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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Help...How To Shoot a Model in the Moonlight


I have been asked to take some shots under the moonlight and not sure exactly how easily it can be done. Any suggestions? I am a Nikon guy with a D4, D810, D500, and 35/1.8, 50/1.8, 50-100/1.8, 700-200 2.8 for applicable gear. My 24-70 is out of service at the moment.

Thanks for any insight.



Jul 29, 2020 at 08:22 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Help...How To Shoot a Model in the Moonlight


If they want the model to actually be lit by the moonlight (rather than using lights to fake it) I don't think there are any shortcuts.
Full moon, high ISO, fast lens, tripod, and maybe a sedative for the model. On the + side, I've been in Winthrop on a full moon and, wow.



Jul 29, 2020 at 01:05 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Help...How To Shoot a Model in the Moonlight


Yes, no flash, model lit by the moon. Looks like some test shots with the D4 at f/1.8 and see what shutter/ISO turn out to be.

Has anyone actually done this?



Jul 29, 2020 at 03:23 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Help...How To Shoot a Model in the Moonlight


Definitely possible, though challenging due to high ISO and long exposures that would be required. But, the biggest issue, is that the moon is still a single point-like light source. Shooting under a high midnight moon doesn't seem like it would be that different than shooting under bright noon-day sun with a cloudless sky: hard light, only offset by light bouncing off of the surroundings.

If you really choose to go this route, you'll have to think about how you're going to position the model to get light on her face (or whatever parts of her you want to have lit). Maybe consider large white surfaces nearby, like large foldable v-flats or some carefully positioned large reflectors.

I'm guessing you're going to try to capture some of the surroundings or sky or moon as part of this image, right? Otherwise I can't see the insistence on natural moonlight, if you weren't also trying to capture some natural surroundings (or the moon) in the image along with the model. I ask, only to gauge your familiarity with shooting at night or with astro landscape shooting. If you're not that familiar, you should probably read around to come up to speed on techniques and general tips on the topic, and to look at some images to get an idea of how you want yours to look. You'll probably find there are a lot of post processing tricks that help achieve some of the more dramatic (as well as some of the more natural looking) results. Also, there is a fair amount of - let's provocatively call it - "trickery" with a lot of people using light painting and merging dusk/dawn/twilight shots of foreground with later shots of sky.

It seems like it might just be easier to use artificial light and control it carefully to give off the illusion of natural light, if the goal is to snap one single picture.



Jul 29, 2020 at 05:02 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Help...How To Shoot a Model in the Moonlight


1- If it is for a commercial shoot and you wish to have the moon with the model in the frame. It will be a composite image.

Mark the spot or spots where the model will be placed and shoot the moon and B/G without the model and with the model.

The model lighting is a soft box or umbrella and gold reflectors.

Color temp over 6000k.

The shot will be a composite. Alternatively, depending on your skill and luck levels, you could try to get the effect in one shot but.....

2- Artistic shoot. You still need to light the face with a stobe and modifiers followed by retouching. Or you end up with a silhouette shot.

Camera and lens and support type is irrelevant although I would use a high megapixel body and a fast prime and the lowest ISO possible for a clean composite......you are on a tripod anyway....

The effective way whether Commercial or Artistic is a composite image.


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Jul 30, 2020 at 08:08 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Help...How To Shoot a Model in the Moonlight


You can't get the moon in the shot with the model. The moon is ALWAYS at high noon thus needs sunny 16.
If you expose for the moon the model will be a silhouette!
The moon will HAVE to be in front of the model to be used as a light source and out of the pic. If you expose for the model the moon will be a blown-out blob.
OR you could use a reflector(or two), to add the light in and sculpt with it.
Then there is the clothes, the color and amount of exposure and visibility.
Use strobes with a slight blue gel to give the the illusion of moonlight and drag the shutter for environment and stop fretting! LoL
John



Jul 30, 2020 at 11:51 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Help...How To Shoot a Model in the Moonlight


Have they shown you any examples they may have found on the web?
They may be trying to emulate some image and don't realize there was other lighting involved.



Aug 01, 2020 at 12:07 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Help...How To Shoot a Model in the Moonlight


All it takes is a tripod, and a model that can hold still for a few seconds.
I mean, think about it ... folks used to sit for a LONG TIME to get their portraits taken.

I shot some things like this using chrome film years ago. If it can be done on chrome, ASA 50 ... you can do it, too. Just gotta get your head in the right place for it. I'd just use the sensor that has the cleanest ability to lift shadows, so you can underexpose and keep shutter speeds a stop or so faster. Today's sensors can take dark and PP make it daylight (not that you'll want the daylight look necessarily).

Just go do some "selfie" test shots in the moonlight BEFORE working with the model and you'll get a feel for balancing ss speed with ability to hold still vs. ISO vs. PP lift ability.

Good luck, enjoy and can't wait to see the pics.

P.S. No caffeine for the model.



Aug 01, 2020 at 02:36 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Help...How To Shoot a Model in the Moonlight




saaketham wrote:
Have they shown you any examples they may have found on the web?
They may be trying to emulate some image and don't realize there was other lighting involved.


I agree with this. If you're talking about a customer, they should probably show you some examples of what they have in mind. It's possible - perhaps, likely - that they don't realize these examples might have artificial light or be the results of compositing.

Asking to see examples might save you a lot of headache and save them from being disappointed by what a natural nighttime portrait might really look like (and thus blame you for the failure).



Aug 01, 2020 at 08:23 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Help...How To Shoot a Model in the Moonlight


Thank you everyone for your input....I'm going to give it a shot. I really appreciate it!


Aug 04, 2020 at 09:58 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Help...How To Shoot a Model in the Moonlight


EliJoe1 wrote:
Thank you everyone for your input....I'm going to give it a shot. I really appreciate it!


If you could be so kind, I wouldn't mind seeing what you come up with. Please make a post when you have it!



Aug 05, 2020 at 01:44 PM





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