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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


I would love to see one of these come along. Comments?


Apr 23, 2021 at 11:14 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


A longer FL lens (150 and up) also would be welcome. Hope, Cosina move away from the limited Leica FLs and take advantage of the modern tech available in Sony cams.


Apr 23, 2021 at 11:30 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


I hope so! Perhaps an even better version of their 90/3.5 APO?
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1626686/3#15096378



Apr 23, 2021 at 11:34 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


I'd like a small 200mm f4 lens.


Apr 23, 2021 at 12:02 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


nhsonyshooter wrote:
I'd like a small 200mm f4 lens.


We could settle for a CV 90/2.8 APO and CV 200/4 APO.



Apr 23, 2021 at 12:03 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


We can dream--but wouldn't a compact Sigma 90 or 100mm autofocus lens like the new 65 also be nice?


Apr 23, 2021 at 01:43 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


The old 180/4 APO is an excellent lens. The only thing I know about the 90mm APO is that many samples develop haze on internal elements. The main problem with older ( and current? ) Voigtlanders is finding someone to work on them if they fail.


Apr 23, 2021 at 03:06 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


sandycrane wrote:
The old 180/4 APO is an excellent lens. The only thing I know about the 90mm APO is that many samples develop haze on internal elements. The main problem with older ( and current? ) Voigtlanders is finding someone to work on them if they fail.


Yes, I have a 90 APO in LTM that has quite a bit of haze unfortunately. My 180/4 APO is excellent. Would love a modern version of both of these (though I would like a bit closer minimum focus distance on the 90).



Apr 23, 2021 at 03:27 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


Id also love s compact 200 apo. Would sell my 70-200 in a heartbeat


Apr 23, 2021 at 04:56 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


In general, CV certainly don't make lenses for Sony alone. They make variants of lenses so they can sell to both Leica M users and (sometimes) Sony users, in that order of priority. So if you hanker for a Sony 90mm, best to look at the M segment too.

To have appeal to the Leica M base, it would have to be f2. F2.8 will see it largely ignored, as a kind of poor man's knock-off of the 90/2.8 Elmarit and Summarits. They have been there before with slow 90mm lenses of course (DSLR), and those lenses are no longer for sale.

Lens speed is key to this market segment. As the shiny Leica f2 lenses roll off the design table to the assembly line, the chief is telling everyone: 'why stop down?'. And Leica offers many portrait length choices over 50mm, too many to list, in both M (and now two more in SL).

CV would be wasting their time on a slow 90mm for these people, especialy as they already sell a light 75mm at f1.5. Of the current 20 VM lenses, just one is longer than 50mm. Not very confidence inspiring!

Of the current 14 listed VE lenses, only two heavy macros are longer than 50mm. You might draw the conclusion that they have not shown much interest in portrait/general lenses. So temper those expectations accordingly, CV are literally non-performers here.

CV have just two highly favoured 'focal length sub-ranges' for both M and E: ultra-super wide angles: 10mm to 21mm; and the dreaded 'middle of the range': 35mm-50mm. The 28mm for M, a solitary 75mm and the afore-mentioned macros are the only exceptions. The macros aren't going to go so good on M cameras, and the other two are specifically M lenses.



Apr 23, 2021 at 06:00 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


Here is what they should be doing: Leica's M pairing of 75/2 APO and 90/2 APO are both simple design, old style lenses (7/5-430g and 5/5-500g respectively) with so-so performance wide open. They could not be more different from their newer lenses in SL and the recent 35/2 M APO. Yet both cost the usual king's ransom - around $5000.

That is an opening for CV, low hanging fruit if ever there was. Leica people would get a fabulous light option for around $1000, and Sony users would get the same, or better. The only non-adapted longer MF lens Sony users can buy at present is the $1400, near 600g, f2.4 Loxia. It has a very long ring rotation and was choked down to a 52mm filter. Not surprisingly, it's literally a real handful for non-posed portrait work.



Apr 23, 2021 at 06:01 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


kevphoto wrote:
Yes, I have a 90 APO in LTM that has quite a bit of haze unfortunately. My 180/4 APO is excellent. Would love a modern version of both of these (though I would like a bit closer minimum focus distance on the 90).


Closer focus would probably mean a larger lens. I like the 180mm because it is so tiny, even on the adapter. I would buy the 110mm APO today if it weren't so large.



Apr 24, 2021 at 06:56 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


I would prefer to have a 180/4 or even better a 200/4 APO.
My F mount 180/4 APO is certainly excellent if you can keep the internal elements clear of dust and stuff.



Apr 24, 2021 at 03:55 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


A 200/4 APO would be highest on my want list, mostly because I don’t believe any other company will make it. Maybe sigma might make an i-series 200/2.8. I think Voigtlander is our only hope to see truly awesome 200/4.
I would take a 90/2.8 as well.



Apr 24, 2021 at 07:25 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Is there a n APO Lanthar 90 in the works?


A Sony 200/4 GM OSS Macro might also behave apochromatically.


Apr 24, 2021 at 07:57 PM





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