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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Fuji switch from Nikon

I have been shooting Nikon for years, but recently bought a used X-T20 to go with my D750, and also bought my gf an open box X-T100 to learn on.
I have shot a few weddings with the Nikon system, and probably will still do a few paid portrait sessions when the opportunity arises.
Our Fuji lenses are 18-55 kit, 15-45 xc, and a 35 F2. I am thinking of selling my D750 and Sigma Art 85 1.4 and going all in with Fuji in part do to some thumb arthritis.
What will I gain and lose. I have been using Nikon for years, but find myself grabbing the Fuji more often than not since buying it.

May 26, 2020 at 07:24 AM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Fuji switch from Nikon

You won't gain anything that I can see. Just be happy with what you got.

May 26, 2020 at 09:16 AM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Fuji switch from Nikon

Your style of shooting and personal preference will dictate which system works the best. Gaining or losing? Only you will be able to answer than question....

May 26, 2020 at 10:12 AM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Fuji switch from Nikon

The combination of full-frame and that 85 1.4 is hard to match but you will certainly save some weight and there are other benefits to the mirrorless system. ie. EVF for getting the exposure right, right away. You would want to take a look at the 56mm f/1.2 perhaps with an X-T3 or X-T4. Look out also for the 50mm f/1 to come later this year. This could be a really nice combo for weddings. For weddings I'd keep the X-T20 and get a second body. Then consider keeping three fast primes, ie. 23mm f/1.4 or f/2 on your X-T20 and XF 35 f/2 or f/1.4 and 56 f/1.2 or 90mm f/2 on an X-T3 or X-T4.

May 26, 2020 at 10:57 AM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Fuji switch from Nikon

mfoto wrote:
The combination of full-frame and that 85 1.4 is hard to match but you will certainly save some weight and there are other benefits to the mirrorless system. ie. EVF for getting the exposure right, right away. You would want to take a look at the 56mm f/1.2 perhaps with an X-T3 or X-T4. Look out also for the 50mm f/1 to come later this year. This could be a really nice combo for weddings. For weddings I'd keep the X-T20 and get a second body. Then consider keeping three fast primes, ie. 23mm f/1.4 or f/2 on your X-T20...Show more →

Also, if I am correct, there is no fine tuning of lenses.

May 26, 2020 at 12:36 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Fuji switch from Nikon

Hoagie058 wrote:
Also, if I am correct, there is no fine tuning of lenses.

Which you don't need on mirrorless.

May 26, 2020 at 01:25 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Fuji switch from Nikon

You will lose FF goodness. You will gain a lighter, more compact rig. There are other differences, like AF in low light or continuous mode, that could be significant for event/wedding work, or not, depending on your needs and flexibility. It’s an old saw, I know, but don’t sell the Nikon gear too quickly.

May 26, 2020 at 06:01 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Fuji switch from Nikon

Mike Tuomey wrote:
You will lose FF goodness. You will gain a lighter, more compact rig. There are other differences, like AF in low light or continuous mode, that could be significant for event/wedding work, or not, depending on your needs and flexibility. It’s an old saw, I know, but don’t sell the Nikon gear too quickly.

Good advice. The D750 is a wedding and event favorite for good reason. I’ve also got a Zeiss 135 F2 that can produce magical results. I might miss that.

May 26, 2020 at 06:29 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Fuji switch from Nikon

You are using two lenses (85 1.2 and 135 F2) that on a full frame body have pretty low max aperture. While Fuji makes a 56 f1.2 and 90 f2 that have the same respective max apertures, the minimum DOF will be a bit less shallow due to the crop factor. So if you regularly shoot wide open for shallow DOF, you may want to test out those Fuji lenses to see if they meet your needs.

Also, if you use an older version of Lightroom, it may have some difficulty optimally processing Fuji FAW files.

May 27, 2020 at 10:11 AM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Fuji switch from Nikon

The flip side of the shallower dof is that you can have more in focus. I find that for couples, I have to crank up the ISO a couple of stops because of wanting deeper DOF. So if a shot I needed required 1/60, 135/4, ISO 6400, with Fuji I could get by at 1/60, 90/2.8, ISO 3200.

It's a trade off. I find that if I need shallower DOF, I just need to get closer.

May 27, 2020 at 10:23 AM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Fuji switch from Nikon

The DoF tradeoff and the noise tradeoff are pretty much identical, so when you bump the ISO, you're getting pretty much the same noise (and remember, Fuji's ISO ratings are quite optimistic, Nikon's much less so, so ISO 3200 on the Fuji's is around ISO 2000 on a reasonably modern Nikon in terms of what EV you are actually getting)

May 29, 2020 at 03:17 PM

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mawz wrote:
and remember, Fuji's ISO ratings are quite optimistic, Nikon's much less so, so ISO 3200 on the Fuji's is around ISO 2000 on a reasonably modern Nikon in terms of what EV you are actually getting)

This old myth just needs to die. They use two different, but both equally valid, measurements. Nikon and Canon use the REI standard, and Fuji (and a few others, I think all the m43 crowd) use SOS.It isn't nearly so drastic of a difference as ISO3200 to 2000. It probably was back in the XT1/Xpro1 days, due to the 16mp sensor as those weren't great high ISO sensors. I think I even remember that the XT1 needed longer exposures for the same ISO and aperture. But once the 24mp sensors came out, it really became more comparable.

May 29, 2020 at 11:52 PM

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TheEmrys wrote:
This old myth just needs to die. They use two different, but both equally valid, measurements. Nikon and Canon use the REI standard, and Fuji (and a few others, I think all the m43 crowd) use SOS.It isn't nearly so drastic of a difference as ISO3200 to 2000. It probably was back in the XT1/Xpro1 days, due to the 16mp sensor as those weren't great high ISO sensors. I think I even remember that the XT1 needed longer exposures for the same ISO and aperture. But once the 24mp sensors came out, it really became more comparable.

It's not a myth. The difference exists. This thread is about converting from Nikon to Fuji, so calling out the fact that the ISO ratings are decidedly different should happen.

And yes, it is just about that drastic (that's a 2/3rd of a stop difference, which is decidedly less than the 16MP sensors gave, my X-T1 seems to be around 1 1/3 stops different from my D750, ISO 200 on the X-T1 is just a touch slower than ISO 100 on my D750)

Regardless of the fact both sides are using different standards, you will see this in practice. And Fuji has played with it a few times, there's almost zero EV difference metered between ISO160 on the bodies with that as a base and ISO 200 on the bodies with that as a base, and both are very close to matching ISO 100 on a Nikon or Canon (and on the 16MP bodies, it's more like ISO80, not 100)

It's also not necessarily a bad thing. The biggest complaint from many landscape shooters is the lack of an ISO 100 or lower native setting, but the reality is that you do actually have it, it's just labelled ISO160 or ISO200.

May 30, 2020 at 09:02 AM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Fuji switch from Nikon

I am sure you have a source. Mine is IR where they compares the XPro2 to the D5500, and the Xpro2 is better at the same ISO.

*EDIT* wrong source. Fixed.

May 30, 2020 at 09:46 AM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Fuji switch from Nikon

TheEmrys wrote:
I am sure you have a source. Mine is IR where they compares the XPro2 to the D5500, and the Xpro2 is better at the same ISO.

*EDIT* wrong source. Fixed.

Where do they compare to the D5500? The XPro2 test at IR is compared to a bunch of similar market cost mirrorless bodies (ranging from the m43 RF-like bodies to the A7II). For the most part it outperforms all the other options (the A6300 is very close, unsurprisingly)

And if you note here:

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/fuji-x-pro2/fuji-x-pro2A5.HTM

The X-Pro2 for their outdoor scenes needed 0EV exposure compensation for their external portrait scene vs the usual +0.7EV (right on the 2/3rds of a stop difference I've referenced for the 24MP bodies). The D5500 does right on the average.

Jun 03, 2020 at 01:50 PM


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