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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Parabolix experiences?


Hi!

So I got myself a Parabolix 55. Received it yesterday. Just set it up, haven't had the chance to use it yet.

There were one or two threads some time ago about these reflectors. I was hoping some of you guys could chime in. Maybe say something about your experience having used your Parabolix for a while now.

My question is really this; I'm using Profoto Pro heads with the frosted glass cover. What do you do? Frosted, clear or no glass cover?

Judging from the modelling light it does not go dark in the center when fully flooded. Tried without the glass dome, but that didn't change much. Might have to do with the shape of the mod light bulb. It's not a ring like the flash bulb.

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Jan 23, 2020 at 11:48 AM
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I have the 35D and 55. Both are great modifiers. The main reason you'd want to use the frosted glass cover is that it throws light out wider, filling the modifier a bit more than with the glass cover.

Important if you use the fully flooded position a lot and want to maximize output in that position. Personally I find that the look at that position looses a bit of its magic though, so I don't mind just using my D2 1000s with the glass cover.



Jan 25, 2020 at 12:18 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Parabolix experiences?


The D2s are flat front, no? The flash bulb in the pro heads is shaped like a circle. Guess I'll just have to take a few pics of it while the flash is actually firing. 🙂

Basenji wrote:
I have the 35D and 55. Both are great modifiers. The main reason you'd want to use the frosted glass cover is that it throws light out wider, filling the modifier a bit more than with the glass cover.

Important if you use the fully flooded position a lot and want to maximize output in that position. Personally I find that the look at that position looses a bit of its magic though, so I don't mind just using my D2 1000s with the glass cover.




Jan 25, 2020 at 05:21 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Parabolix experiences?


Do you use any kind of diffusor? Been thinking about 1/4 mesh silk or nylon. Just to be able to tone it down a little bit.

Basenji wrote:
I have the 35D and 55. Both are great modifiers. The main reason you'd want to use the frosted glass cover is that it throws light out wider, filling the modifier a bit more than with the glass cover.

Important if you use the fully flooded position a lot and want to maximize output in that position. Personally I find that the look at that position looses a bit of its magic though, so I don't mind just using my D2 1000s with the glass cover.




Jan 25, 2020 at 05:26 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Parabolix experiences?


Yes D2 is flat front. And no, I don’t use diffusion on the parabolix generally, as I use it specifically for the quality of light it gets non-diffused. I do have a grid for the 35D though which is quite effective. If you plan on using it diffused primarily, I honestly think most any large octa would produce a similar quality of light.


Jan 26, 2020 at 06:19 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Parabolix experiences?


Not planning on mainly using it with diffusion. Would be nice to have the option though. Just take the highlights down a tad.

But judging from what I've seen on the web the 55 seems to give very soft light when flooded, and doesn't really need diffusion. Hard to tell for sure, could be lots of post processing involved.

Thank you so much for your reply! 🙂

Basenji wrote:
Yes D2 is flat front. And no, I don’t use diffusion on the parabolix generally, as I use it specifically for the quality of light it gets non-diffused. I do have a grid for the 35D though which is quite effective. If you plan on using it diffused primarily, I honestly think most any large octa would produce a similar quality of light.




Jan 26, 2020 at 07:17 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Parabolix experiences?


Ah got it. Yeah it might be a good idea to pick up the half stop diffusion panel for it then. I find that I never really want to diffuse either the 35 or 55 though, as you’re correct that at full flood the 55 is actually pretty soft, though of course more specular than an equivalent size soft box


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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Parabolix experiences?


Really interesting thread. A couple of questions come to mind:

1) any thoughts/experience with using a parabolix 40 or 45 with a “lower powered” strobe? Does it need a lot of pop to be used effectively? I’d love to throw my Profoto B2 in there because it’s so small and light, but could use a monolight (D1) with more power instead.

On the same note, any experiences here using any of the flat front/recessed tube strobes from profoto? I feel like the whole “bare bulb is better” thing is overblown but welcome real world impressions...

2) Glow has a line (two lines) of even cheaper “parabolic softboxes” (called “profond,” I gather) that are clearly something other than deep umbrellas — a couple of shapes, one that’s very similar to the parabolix/broncolor offerings and even has an inward-facing mount and focusing arm. (For example: https://www.adorama.com/glsbprfs55.html )

Does anyone have experience using these?



Jan 29, 2020 at 06:50 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Parabolix experiences?


I regularly use the 250ws B10 in my 35D. I probably would recommend at least a 500ws strobe if you want to use the 55 with a reasonable recycle speed.


Jan 29, 2020 at 09:40 PM
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Basenji wrote:
I regularly use the 250ws B10 in my 35D. I probably would recommend at least a 500ws strobe if you want to use the 55 with a reasonable recycle speed.

Looking at the 45, I think.



Jan 30, 2020 at 11:57 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Parabolix experiences?


ChiShutter wrote:
Really interesting thread. A couple of questions come to mind:

1) any thoughts/experience with using a parabolix 40 or 45 with a “lower powered” strobe? Does it need a lot of pop to be used effectively? I’d love to throw my Profoto B2 in there because it’s so small and light, but could use a monolight (D1) with more power instead.

On the same note, any experiences here using any of the flat front/recessed tube strobes from profoto? I feel like the whole “bare bulb is better” thing is overblown but welcome real world impressions...



^In response to your recessed bulb question. I have 3 B10s and I've tried to see if I could remove the front frosted glass + the fixed round metal cover next to it. Won't do much as the flash tube is actually half-recessed in an aluminum or metal opening. The B10 works fine in my 133 but I get a bit less light than a bare bulb flash reflected. In short, I'd have to fire it at a higher power to match a bare bulb if using defocused. If focused, no difference. Am using Godox AD600 Pro with the extension heads in color-stable mode currently with the 133 for less weight on the head.

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I was debating about getting the Parabolix but I figured I might as well get the highly regarded Broncolor Para 133 since it'll save me the hassle of assembling rods (don't mind but it's so much easier to train your assistant to assemble a para), hold its value if I decide to resell it, and is probably better made with the titanium alloy rods.

No regrets so far besides realizing I might want to sink a few hundred for the grid + soft diffuser for the para (which I find ridiculous). But the light quality from the 133 is so good that I'm not even going to bother.

I also own:
- Elinchrom 39"/100cm Deep Octa
- Elinchrom 27"/70cm Octa
- Profoto RFi 3'/90cm Octa.
- Several large white, silver 86"/218cm Paul C. Buff umbrellas

From what I've seen, the Para 133 gives me a light that's soft yet directional and specular. It seems to combine the diffused + inner baffle softness with the sort of harder light from the inner texture of my 39"/100cm DO non-diffused. You also get that directional lighting that you wouldn't with fake parabolics at a close distance to the subject.

Right now, it's my do-it-all-headshot modifier. The only other modifier I'm thinking about adding to my list is the 120cm Litemotiv Indirect for softer lighting. Maybe a 190cm Indirect Octa, but I can mimic that well enough with the 218cm umbrellas, so probably not.

Here are two photos I've taken, one with the 39" DO single diffused + feathered, the other with the 133 defocused:

The 133 falloff is just more gorgeous even at a similar angle + distance due it being directional (because it's a true parabolic).





D850, 105/1.4E @ f/5.6, 1/160s, 64 ISO







Para 133 defocused

  NIKON D850    58.0 mm f/1.4 lens    58mm    f/6.3    1/250s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  




Mar 05, 2020 at 10:59 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Parabolix experiences?


I just picked up a Broncolor Para 222 and 133. They are amazing modifiers. I truly regret not getting them long ago. They can be used in so many ways and configurations that they seem the only modifier I’ll need. I’ve used the 222 within 7 feet of a model (matching the 222’s diameter). Also feathered - illuminating only the far half of the Para to the model. Amazing gear.

I use Elinchrom strobes and can get f1.4 - 2.0 apertures - exposures with the HD Pro 1000 strobe firing at its lowest power.



Apr 09, 2021 at 10:12 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Parabolix experiences?


As I wait for GabrielPhoto's review of Godox versus Parabolix vs. Broncolor parabolic reflectors; I realized I never really showed pictures for others to show the range of adjustments the Parabolix had (partially because getting a model became difficult shortly thereafter).

This is the 40" Parabolix version about 5 feet away from the model who is about 1.5 to 2 feet away from the backround (it had some creases that I minimally tried to smooth out, hopefully those don't distract too much).

These are shot at ISO 100, F5.6 , 1/160 second.
Processing was mainly making sure nothing got blown out (the lower numbers meant i had to lower exposure compensation in raw with Capture NX, very modest curve adjustment in photoshop, usually +5 contrast ( I think 3 and 5 with 10 contrast) , drop to 1200 on the large side and sharpening 50% amount, 0.7 pixel radius, 1 threshold in photoshop. Cloned out a few flyaways as well.

Smaller sizes here , moderately larger versions when you click the link its from.

Parabolix 40 position 1 by neopavlik, on Flickr

Parabolix 40 position 2 by neopavlik, on Flickr

Parabolix 40 position 3 by neopavlik, on Flickr

Parabolix 40 position 4 by neopavlik, on Flickr

Parabolix 40 position 5 by neopavlik, on Flickr

Parabolix 40 position 6 by neopavlik, on Flickr

Parabolix 40 position 7 by neopavlik, on Flickr

Parabolix 40 position 8 by neopavlik, on Flickr

Parabolix 40 position 9 by neopavlik, on Flickr

Parabolix 40 position 10 by neopavlik, on Flickr



Feb 21, 2022 at 11:24 AM







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