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Archive 2020 · Why no 1DxIII "reviews" from Sports photographers?

  
 
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Does LV at 20FPS show a live feed or is the no blackout achieved like most other MILCs (other than A9) via showing the previous frame in the EVF? You would only be able to tell if you actively panned around, preferably at a moving subject. I know my Z50 at max FPS in e-shutter has no blackout but it is terrible to try and pan with something as it is not a live feed.


It is live feed with the square frame flickering completely borrowing from Sony A9.



Jan 26, 2020 at 11:25 AM
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Okay. Thanks. That sounds like it isn’t a live feed if it flickers. That is how a delay slideshow feed behaves. I’ll test it out myself as soon as I get my hands on it.

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It is live feed with the square frame flickering completely borrowing from Sony A9.




Jan 26, 2020 at 02:11 PM
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I think he's talking about the corner flicker when actively capturing on the A9.



Jan 29, 2020 at 10:06 PM
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I think he's talking about the corner flicker when actively capturing on the A9.


Ah yes, I switched my A9 to Mode 2 display with the green outline of the AF box which IMO is a way better visual indicator than the default mode.

I still don't believe the 1DXIII will have a blackout free live feed because Canon made no mention of this and it has been a headline feature for the A9 and A9II. But if it does then that is great news. I'm now more interested in what the rumoured R5 will have. At least with it you will be able to make use of the feature via EVF and flip screen instead of holding a large camera and lens a foot away from your face



Jan 30, 2020 at 08:08 AM
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Ah yes, I switched my A9 to Mode 2 display with the green outline of the AF box which IMO is a way better visual indicator than the default mode.

I still don't believe the 1DXIII will have a blackout free live feed because Canon made no mention of this and it has been a headline feature for the A9 and A9II. But if it does then that is great news. I'm now more interested in what the rumoured R5 will have. At least with it you will be able to make use of the feature via EVF and flip screen instead
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Jump to 52:40 and he used live view. Appears to be no blackout, at least from that clip. I believe he was in silent too, no jello in the movement either. I will test it out for you, holding a foot away





Jan 30, 2020 at 08:21 AM
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Jump to 52:40 and he used live view. Appears to be no blackout, at least from that clip. I believe he was in silent too, no jello in the movement either. I will test it out for you, holding a foot away




Thanks for sharing that Rob. Yes he was in Silent as you can see the E-shutter indicator in lower left.

I still can't tell from that clip. For that limited amount of panning that is what I see in my Slideshow Z50 and Z7. It is not until I try to pan with a duck IF that I realize that the slideshow image is behind reality and my panning lags behind. But I will say that if the Auto or Large Zone modes work reliably and you aren't relying on one of the expansion modes where you have to keep the AF point on the subject then even a slideshow effect can be overcome. When I have a really clean and distant background I am able to track in slideshow mode a duck IF with the Z50/Z7 in Auto AF. But Auto AF on Z cameras isn't anywhere near as good as Nikon DSLR Auto AF or Sony Wide/Zone so I can't rely on them if anything else comes into frame (say like a closer tree or a berm or island etc) as the Auto AF will often just jump to that and off of the bird.

The other thing to consider is if 1/60 sensor read is fast enough to avoid distortions in typical BIF. I think it will be because I shoot my Z cameras in e-shutter for ducks IF and haven't noticed anything weird. The Z cameras have much slower than 1/60th read. You just won't be able to shoot hummers. Heck even the A9 sometimes distorts hummers at 1/160 read but most of the time it is okay.

That all said, the basketball sequence out of the Atmos looks great for that scenario. Also I have a few shooting locations where I could setup on tripod/gimbal and use a 1DXIII rear screen in e-shutter so it wouldn't rule out that feature entirely for me. Just wish they could have put in a tough one direction flip screen like the one on D850 to make low angle shooting via LV a thing. I understand not putting on their traditional flip to the side screen as that is just too risky to break.



Jan 30, 2020 at 08:40 AM
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