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Congrats on the 35 apo Jim >>> Enjoy !!


Sep 23, 2023 at 04:16 PM
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one from the peak district in xpan format







Most of the X-Pan formats you see here were done with the Voigtlander APO's

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Sep 23, 2023 at 07:56 PM
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Sep 24, 2023 at 01:21 AM
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Intimate landscapes really test out detail rendition, colour separation and quality, light handling and here - water borne CA. You seem to see LoCA even when it is not there, purely based on expectations of it appearing. Anyway, two more both shot in low light nearing dusk. F8 and f9 removes performance and brings the strong ones back to the field as it were, leaving other virtues to shine.




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Sep 25, 2023 at 04:25 PM
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philip_pj wrote:
Intimate landscapes really test out detail rendition, colour separation and quality, light handling and here - water borne CA. You seem to see LoCA even when it is not there, purely based on expectations of it appearing. Anyway, two more both shot in low light nearing dusk. F8 and f9 removes performance and brings the strong ones back to the field as it were, leaving other virtues to shine.


Perfect lens for landscapes!



Sep 25, 2023 at 07:20 PM
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reza187 wrote:
I really want 135/2, but do not have it (yet).

I have Voigtlander 110mm, because a dealer offered me a price that was hard for me to refuse. I can say that I like the rendering, but my usage is still limited.
Now I plan to buy Voigtlander 65mm, and was thinking if I should get Voigtlander 35mm APO to make it a very nice lens kit with a good spacing of 35-65-110. However, I already have Zeiss 35mm f2.0 which I really like, and I'm not sure if I should make it a redundant by purchasing Voigtlander 35mm APO.

If you already
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About that 135 you want.....I assume its the Milvus? Heavy as a rock but the images are wonderful!

My kit is CV 21-35-65-110. I use the 21 and 65 more than the others, which is a shame really because all four of them deserve to be on the body.









Sep 26, 2023 at 06:59 AM
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reza187 wrote:
Interesting. Thanks for your comment.
We have the similar Zeiss line up: I also own (and love) 21/2.8, 35/2, 100/2. I also have 25/2, 50/2, which make it a very nice set up for landscape or portrait. I really want 135/2, but do not have it (yet).

I have Voigtlander 110mm, because a dealer offered me a price that was hard for me to refuse. I can say that I like the rendering, but my usage is still limited.
Now I plan to buy Voigtlander 65mm, and was thinking if I should get Voigtlander 35mm APO to make it a very nice lens
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I have been very happy with
35 CV Apo - 65 CV Apo - Batis 135
(very even spacing)

Im only pondering how to round this set off with a with a wide angle. Not found a solution yet.
(an 18mm mf lens would be my dream)




Sep 27, 2023 at 11:02 AM
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Sep 27, 2023 at 02:51 PM
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reza187 wrote:
Now, your answer makes me want that 35mm APO


I think the plots below will convince you to get the Apo Lanthar
As you can see, the MTF values @ 30 lp/mm and f/2 of the Apo Lanthar are higher than those of the Zeiss measured at *20* lp/mm! The Apo Lanthar MTF values at 40 lp/mm are significantly higher at both f/2 and f/4. MTF curves are flatter too, thus indicating a more even performance across the frame.
The plots refer to infinity focus.
For landscapes/cityscapes, the Voigtlander is preferable, definitely.





Sep 29, 2023 at 02:15 AM
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The 35/2 Distagon does punch above its weight and it's a fine lens. But MTF does not lie.
The situation is far more extreme when you look at the nearest competition: the new Leica APO-Summicron-M 35mm f/2 ASPH, to give it its full name. First, price: $8,295 against this CV lens at $949. Both are 'temporarily out of stock' at B&H, read into that what you will.

Cosina understand people want fine detail so they use 30lpmm in MTF rather than the 20lpmm and 40lpmm Leica use (out of 5-10-20-40). So, in the graph above for f4 you can quite accurately interpolate halfway between the top line pair and the second from top line pair (10+30)/2=20lpmm). Compare that with the Leica lens at 20lpmm shown below and you can see there is nothing between these two. Except that the Leica graph is for f5.6, and the Cosina graph is taken at f4. The M lens design is 'centre-weighted' so it's not intended for landscapes and I would not use one at f2-f2.8 for that purpose - too much drop-off of quality in outer frames.

The CV 35/2 is a better lens for critical mid-aperture work, all other things being equal. Leica made a very big deal out of the MFD of their 35/2 APO being 0.30m; the CV lens is 0.35m. I honestly think Cosina is sandbagging its APO lenses for EVF cameras so as to use the same design for M cameras. If they used a Sony/Otus level of complexity they would no longer be able to hide their expertise.

The GM 35/1.4 is a very modern 14/10 design, the Cosina lens is an 11/9, the Leica a radical 10/5 design to keep it small, but it's only 30 grams lighter than the Voigt 35/2 E. I won't even mention Cosina's recent breakthrough, the GA technology used in the 50/1, but I just did; let's hope it finds its way into future, more mainstream optics. A 28/2 APO would be a sensation because you could use wider apertures for images like the one of mine just above, which was taken at f10 and still retains excellent qualities.

Round apertures at f2.8, f5.6 and f16 plus IBIS would make a 28/2 APO an instant street competitor for the fixed lens cameras too (Q3). Does Leica own some share of Cosina? Most companies do the very best they can manage. And also, these people have the inside information of the Otus series that they themselves made.





Leica APO-Summicron-M 35mm f/2 ASPH at f5.6 (5-10-20-40lpmm)




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Oct 01, 2023 at 11:59 AM
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Oct 01, 2023 at 10:46 PM
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p.48 #13 · p.48 #13 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


It's nice to learn the tip from Fred about using f/11 to get sunstars on the 35 APO. I rather wish the sunstars were at f/8, but glad to get any at all. Thanks Fred!

(I could do without the rainbow "sensor dots" )




  ILCE-7RM4    Voigtlander APO-LANTHAR 35mm F2 Aspherical lens    35mm    f/11.0    1/60s    1250 ISO    -2.0 EV  




Oct 07, 2023 at 10:05 AM
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Gunzorro wrote:
It's nice to learn the tip from Fred about using f/11 to get sunstars on the 35 APO. I rather wish the sunstars were at f/8, but glad to get any at all. Thanks Fred!
(I could do without the rainbow "sensor dots" )


What I really like about the sunstars of the 35 APO is that I can make a deliberate choice whether I want to have sunstars in an image or not and what quality the sunstars should have. I'm not the biggest fan of sunstars per se, because they sould catch too much attention, which is not always intended. Sometimes they work, and sometimes not.

Here's a test-series with sunstars from f2.0 to f11 in a night scene.

The full scene at f4.0 (my favorite aperture with the 35 APO when I want nice, but unobrusive sunstars):





Sunstars at f2.0 (cropped):





Sunstars at f2.8 (cropped):





Sunstars at f4.0 (cropped):





Sunstars at f5.6 (cropped):





Sunstars at f8.0 (cropped):





Sunstars at f11 (cropped):







Oct 07, 2023 at 12:06 PM
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In this scene I liked the sunstars at f11 the best:







Oct 07, 2023 at 12:08 PM
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I just got mine for Nikon Z mount. I've only had a chance to take some quick test shots around my office, but it's just a razor corner to corner in pretty much every situation. Really impressed with this little lens from the test shots I've taken, and I'm excited to get out and shoot with it! The focus confirmation in Nikon cameras works perfectly with this, and when it turns green in the EVF, it's dead on in focus. Going to make it very easy to focus this on the fly.


Oct 07, 2023 at 01:02 PM
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Jman13 wrote:
I just got mine for Nikon Z mount. I've only had a chance to take some quick test shots around my office, but it's just a razor corner to corner in pretty much every situation. Really impressed with this little lens from the test shots I've taken, and I'm excited to get out and shoot with it! The focus confirmation in Nikon cameras works perfectly with this, and when it turns green in the EVF, it's dead on in focus. Going to make it very easy to focus this on the fly.


I fully agree with you about this lens on Nikon Z bodies. For me, the green focus confirmation is more efficient to use than focus peaking or punching in focus adjustment. I have been using it that way for my older Z7, the focus accuracy is almost perfect.



Oct 07, 2023 at 02:51 PM
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p.48 #18 · p.48 #18 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


I just so happened to take these shots at f/11 on my Leica M11. I didn't realize that this aperture is the sweet spot for sunstars although, they are quite large. Love this lens and its corner to corner sharpness. And while I posted these in B&W, I love the colors it produces.











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Oct 07, 2023 at 05:54 PM
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ocean2059, thanks for posting that! I thought the focus box changing color was just a Z7.2 feature, but your comment made me check and realize my firmware was old. Nikon snuck in that feature without me realizing.

It's definitely better for a moving target than magnification, and nicer than peaking to use (I don't like how peaking clutters the composition).



Oct 07, 2023 at 05:54 PM
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APO-Lanthar 35/2 + Nikon Z7



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