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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · E-M1X+150-400 and Sony A1+200-600

Why use a tc on the Sony? Just shoot in crop mode for the same mp as the Olympus. Then you have 900mm vs 1000. The difference of course is in the autofocus(with bird eye) of the A1 for birds in flight, no blackout, silent shooting. For stationary they should be similar.

I once took both the g9 and panasonic 100-400 along with the a9 and the 100-400 on a trip to Hokkaido for nature. Whether it was close semi macro or birds, I enjoyed the a9 images more and ended up selling the g9. Also, being completely silent in nature allowed wildlife to get super close to me.

Apr 25, 2021 at 01:16 AM

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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · E-M1X+150-400 and Sony A1+200-600

@shadow9d9 - for rapidly moving BIF, I've had more success in cropping the full 50MP A1 image. If I shoot in crop mode, clipped wings can be a problem. I prefer the wider FF view for BIF. For static perched birds, shooting in cropped mode is ok.

Clipped wings from BIF also happens with m43 bodies too, thats why the rumored 30+MP m43 sensor in the next-gen OMD body would be welcome for more cropping options. In particular, it would enable more cropping options when using ProCapture (if only Sony would implement ProCapture!).

FYI, bird eye detection on the M1X is similar to the Sony A1 (tho tracking is probably better on the A1). And silent electronic shutter is available on all mirrorless bodies.

EDIT: also, with the 150-400, my default configuration is to use an external 1.4x for 1120mm equivalent at the long-end. When the 1.25x internal extender is added, it gives 1400mm equivalent (but no longer hand-holdable). And on the 200-600, like others, I've found the AF speed to really suffer when using the 2x extender.

Apr 25, 2021 at 02:23 AM

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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · E-M1X+150-400 and Sony A1+200-600

shadow9d9 wrote:
I once took both the g9 and panasonic 100-400 along with the a9 and the 100-400 on a trip to Hokkaido for nature. Whether it was close semi macro or birds, I enjoyed the a9 images more and ended up selling the g9. Also, being completely silent in nature allowed wildlife to get super close to me.

I've found that the big white Sony lenses scare off the local birds long before they get to hear the shutter sounds... although I can always set the G9 to silent shutter if need be.

Edited on Apr 30, 2021 at 03:54 PM · View previous versions

Apr 30, 2021 at 11:47 AM

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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · E-M1X+150-400 and Sony A1+200-600

molson wrote "Unfortunately, the bird eye detect doesn't work in silnet shutter mode on the E-M1X."

any ideas as to why (and how) you've found this to be the case?

Apr 30, 2021 at 12:21 PM

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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · E-M1X+150-400 and Sony A1+200-600

Paul_100A wrote:
molson wrote "Unfortunately, the bird eye detect doesn't work in silnet shutter mode on the E-M1X."

any ideas as to why (and how) you've found this to be the case?

Switching to silent shutter disables the feature. You would have to ask Olympus why this is...

Apr 30, 2021 at 01:36 PM

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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · E-M1X+150-400 and Sony A1+200-600

molson wrote:
Switching to silent shutter disables the feature. You would have to ask Olympus why this is...

It doesn't on my EM1X .....

Apr 30, 2021 at 02:18 PM

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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · E-M1X+150-400 and Sony A1+200-600

bengeo wrote:
It doesn't on my EM1X .....

i only use e-shutter on my EM1X and i've been using Bird Ai since day 1.

Apr 30, 2021 at 02:43 PM

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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · E-M1X+150-400 and Sony A1+200-600

bengeo wrote:
It doesn't on my EM1X .....

Mine appeared to shut it off when I switched drive modes yesterday, but I must have inadvertently changed something else because I couldn't replicate the issue just now. I thought I had read somewhere that there were drive speed limitations with the Bird AI, so I assumed that's what was happening. In this case, I'm quite happy to be wrong.

Apr 30, 2021 at 03:44 PM

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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · E-M1X+150-400 and Sony A1+200-600

Would you mind sharing your menu AF settings for both cameras ? It would be very useful in evaluating your results. Thanks !

May 26, 2021 at 11:26 PM

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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · E-M1X+150-400 and Sony A1+200-600

Thank you for this comparision! It's exactly what i have been looking for! Both combinations are to expensive for me right now but have been reealy intrested in how they compare as an ovner of both a m43 and a sony system!

Jun 02, 2021 at 02:48 PM

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