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sander9t wrote:
A few more wide open shots on Sony. I think the swirls have something to do with field curvature as well. The Sony thick sensor might amplify the swirl effect. Don't know if Leica sensor will look different.

Color of the Season by Sander Li, on Flickr

Color of the Season by Sander Li, on Flickr

Color of the season by Sander Li, on Flickr


Lovely colors!



Jan 20, 2024 at 07:20 PM
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p.19 #2 · p.19 #2 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


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Lovely colors!


Thanks Fred!




Jan 20, 2024 at 07:28 PM
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p.19 #3 · p.19 #3 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


Admit did not read entire thread, but has anyone tried this lens, MC or SC, on an SL2S or SL2? Thanks.


Jan 21, 2024 at 10:51 AM
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p.19 #4 · p.19 #4 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


wow love the detailed review of the lens, would definitely use the affiliated link if I decide to buy one


Jan 30, 2024 at 11:07 AM
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Jan 30, 2024 at 03:14 PM
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p.19 #6 · p.19 #6 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


How are people 6bit coding this lens, as a 50lux?


Jan 30, 2024 at 08:17 PM
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p.19 #7 · p.19 #7 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


robsonj, I don't use a Leica 6 bit coding for my 50/1.5 II and unless you use Jpegs I recommend you do the same. A Leica 6 bit code by its nature is an inaccurate lens profile meant for a totally different Leica lens. I turn my M body lens detection to "off" and in post rely on the Adobe raw lens profile specifically designed for the Voigtlander 50/1.5 II to process the images.


Jan 31, 2024 at 01:03 PM
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p.19 #8 · p.19 #8 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


goodbokeh wrote:
robsonj, I don't use a Leica 6 bit coding for my 50/1.5 II and unless you use Jpegs I recommend you do the same. A Leica 6 bit code by its nature is an inaccurate lens profile meant for a totally different Leica lens. I turn my M body lens detection to "off" and in post rely on the Adobe raw lens profile specifically designed for the Voigtlander 50/1.5 II to process the images.


On the other hand, setting a profile is a useful aid memoir that a 50mm was used.



Feb 01, 2024 at 06:18 AM
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sander9t wrote:
A few more wide open shots on Sony. I think the swirls have something to do with field curvature as well. The Sony thick sensor might amplify the swirl effect. Don't know if Leica sensor will look different.


I have the older LTM version and it does swirl on M11. It's definitely smoother than your sample photos though.

Not sure if the optical formula is identical but I think so.



Feb 04, 2024 at 10:51 AM
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tommmi wrote:
I have the older LTM version and it does swirl on M11. It's definitely smoother than your sample photos though.

Not sure if the optical formula is identical but I think so.


The old CV 50/1.5 LTM lens has 6 elements in 5 groups and the current 50/1.5 VM II has 8 in 7 groups, they are not the same exact optical formula.

The old version's info can be found here:
https://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/archives/index.html

It's found in the L-mount Standard & Tele document.



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p.19 #11 · p.19 #11 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


Thanks for the discussion on Leica M bodies.

VM II does have a different optical design with 2 additional elements.

tommmi wrote:
I have the older LTM version and it does swirl on M11. It's definitely smoother than your sample photos though.

Not sure if the optical formula is identical but I think so.





Feb 04, 2024 at 01:50 PM
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p.19 #12 · p.19 #12 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


Juha Kannisto wrote:
The old CV 50/1.5 LTM lens has 6 elements in 5 groups and the current 50/1.5 VM II has 8 in 7 groups, they are not the same exact optical formula.

The old version's info can be found here:
https://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/archives/index.html

It's found in the L-mount Standard & Tele document.


Thanks for the link! Saved that for future needs



Feb 05, 2024 at 08:27 AM
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tommmi wrote:
Thanks for the link! Saved that for future needs


Thanks! That archive is an interesting page. It's an orphaned part of Cosina's old website that has no links to it from their current website, but it's still kept alive for the time being. Everything else from their old website was gone (or adapted / included in the new site) when the new website appeared a couple of years ago. I'm not sure if those archives will be kept there for a long time to come but so far so good



Feb 05, 2024 at 09:45 AM
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p.19 #14 · p.19 #14 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


Any chance that this lens is about to get a design refresh ?
Closer focus and/or cosmetic update ?

B&H and Map camera are out of stock and Cameraquest is discounting.



Feb 10, 2024 at 05:14 PM
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p.19 #15 · p.19 #15 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


yeah noticed this as well, this lens is hard to find anywhere


Mar 20, 2024 at 11:50 PM
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FrozenInTime wrote:
Any chance that this lens is about to get a design refresh ?
Closer focus and/or cosmetic update ?

B&H and Map camera are out of stock and Cameraquest is discounting.


I think if there was a design refresh, Cosina would discontinue current version II and release it as a new version III. However, since they pre-announced two other 50mm VM lenses at CP+, I think they would not bring out another new 50mm VM lens this year. Their lenses tend to run out of stock periodically since they do low volume production runs of their large lens catalog cyclically. There are also many others from their lineup that are out of stock at Map Camera currently...



Mar 21, 2024 at 12:36 AM
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p.19 #17 · p.19 #17 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


I would be curious to see more samples of the S.C. version that would exhibit flares and veils or just backlit objects in the scenes.
I found when reading Fredís review the difference between the M.C. and S.C. in rendering quite striking when playing with light and in favor of the S.C. version.



Apr 02, 2024 at 06:41 AM
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Sonnar-7 wrote:
I would be curious to see more samples of the S.C. version that would exhibit flares and veils or just backlit objects in the scenes.
I found when reading Fredís review the difference between the M.C. and S.C. in rendering quite striking when playing with light and in favor of the S.C. version.


The quality of CVís single coating (at least on the two lenses I have - 35/1.4 ver 1 and the 50/1.5 ver 2) is quite goodÖprobably more comparable to 70ís/80ís multi-coating. The amount of flare is pretty minimal (compared to other modern single coated optics, like LLL).



Apr 02, 2024 at 08:51 AM
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p.19 #19 · p.19 #19 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


It's honestly hard to excite that much flaring in the 50/1.5 SC...

Silvershot Vineyards by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Silvershot Vineyards by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Silvershot Vineyards by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

And a comparison with another modern-made single-coated lens the LLL '1966' (both at f/2.8)...LLL is in color, so not a perfect comparison, but you can see that it flares more.

Silvershot Vineyards by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Pinot Noir Vine by Jim Fischer, on Flickr




Apr 02, 2024 at 09:14 AM
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p.19 #20 · p.19 #20 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II Aspherical Review


_jim_ wrote:
The quality of CVís single coating (at least on the two lenses I have - 35/1.4 ver 1 and the 50/1.5 ver 2) is quite goodÖprobably more comparable to 70ís/80ís multi-coating. The amount of flare is pretty minimal (compared to other modern single coated optics, like LLL).


Yeah, the single coating from my Ultron 75 1.9 is more efficient than I would have liked but I can still manage to produce some colored rings and some pleasant veils, but not that easily.
The single coating of the Heliar Classic 50 1.5 let me do the same far more easily. I donít know if they are the same or if itís due to the optical formula and the glass.
Iím surprised the 35/1.4 would not flare more, I thought it was one of its famous traits. It was one of the main reasons I wanted to buy one(maybe the second version) to produce those orange rings.

Regarding the 50mm 1.5 II S.C., I noticed in Fredís examples that the colors were far more pleasing with some backlit objects, it gave some variation in the shadows more true to perceived reality and more filmic or cinematic of sort.

Thanks for all the samples! I like that Voigtlander sometimes gives that choice in lenses, I wish they would not abandon that.

The LLL 50mm 1.2 looks like my dream lens.



Apr 02, 2024 at 09:35 AM
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