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p.7 #1 · homemade macro solution


Yes, the Canon is great, I would love to ask my friend to give his 35-80mm for me next week. The distance is very close about 1 inch - 2 inch.

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Feb 16, 2005 at 03:29 PM
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p.7 #2 · homemade macro solution


Updated: Canon 18-55mm EF-S is not working, I opened it. I think the EF-S front and read element is too far so basically, you have no working distance.

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Feb 16, 2005 at 04:34 PM
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p.7 #3 · homemade macro solution


I'll have a go at shedding some light on why this sort of mod would work, from what I can recall of physics from school:

- A lens will diverge light if it is thicker at the edges than in the middle.

- A lens will converge light if it is thicker in the middle than at the edges.

So, for example, people who are short-sighted need diverging lenses in their spectacles, because their eyes focus too close.

To focus closer, what you need is more converging power, so the elements to remove ought to be diverging elements, i.e. anything that is thicker at the edge than in the middle. From the 18-55 diagram, I would try removing the group that is in front of the rear-most group, if that is possible, as that is a diverging group.



Feb 16, 2005 at 05:01 PM
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p.7 #4 · homemade macro solution


Hi all, I just came across this really interesting thread. Been trying to look up info about reverse macro for quite a while. I'm planning to create a simple reverse macro setup by getting a 52-52 reverse mounting ring. On the body will be a EF 135 F2.8 SF lens, and on the other end, I'm gonna attach a EF 50 F1.8 II. Will this setup result in any vignetting?


Feb 17, 2005 at 11:18 PM
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p.7 #5 · homemade macro solution


going 135-50 shouldn't vignette. It's when you go short to long. Not sure why, optics has sparked an interesting nerve in the noggin lately...

I tried this settup on my 85 1.8, and coupled to a 50 1.4. It works great, auto focus works too, of course only on the attached body lens.

Steve, someone on this thread modded an 18-55 for close focus. Not the fellow with an attached, reversed 50, but someone actually cracked it open. He had some problems getting working room, but got it to work. I suggested though that he look into working the rear portion of the optics, your speculation may be correct. I think that lens works its magic from the rear.



Feb 18, 2005 at 02:19 AM
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p.7 #6 · homemade macro solution


Thanks bellyface.. Appereciate the advice.. i guess I'll give it a try by handholding the lens in front of each other before forking out the cash for the ring and the EF 135..


Feb 18, 2005 at 05:52 AM
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p.7 #7 · homemade macro solution


Recent work with the 35-70.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/toonhorse/tulip2.jpg




Feb 20, 2005 at 09:24 PM
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p.7 #8 · homemade macro solution


friggin amazing... I'm going outside tomorrow. been nice lately. so far all my extreme closeups have been indoors...


Feb 20, 2005 at 10:14 PM
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p.7 #9 · homemade macro solution


Couldn't find a cheap 35-80 or similar on ePay Germany, so I ordered a coupling ring to reverse another lens onto my 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM. The day after I placed the order, I got some unexpected money for my work, so I ordered a set of extension rings as well... 8) I should have both in my hands by Wednesday. BTW, the coupling ring (58mm threads) costs just 15 Euros new (from Heliopan).

When I look through my viewfinder, the reversed 50mm f/1.8 vignettes just a little. The reversed 24mm f/2.8 vignettes like crazy, however. I guess I need to couple this approach with an extension ring to get rid of the vignetting. I checked with a ruler last night, and the 100 + reversed 50 gives me nearly 3:1, the reversed 24 goes beyond 5:1. Add extension to get rid of the vignetting, and we're talking about some real magnification...

Since I use a full-frame camera (analog!), your vignetting mileage may vary.



Feb 21, 2005 at 03:17 AM
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*off topic

Dang my uncalibrated monitors. At home (15" LCD) the image looks awesome, sharp, contrasty, etc. At work on a 21" flat screen (CRT) it looks very muted, like it needs a boost in saturation or something. Does it look muted to you guys? I can't afford the calibration systems right now so I'm trying to determine which monitor is closer to the "truth" so to speak.



Feb 21, 2005 at 09:43 AM
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p.7 #11 · homemade macro solution


Isaac, LCDs show more accurate colors, CRTs have a bunch of factors that can change your image. Try opening the image in a web browser and photoshop and see them side by side, you'll notice even browsers can show images differently. But I can tell you your photos look amazing!

no muted colors by any means!



Feb 21, 2005 at 10:46 AM
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p.7 #12 · homemade macro solution


Hello all

A friend pointed this thread out to me and I just had to sign up! Bravo, what an excellent discovery!


Will this work with an EF 35-70 F/3.5~4.5 Mk1? Is the front element on this lense clipped or screwed?



Feb 25, 2005 at 09:20 AM
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p.7 #13 · homemade macro solution


I think someone worked a 35-70 earlier in the thread. The images look sharper too.


Feb 25, 2005 at 11:56 AM
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p.7 #14 · homemade macro solution


I have the 35-70 mk1. The front element was screwed on, but it involved some wiggling and some broken plastic, so I'm not sure I was very elegant about it. Earlier in this thread I posted a picture of the disassembled lens. maybe this will help you. maybe it won't. It seems pretty sharp to me for macro use.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/toonhorse/tulip3_frame.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/toonhorse/tulip4_frame.jpg



Feb 25, 2005 at 12:03 PM
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p.7 #15 · homemade macro solution


Thanks, I think I'll go ahead and get it.

Will post results early next week!



Feb 25, 2005 at 12:04 PM
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p.7 #16 · homemade macro solution


toonhorse, the clarity of those shots is very impressive!


Feb 25, 2005 at 12:07 PM
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p.7 #17 · homemade macro solution


2 words. THIS ROCKS!



Feb 25, 2005 at 12:42 PM
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p.7 #18 · homemade macro solution


Good luck KuniD. Let us know how it goes.


Feb 25, 2005 at 01:06 PM
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p.7 #19 · homemade macro solution


bored at work one night. took off the front element of my 35-80
(screws were a PITA)
front element and the aforementioned screws
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/kro-magnon/IMG_2633.jpg



Feb 25, 2005 at 01:25 PM
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p.7 #20 · homemade macro solution


I think I'll be looking for a 35-70, or even a 28-70 (old style)


Feb 26, 2005 at 03:58 PM
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