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kuau wrote:
Not to beat a dead horse, though I just did my own "scientific" comparison between using the new Z400/2.8 with the TC engaged and added my Z1.4 TC compared to using no internal TC and using the Z2.0 TC and to me the results were clear. Using both the internal TC and the External Z1.4TC which gave me an effective focal length of 784mm yielded a sharper image to my surprise.

Z9 settings
AF-S Single point
2 second time delay

Heavy tripod..


Funny thing is Tom Hogan said the opposite. I'm happy with the internal and TC1.4 instead of attaching the 2x and limiting myself to a minimum 800mm. Of course it would depend on where I am I guess and what I'm shooting. Either way both work extremely well which adds to the value of this lens.



May 18, 2022 at 03:48 PM
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George DeCamp wrote:
Funny thing is Tom Hogan said the opposite. I'm happy with the internal and TC1.4 instead of attaching the 2x and limiting myself to a minimum 800mm. Of course it would depend on where I am and what I'm shooting. Either way both work extremely well which adds to the value of this lens.


I know I saw Tom's comparison also yet for me I got different results. I'm sure there are some other factors I didn't take into account yet I did multiple attempts and keep getting basically the same results




May 18, 2022 at 03:54 PM
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12markus12 wrote:
has anyone tested the Z 400mm 2.8 vs 600mm FL:

a) Z400 + internal TC vs. bare 600mm FL
b) Z400 + internal TC + external 1.4TC vs. 600mm FL + 1.4 TC III

I own the 600mm FL and I'm a bit "torn" (just a bit so far) whether to sell it in favor of a Z400mm and enjoy 3 lenses in one :-)
I mostly shoot birds actually so use the longer end probably 70-80%. Currently I grab the 600FL if I go out planning to shoot "seriously" for a couple of hours. For shorter walkaround tours or when I go with
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I don't have my 600/4e FL anymore but before I sold it, I compared it briefly to my 400/2.8S and personally, I find 600/4e FL sharper than 400/2.8S+ internal TC by a touch. You would need to look at 100% magnification to tell any difference though.
However, I find 400/2.8S + TCx2 sharper than 600/4e FL + TC14e iii and the difference is a bit more obvious.
Generally I use 600/4e FL with TC14e iii probably 50% of the time anyhow so you win some you lose some
but I also get 400/2.8 and the weight is much easier to manage than 600/4e FL.




May 18, 2022 at 05:28 PM
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kuau wrote:
Not to beat a dead horse, though I just did my own "scientific" comparison between using the new Z400/2.8 with the TC engaged and added my Z1.4 TC compared to using no internal TC and using the Z2.0 TC and to me the results were clear. Using both the internal TC and the External Z1.4TC which gave me an effective focal length of 784mm yielded a sharper image to my surprise.


Glad someone else is observing it as well. I also came to the conclusion that 2x 1.4 TC delivers better results than the 2.0 TC alone. They were very similar in the center but the corners were noticeably sharper with 2x 1.4.



May 19, 2022 at 12:12 AM
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12markus12 wrote:
thx - the tc2 image looks VERY soft...interesting that 2 converters in a row yield better iq than a single one.


Not if you look at it differently, namely that you put a 1.4 TC on a 560/4 prime lens! That's what makes this lens so special. The 400 E FL was already really good with converters, but I feel the Z 400/2.8 is even better, especially towards the edges. This is a big advantage for me, because I like to place my motive off-centre.



May 19, 2022 at 12:18 AM
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A few Hummingbird images from the back yard this morning!

Z9, 400/2.8TC








Ruby-throated Hummingbird on Firecracker plant







Ruby-throated Hummingbird on Firecracker plant







Ruby-throated Hummingbird on Firecracker plant




May 19, 2022 at 08:20 AM
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great captures, George. i'm a proud owner of a sony 600 but this lens has piqued my interest...and you aren't helping!

p.s. - send some of those hummers down here to Florida - thanks



May 19, 2022 at 10:52 AM
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Just took it some minutes ago in the backyard after the thunderstorm has passed. I think it is more than just a emergency solution to get more focal length.

2x 1.4TC, 784 mm, 1/200 sec, f/5.6, ISO 1250
https://photos.smugmug.com/Galerie/Nikon-Z-400-2-8-TC-VR-S/i-HzpLVHd/0/f86a50d3/X2/DSC_3838-X2.jpg


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https://photos.smugmug.com/Galerie/Nikon-Z-400-2-8-TC-VR-S/i-8zcpwpZ/0/837330f0/XL/DSC_3838%201-XL.jpg



May 19, 2022 at 11:04 AM
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jorjacman wrote:
great captures, George. i'm a proud owner of a sony 600 but this lens has piqued my interest...and you aren't helping!

p.s. - send some of those hummers down here to Florida - thanks


Ha! It's a great lens! Thank you! I'll take a Sony 600 as well!



May 19, 2022 at 11:23 AM
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NaturRosi wrote:
Just took it some minutes ago in the backyard after the thunderstorm has passed. I think it is more than just a emergency solution to get more focal length.

2x 1.4TC, 784 mm, 1/200 sec, f/5.6, ISO 1250


Crazy right? Excellent detail!



May 19, 2022 at 11:24 AM
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Just received today from Karl Zemlin my new hood, lens cap and Z9 replacement eye cup
Love Zemlin products














May 19, 2022 at 05:46 PM
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I got the lens caps for my 400 and 800 and the eye cup. He really did a really great job on these!

ps: That hood looks great!



May 19, 2022 at 06:20 PM
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Now just need lens coat to come out.


May 19, 2022 at 06:36 PM
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this is me wrote:
Now just need lens coat to come out.


Yep!! Scott (the owner of LensCoat) is a friend of mine and I've sent him my lenses in the past to use as a template. Can't send him a 14k lens though that's too risky for me. If I still lived in NY I'd drive over but I live in South Carolina now so too far! Hope he gets one soon! He has the 800pf coat coming any day.



May 19, 2022 at 06:44 PM
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I’m waiting on the 800pf lens coat!
The pain of getting the first batch of anything is you have to wait on accessories.



May 19, 2022 at 07:27 PM
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George DeCamp wrote:
Yep!! Scott (the owner of LensCoat) is a friend of mine and I've sent him my lenses in the past to use as a template. Can't send him a 14k lens though that's too risky for me. If I still lived in NY I'd drive over but I live in South Carolina now so too far! Hope he gets one soon! He has the 800pf coat coming any day.


LensCoat was begging me to send in my new Z400/2.8 yet I declined, just to risky to send a $14K lens for return a free LensCoat that costs $120 to purchase.

I hope someone who lives near the factory at let them measure the lens. I was told the 800 is done, and should be out pretty soon



May 19, 2022 at 09:07 PM
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kuau wrote:
LensCoat was begging me to send in my new Z400/2.8 yet I declined, just to risky to send a $14K lens for return a free LensCoat that costs $120 to purchase.

I hope someone who lives near the factory at let them measure the lens. I was told the 800 is done, and should be out pretty soon


That story sounds familiar! 🤣

Can't blame you either!!



May 20, 2022 at 12:01 AM
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I also bought both z9 eyecup and 400z and 800pf lense cap. Waiting on both lense and leanscoat , lol


May 20, 2022 at 12:11 AM
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One from this morning in the back yard.

This is our little girl Trixie, she's a Coton de Tulear

Z9, 400/2.8TC S, hand held









Air Trixie




May 21, 2022 at 09:00 AM
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A Humming bird too from this morning!

Z9, 400/2.8TC S






Ruby-throated Hummingbird on Firecracker plant




May 21, 2022 at 09:40 AM
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