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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

Here are some photos I took during travel through Glacier, Yellowstone National Parks, and just generally traveling around the areas. The colors the first week of October was gorgeous. I was going to Utah, but heard they were past-prime so I headed north and it was not disappointing. More to follow!

Comments welcome. Thanks for looking.
Bill

Photo 1: Prospector's Cabin (lens - Leica Elmarit-R 28mm F/2.8, F-stop 5.6)

Photo 2: Tree in prime with blue sky

Photos 3: White Dome Geyser on Firehole Lake Drive, Yellowstone Natl. Park

Photo 4: Yellowstone River with fall color. A bald eagle was seen moments later, but had the wrong lens with me.

Photo 5: Tree Trunk, taken in high-Infrared (830nm)

Photo 6: Glacier National Park, Montana (Lens - Leica Elmarit-R 28mm F/2.8, F-stop 5.6)

Edited on Oct 15, 2020 at 12:32 PM · View previous versions

Oct 15, 2020 at 05:33 AM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

Just beautiful Bill!!! Sharp, detailed, very colorful!
Makes me wonder what it would be like to have lived in that house! I believe I would have liked it despite the ruggedness!
Beautiful!
Dan

Oct 15, 2020 at 09:42 AM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

Nice scenic view, possibly too sharp.

Oct 15, 2020 at 12:45 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

They are just awesome set of pictures!

-John

Oct 15, 2020 at 02:46 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

Beautiful set. Glacier is one of my favorite National Parks. Love the old cabin. Must be a story behind that. The last photograph has a nice composition of water, foliage, and interesting clouds. That would make for a nice panoramic if you took overlapping shots. Now you have a reason to return next year

Oct 15, 2020 at 04:52 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

BlueRidge wrote:
Beautiful set. Glacier is one of my favorite National Parks. Love the old cabin. Must be a story behind that. The last photograph has a nice composition of water, foliage, and interesting clouds. That would make for a nice panoramic if you took overlapping shots. Now you have a reason to return next year

Thanks very much for the kind comments. Funny enough, I did overlapping shots so I could create a very long panoramic photo when I have some time. The lake-shot was one of those overlapping shots, I just figured i wanted to do a 11.5 x 6 mini-panoramic and see what people thought. Also, even with Photoshop, I don't always get the best results, but I have all the shots to do a huge panoramic. I also did one with many-many shots at Grand Tetons which may be fantastic because it will be a high MP Photo.

I have many more fall foliage photos from this trip, but I think I'm headed to the Eastern Sierras this weekend for one last photo-shoot so I'll have a lot to work on this winter.

Thanks again,
Bill

Oct 15, 2020 at 07:08 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

junglialoh wrote:
Nice scenic view, possibly too sharp.

Thanks for commenting. I'm wondering which ones do you think are too sharp? I think the cabin photo may be too sharp and maybe the river shot, but sometimes it's hard to call it.
The colors are real.
Thanks again,
Bill

Oct 15, 2020 at 07:13 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

Very nice set👍🏻

Oct 16, 2020 at 10:29 AM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

I'm sorry, but inquiring minds would like to know:

Why are you shooting landscapes @ F2.8 ? Shouldn't be lower than F8 at minimum. Biggest reason most are over exposed.

I agree with above statement, all of them are over sharpened. Because you used such an open aperture to capture a landscape, you had to sharpen them. Shouldn't really have to do any sharpening in a landscape shot.

#2 and #5, not as much, but #3 and #4 are way overexposed.

Last one looks like it was taken with a point and shoot. Background is all grainy and JUST in focus.

These are too over processed as well. Everything looks to 'hard'. This is where the over sharpening comes into play, can see clear contrast lines around everything and the colours not in front are mushy, grainy and pixeled.

Oct 16, 2020 at 12:32 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

Are these all in auto?

I'd figure out how to shoot manual and control the exposure better. Over-exposed.

Processing is way too rough. Over sharpened/contrasted. Shouldn't need anymore than ISO100 in situations like those.

I'd also put more thought into what you want to be in focus.

Not trying to be a bastard, just pointing out where you can improve. (because you do have a nice camera setup -- can get a lot more out of it)

Oct 16, 2020 at 03:56 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

nice lookin set Bill

Oct 17, 2020 at 02:25 AM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

V.Stiles wrote:
I'm sorry, but inquiring minds would like to know:

Why are you shooting landscapes @ F2.8 ? Shouldn't be lower than F8 at minimum. Biggest reason most are over exposed.

I agree with above statement, all of them are over sharpened. Because you used such an open aperture to capture a landscape, you had to sharpen them. Shouldn't really have to do any sharpening in a landscape shot.

#2 and #5, not as much, but #3 and #4 are way overexposed.

Last one looks like it was taken with a point and shoot. Background is all grainy and JUST in focus.

These are too...Show more →

Stiles,
I don't think of any of them as being "overexposed" just some are over-sharp.
#3 was shot during the mid-day sun and it was just plain bright. I could have reduced the brightness of the photo in post, but that would have reduced the intensity of the colors around the geyser cone and also some of the colors on the hill leading up to the cone and that was what I thought made the photo attractive. The soil is travertine and travertine is a pure bright white salt! Also, the more I toned it down, the more I lost the steam from the geyser. It's hard to show steam during a bright day. I could have burned it in I guess but I'm not that sophisticated with Photoshop to do burn-ins yet. I'm still trying to master the Brush.

For photo #4, the photo is probably about 1 stop brighter than the real scene, but I did this to enhance the bottom of the stream, the wood grain on the log in front, and the colors of the grasses. I didn't think the sky was overly over-exposed. As for grain, perhaps there's grain because it is over-exposed?

However, thanks for your comments. I'll play with the focus and exposure and re-post. Also, the Infrared B&W photo I'm still trying to figure that camera out because I have to set the exposure in the camera 3-5 stops over, otherwise, even 2 stop over the photos are black. I had a recent class with the guy who does teaching for LifePixel so that's a whole different thing.

I assume when you say "last photo" you are not talking about photo #6, looking like it was taken with a point & shoot, but rather #4?
Bill

Oct 18, 2020 at 04:20 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Fall colors in Glacier, Yellowstone, and general areas first week of Oct.

Given what some of you said, I re-did some of these photos in post. Other than cropping, I started from scratch and re-exposed and re-focused.

Just for clarification, I used a traditional 25mm Zeiss Distagon T* F/2 ZE lens (for Canon) and this is my second version of the same lens. Both of this same lens I had seem to expose in either Shutter priority or Exposure priority modes as being a bit bright. I believe Zeiss lenses are known for being "bright" but this particular series seems to also over-expose photos by around 1 stop. I'm guessing I should change the setting in the camera when I use this lens so it exposes photos 1 stop darker.. BOTH photo received exactly the same increase in focus in LR. The geyser photo looks normal sharp, but the Yellowstone River photo still looks a little over-focused. However, when compared to the original (last photo) raw photo, that small amount of focus in LR increased the net focus a lot.

The ISO I used was mostly 100, but the lighting was such that had to use a wider F-stop in order to keep the ISO lower (less grain) and still have a shutter speed above 1/125. I notice that with the Canon 5DSR, grain increases at a lower ISO than on a lower MP camera like the 6D so an ISO of 400 to be able to have an F/8 (increase sharpness) and still not have to use tripod, increases grain quite a bit compared to the 6D I have.

Your comments welcome.
Thanks.
Bill

Photo Redo 4: Less sharpness, lowered exposures

Photo Redo 3: Also less sharpness and lowered exposures

ORIGINAL Raw Photo straight out of the camera, minus minor cropping

Oct 19, 2020 at 05:19 AM


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