/4 S lens    60mm    f/5.6    1/100s    25600 ISO    0.0 EV  




Dec 17, 2022 at 01:41 PM
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p.3 #12 · p.3 #12 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


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A 20mp slappy shutter D6 is not at all comparable to the 45mp eshutter Z9 IMO, and the price disparity is fair given today's market. The Z9 is insanely more competent and capable than the D6 in all areas, and in some areas that don't even exist in the D6. Whether you need any of that is up to the individual shooter, and whether those bells and whistles are worth it are the same calculus.

There is no time for overthinking in my head.

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Confirmation bias at it's finest. I just scrolled through the last 6 pages of the Z9 thread and try as I might, couldn't find one example to substantiate any of this gibberish. Anyone who thinks they need a Z9 to capture a sitting dog, pelicans in flight (one of the slowest moving birds), or pelicans floating in the water, really has no clue. I'm not disparaging anyone's work here. Some of the images are very well done. But most could have been handled by a D500. I'm just searching to see some proof that anything this poster says is remotely accurate. "The Z9 is insanely more competent and capable than the D6 in all areas", really ? Instead of just saying it, how about proving it. I would be willing to wager that the vast majority of photographers who actually know what they're talking about would disagree. In fact, I've seen a few instances where actual competent, working photographers admit they switch back and forth. Am I the only one that's grown tired of all the hyperbole ?



Dec 17, 2022 at 02:28 PM
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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


moving trams at night are a bit easier to catch. no, they are not mustangs. shooting in low light at iso is easier handheld and without a shutter has no feeling of whatsoever of shooting. i shoot both DX/FX


Dec 17, 2022 at 02:48 PM
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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


You should move somewhere warmer, you insufferable old coot. I think long winters have addled your brain.

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Confirmation bias at it's finest. I just scrolled through the last 6 pages of the Z9 thread and try as I might, couldn't find one example to substantiate any of this gibberish. Anyone who thinks they need a Z9 to capture a sitting dog, pelicans in flight (one of the slowest moving birds), or pelicans floating in the water, really has no clue. I'm not disparaging anyone's work here. Some of the images are very well done. But most could have been handled by a D500. I'm just searching to see some proof that anything this poster says is remotely
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Dec 17, 2022 at 03:11 PM
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p.3 #15 · p.3 #15 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


that was uncalled for. if you don't like what is being said i suggest you find another way of expressing your dismay with more style and grace.

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Dec 17, 2022 at 03:14 PM
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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


sjms wrote:
moving trams at night are a bit easier to catch. no, they are not mustangs. shooting in low light at iso is easier handheld and without a shutter has no feeling of whatsoever of shooting. i shoot both DX/FX


To be clear going forward, if in fact there is any going forward; I have little doubt that there are clear advantages to a Z9 over pretty much anything else Nikon. It makes no sense to dispute that at this point as it's been rehashed over and over ad nauseam. But for people like this Roaming guy, and others, to continually make these ludicrous statements while offering absolutely zero evidence is just irksome. I'm sorry, but it all comes across as people who have gone out and spent a ton of $$, realized there's little to no benefit for their uses, but somehow want to deny that fact. As I've said numerous times, it's great that people are in a position to buy whatever they want if it makes them happy. But the question to ask is; why do they feel the need to make everyone else think they should do the same ? Just my worthless opinion.



Dec 17, 2022 at 03:15 PM
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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


like i told him other ways of expressing ones self with more style and grace or just back away from the keyboard and calm down and ignore.


Dec 17, 2022 at 03:20 PM
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RoamingScott wrote:
You should move somewhere warmer, you insufferable old coot. I think long winters have addled your brain.


Well, I can't argue with that. I thought you put me on your ignore list
BTW, is there any truth to the rumor that the Sony guys all chipped in to buy you a gift certificate to Nikon USA to get you to to switch systems and off their forums ?



Dec 17, 2022 at 03:20 PM
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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


unfortunately, now will there be the obligatory comeback?

possibly no



Dec 17, 2022 at 03:24 PM
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p.3 #20 · p.3 #20 · Once the Z9 becomes widely available (say late 2022), what do you think would be the resale value of a D6?


With a limited budget and the absence of requiring the best of autofocus, I have seen little to suggest the need to purchase a Z9. Happy to be convinced otherwise though. I'd certainly love to have one, but at this point I don't think I need one without shifting more time to birding or sports. I think the old saying that money is best spent on glass is still a good one....although I'm living proof that one can go overboard with that too.

I still look back at my D750 images and wonder if my current images are much better in many situations to be honest (aside from when I use better glass)....but I enjoy the mirrorless experience and wouldn't go back. The fact that I can enjoy the S lenses as well as the f-mount lenses is just icing on the cake.



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