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Archive 2020 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

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My guess on Olympus line of cameras. Olympus do it all, relatively small, weather sealed EM5 III (20MP); higher resolution (more than 20MP) Semi professional EM1 III and Professional level EM1X (20MP) similar to Nikon line of D780 (24.5MP), D850 (45.7MP), D6 (24MP).

Jan 12, 2020 at 08:46 AM

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p.3 #2 · p.3 #2 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

The E-M1 II and E-M1 III are not semi-professional bodies - they are professional in every conceivable way. What do you think the professional photographers (and there are too many to count) shot with before the E-M1X? The E-M1X is the D6 equivalent i.e. it does not mean that the D850 is a semi-professional camera.

skamaraju wrote:
My guess on Olympus line of cameras. Olympus do it all, relatively small, weather sealed EM5 III (20MP); higher resolution (more than 20MP) Semi professional EM1 III and Professional level EM1X (20MP) similar to Nikon line of D780 (24.5MP), D850 (45.7MP), D6 (24MP).

Jan 12, 2020 at 10:04 AM

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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

Given the weather sealing, AF, IBIS and the sensors similarity between EM5.3 and the 1.2, one could even call the 5.3 as a pro level camera

While very little to differentiate here, but the M1X pulls ahead on account of taking weather sealing and ruggedisation to a new level combined with its dual processor hardware and ergonomics.

bobbytan wrote:
The E-M1 II and E-M1 III are not semi-professional bodies - they are professional in every conceivable way. What do you think the professional photographers (and there are too many to count) shot with before the E-M1X?

Jan 12, 2020 at 10:31 AM

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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

As sales have already proven, over 90% of M43 photographers neither needed or wanted the better weather sealing, ruggedness, dual processor, or ergonomics of the E-M1X, since none of those were important enough to warrant the price.

And over 90% of those photographers do NOT go out and shoot in pouring rain or below freezing temperatures.

The biggest joke was C-AF capable for trains, planes, and automobiles.

Any DSLR from the last ten years has been capable of doing that.

Jan 12, 2020 at 10:45 AM

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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

Now that you are back on the Olympus train no one can accuse you of trolling on this forum!

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As sales have already proven, over 90% of M43 photographers neither needed or wanted the better weather sealing, ruggedness, dual processor, or ergonomics of the E-M1X, since none of those were important enough to warrant the price.

And over 90% of those photographers do NOT go out and shoot in pouring rain or below freezing temperatures.

The biggest joke was C-AF capable for trains, planes, and automobiles.

Any DSLR from the last ten years has been capable of doing that.

Jan 12, 2020 at 11:14 AM

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WanderNWonder wrote:
Given the weather sealing, AF, IBIS and the sensors similarity between EM5.3 and the 1.2, one could even call the 5.3 as a pro level camera

While very little to differentiate here, but the M1X pulls ahead on account of taking weather sealing and ruggedisation to a new level combined with its dual processor hardware and ergonomics.

Does the EM1x really pull away? Have you experienced that? I have both cameras -actually quite a few Olympus cameras. At this point in time the dual processors of the EM1x are a non-factor and do not add much for my usability. Ruggedness and weather proofing? The EM1 series is already plenty rugged and my EM1.1, EM1.2 and EM5.2 cameras have seen many trips from Alaska to Ecuador jungle. IBIS? - on paper the EM1x sounds better, but in practice the already very good EM1.2 is fine. The only thing I would agree on is that right now my longer lenses balance better on the EM1x and I personally have always liked an integrated grip since the days when I bought a Nikon D4s. But that is just my personal taste. What happens in reality? For the last several trips I left the EM1x at home and took the EM1.2 simply because it was lighter/smaller and I was not birding. So for me the EM1x is a very situation specific camera (birding) and that is valuable for my circumstances but I don't think that applies to most photographers. Overall, I would say that - in my opinion - the EM1.2 etc...is a better choice than the EM1x. In addition, some day in the future when Olympus releases a ground breaking EM1x firmware update I may be happier with my EM1x, but until that day I don't count on the promises of a corporation, just like I don't count on the promises of a politician.

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Jan 12, 2020 at 12:48 PM

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p.3 #7 · p.3 #7 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

A few photos from yesterday. As they were all shot at ISO 3200 there was a lot of noise. And these are all relatively heavy crops. Hopefully the Mk III will have better DR with 14-bit bit depth, and maybe 24mp. AF was fine for tracking these guys although they do try to swim really fast to get away when they catch something and are being chased by the other mergansers. So my biggest hope for the Mk III is still better AF above everything else.

Jan 12, 2020 at 12:59 PM

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bobbytan wrote:
A few photos from yesterday. As they were all shot at ISO 3200 there was a lot of noise. And these are all relatively heavy crops. Hopefully the Mk III will have better DR with 14-bit bit depth, and maybe 24mp. AF was fine for tracking these guys although they do try to swim really fast to get away when they catch something and are being chased by the other mergansers. So my biggest hope for the Mk III is still better AF above everything else.

Excellent.

Jan 12, 2020 at 01:34 PM

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p.3 #9 · p.3 #9 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

I agree Sony is indeed the real threat to most other brands now. As has been stated, an A7R IV with a 200-600, while heavier than an E-M1.2 + 300F4 is more versatile and improves on the image quality (for those who think they need that). It also adds the benefit of 26mp when cropped to APS-C either in camera or in post process. It does so at a similar price of the E-M1X + 300F4 but quite a bit more expensive than the E-M1.2 + 300F4. I don't trust Sony to have weather sealing anywhere near Olympus, neither for camera nor lens but as has also been stated fewer people need it than those who think they need it. Personally I've had my cameras and lenses soaked more times then I care to say which means I am one of those who really want and like good weather sealing.

The E-M1.2 and other Pro Olympus bodies are already well and beyond good weather sealing though and while it is one of the "extra" features that could sometime push me to a 1X it's not really a feature that was needed.

As far as pricing goes, again, Sony is the only real competition here, Nikon and Canon have and/or will prove this with their new releases. The EOS 1DX is almost 9k compared to 3k of the Olympus 1X, the Nikon D6 will very much be similar if not a bit more expensive as Nikon usually is. Nikon's announcement of the 120-300 F2.8 which finally gives Nikon their own (I know Sigma has two versions) lens similar to the amazing Olympus 40-150 F2.8 (great build, good size and amazing image quality a part from a bit busy bokeh sometimes). This is a lens that is among the most versatile focal ranges you can find and one that sport shooters will love.

The obvious differences between the lenses? 3.6 times more weight in the Nikon (3.2kg vs 880g) and about 10k (12k announced) vs $1300.

I have no doubt it will be a superb system but I think the pricing of the new Nikon and Canon products A: Puts the, what we have thought, high m43 pricing in perspective and makes them more valid and B: Makes everything look even greater for Sony. While the Sony A9II is by no means cheap, it's still about 2k bellow the 1DX Mk III (for now, we'll see about actual retail prices).

Given all this, and while many of us have had concern regarding some pricing in m43, I think it's easier to say that the pricing of m43 is a bit more in line compared to these new releases, or maybe the other way around.

Also it's very interesting to hear @Imagemaster is returning to m43 from Sony after having read your mostly very much positive experience (and lobbying

) with Sony

Welcome back and... well, now who will stir up things?

Jan 13, 2020 at 01:58 AM

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p.3 #10 · p.3 #10 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

Wilbus wrote:
I agree Sony is indeed the real threat to most other brands now. As has been stated, an A7R IV with a 200-600, while heavier than an E-M1.2 + 300F4 is more versatile

"Sony is great" is back.
Because of course, everybody choose a system based on the longest lens and the top cameras.

Wilbus wrote:
Also it's very interesting to hear @Imagemaster@ is returning to m43 from Sony after having read your mostly very much positive experience (and lobbying

) with Sony

Interesting? No, this is a joke as a few months ago, he explained that Sony was so superior to Olympus and that everything saying that it is a matter of use & taste was worthy of his contempt.

Jan 13, 2020 at 02:11 AM

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p.3 #11 · p.3 #11 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

Geez I see the Dodo bird is back and contributing nothing helpful. My HIDE ME button needs checking.

More whining just because it bothers him what gear others use and that they comment on what features of certain cameras they find superior for certain applications. Poor baby.

Sony is great. Canon is great. Nikon is great. Pany is great. Oly is great. Fuji is great. Happy now whiner?

Try going and chewing on a tree if you are so frustrated.

HIDE ME up-dated.

Jan 13, 2020 at 10:10 AM

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p.3 #12 · p.3 #12 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

Yeah they’ve (Oly) let down people by leaving so much on the table for a future firmware (for M1X), but the good thing is that the G9 already has Animal detection AF. So eventually Oly will have to get there, if they want to avoid a Daniel Cox situation like Lumix had.

The M1X has created a halo effect and maybe that was their goal. When the famous folks use the Canon 1DX the hobbyists look at the 5D or the 7D. The M1X seems to be doing the same for Olympus, and maybe the S1 is doing the same for Panasonic.

Imagemaster wrote:
As sales have already proven, over 90% of M43 photographers neither needed or wanted the better weather sealing, ruggedness, dual processor, or ergonomics of the E-M1X, since none of those were important enough to warrant the price.

And over 90% of those photographers do NOT go out and shoot in pouring rain or below freezing temperatures.

The biggest joke was C-AF capable for trains, planes, and automobiles.

Any DSLR from the last ten years has been capable of doing that.

Jan 13, 2020 at 11:03 AM

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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

For Dodo's info: Let’s get things straight: I am not a fanboy. I hold no allegiance to any particular brand though I do have affinities for some. If anything I’m a Nikon apologist. I celebrated their 100th Anniversary by buying an Olympus camera and a Leica-designed lens manufactured by Panasonic. I think of gear as tools for the job, nothing more.

https://www.olympuspassion.com/2019/06/18/field-notes-panasonic-leica-dg-summilux-15mm-f-1-7/

I guess Dodo should whine about this person saying Leica or Nikon is great.

Jan 13, 2020 at 11:42 AM

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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

You got your answer ... Dodo Bird!

Wilbus wrote:
Welcome back and... well, now who will stir up things?

Jan 13, 2020 at 12:44 PM

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bobbytan wrote:
You got your answer ... Dodo Bird!

Yeah, and here I thought they were extinct.

Jan 13, 2020 at 01:23 PM

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bobbytan wrote:
You got your answer ... Dodo Bird!

Jan 13, 2020 at 04:06 PM

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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

More likely date would be end of Feb., not mid-Feb., since CP + Shows does not start until Feb. 27.

Jan 13, 2020 at 11:06 PM

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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

Hopefully some specs/details will leak to m43 Rumors before the official announcement, as it often happens.

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More likely date would be end of Feb., not mid-Feb., since CP + Shows does not start until Feb. 27.

Jan 14, 2020 at 12:22 AM

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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · E-M1 Mk III + 150-400 PRO lens

I tried my G9 animal,birds, eye focus this weekend on some sandhill Cranes, flying, and it didnt come on / is it a distance issue /

Jan 14, 2020 at 02:41 AM

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I tried my G9 animal,birds, eye focus this weekend on some sandhill Cranes, flying, and it didnt come on / is it a distance issue /

Certainly it is a distance issue. The smaller/further distance the less efficient it becomes. Just the same as normal AF.

Then there are the other subjects that are difficult for a camera to AF on:

Jan 14, 2020 at 11:17 AM

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