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EOS R5 with the Canon EF 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 II

Jul 18, 2020 at 09:36 AM

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Pius Sullivan wrote:

EOS R5 with the Canon EF 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 II

That has been out for a day or so. At first I wondered I that was actually a 100-400 because the lens was OOF but you can see it is because of the foot.

Jul 18, 2020 at 09:41 AM

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Jul 18, 2020 at 12:36 PM

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Pius Sullivan wrote:

That is insane! Can anyone tell me if there is any other AF tracking system out there that takes it to this level?
I think we all know the answer.

And that's with adapted EF glass!

Jul 18, 2020 at 01:02 PM

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p.10 #5 · p.10 #5 · R5/6 lag/blackout

Hash tag the R5 is insane!

lighthound wrote:
That is insane! Can anyone tell me if there is any other AF tracking system out there that takes it to this level?
I think we all know the answer.

And that's with adapted EF glass!

Jul 18, 2020 at 01:07 PM

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bobbytan wrote:
Hash tag the R5 is insane!

Fitting to match my mental state most days.

I'm going to die if I don't make the first shipment from B&H. I have GOT to have this camera for Alaska.

Jul 18, 2020 at 01:13 PM

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bobbytan wrote:
Hash tag the R5 is insane!

I was impressed with that....

Jul 18, 2020 at 01:13 PM

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p.10 #8 · p.10 #8 · R5/6 lag/blackout

I’d like to help you out if I can. I pre-ordered with B&H in the first 1/2 hour but I am thinking of canceling the R5 but keeping my order for the 100-500L lens as I don’t need the camera until September when the lens ships. This will also give me time to sell some gear and get my finances in order. However, I live in Southern California, so I don’t know if I can help you.

lighthound wrote:
Fitting to match my mental state most days.

I'm going to die if I don't make the first shipment from B&H. I have GOT to have this camera for Alaska.

Jul 18, 2020 at 01:24 PM

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p.10 #9 · p.10 #9 · R5/6 lag/blackout

This is for the R6.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64156578

Jul 18, 2020 at 04:02 PM

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lighthound wrote:
That is insane! Can anyone tell me if there is any other AF tracking system out there that takes it to this level?
I think we all know the answer.

And that's with adapted EF glass!

Welcome to May 2017 Canon....golf clap....

Jul 18, 2020 at 05:49 PM

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p.10 #11 · p.10 #11 · R5/6 lag/blackout

Yippee for Canon ergonomics, huge collection of glass, and superior menus coupled with Sony-like performance!

Jul 18, 2020 at 06:23 PM

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TeamSpeed wrote:
Yippee for Canon ergonomics, huge collection of glass, and superior menus coupled with Sony-like performance!

It's amazing that once king of AF is now being compared to the new king...Sony. My, my how things have changed.

Jul 18, 2020 at 06:30 PM

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lighthound wrote:
That is insane! Can anyone tell me if there is any other AF tracking system out there that takes it to this level?
I think we all know the answer.

And that's with adapted EF glass!

Looks really nice, yes. But you do not read my (and others) posts. I already mentioned a couple of times the EF lenses (which I know) work even more reliable and faster, using them adapted to an R-Body (I tested it with the "R" and "RP" only - maybe the R5/R6 could enhance the performance a bit because they are much more expensive).
And here is my answer: What is insane is that after one or two week of using R5/R6 you will expect it as beeing "normal".

Jul 18, 2020 at 10:02 PM

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bobbytan wrote:
Hash tag the R5 is insane!

I am pretty sure he took the wrong tool.
In this light situation he should have used the R6 imo:
Better AF in low light, less noise, less weight, no 8K overheating ...

Jul 18, 2020 at 10:17 PM

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p.10 #15 · p.10 #15 · R5/6 lag/blackout

The safari video is a review of the R5 with an EF lens - so we are talking about the R5’s AF performance in low light with an EF lens - we are not talking about the noise here. Yes, the R6 should have less noise - and the AF of the R6 should be just as good - not the other way round.

Ralph Conway wrote:
I am pretty sure he took the wrong tool.
In this light situation he should have used the R6 imo:
Better AF in low light, less noise, less weight, no 8K overheating ...

Jul 18, 2020 at 10:38 PM

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p.10 #16 · p.10 #16 · R5/6 lag/blackout

Instead of trying to find videos I decided to search the net. This again is just speculation as there are no numbers yet. We know that the R5 has a new sensor design.

It combines a high-speed sensor readout with the much faster DIGIC X image processing chip, allowing for more accuracy and faster continuous shooting speeds.

https://www.engadget.com/canon-eos-r5-flagship-mirrorless-camera-120045056.html

Then again I watched a little of the post July 9 presentation interview with Canon reps and they said there would be some rolling shutter.

Here as well. Define high speed. How long is a piece of string? We can only hope.

New 45 Megapixel Full-Frame Canon CMOS Imaging Sensor with High-Speed Read-Out; Incredible Image Quality and Dynamic Range Promised

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-R5.aspx

Jul 18, 2020 at 11:07 PM

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Ralph Conway wrote:
I am pretty sure he took the wrong tool.
In this light situation he should have used the R6 imo:
Better AF in low light, less noise, less weight, no 8K overheating ...

Resize the R5 to 20MP and noise will probably be similar, though the image will be a touch sharper. IMO the R5 has the wider shooting envelope. Higher resolution if you need it or the benefit of oversampling when your end use is at a lower resolution.

Jul 19, 2020 at 12:51 AM

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rscheffler wrote:
Resize the R5 to 20MP and noise will probably be similar, though the image will be a touch sharper. IMO the R5 has the wider shooting envelope. Higher resolution if you need it or the benefit of oversampling when your end use is at a lower resolution.

Hm, guess you are right. May sombody here just lend me the 1.800€ price difference for - let me think ... maybe 5 years ... buy me a new computer ... and ... based on my age ... add some decades of life span ...?

Jul 19, 2020 at 02:45 AM

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bobbytan wrote:
The safari video is a review of the R5 with an EF lens - so we are talking about the R5’s AF performance in low light with an EF lens - we are not talking about the noise here. Yes, the R6 should have less noise - and the AF of the R6 should be just as good - not the other way round.

Not the other way round? My english is not so good. Wasn´t this what I said?

By the way: as far what I read the R6s AF indeed is more sensitive than the R5 one.

Jul 19, 2020 at 02:50 AM

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arbitrage wrote:
Welcome to May 2017 Canon....golf clap....

I have question and I hope I get this right. Based on readout speed we should see the same thing in the EFV using either M or E shutter. The EVF will receive the data just as quickly in both modes? The only difference is the mechanical shutter closing, which is obvious.

Jul 19, 2020 at 06:46 PM

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