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Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

  
 
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Thanks. I'm going to order one (either this or the 35).


May 24, 2023 at 10:13 AM
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  ILCE-7RM4A    Voigtländer 50mm F/2 Apo-Lanthar (Sony E) lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/800s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM4A    Voigtländer 50mm F/2 Apo-Lanthar (Sony E) lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/800s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM4A    Voigtländer 50mm F/2 Apo-Lanthar (Sony E) lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/1000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Jun 01, 2023 at 04:53 AM
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p.88 #3 · p.88 #3 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


Just got back from a family vacation to the Pacific Northwest. The 50 APO didn't come out of the bag as much as some of the AF lenses did, but it was easily the most fun to use. Such a wonderful lens.































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Jun 06, 2023 at 11:33 PM
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Jun 07, 2023 at 10:05 PM
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I'm having a real love affair with this lens...


























Jun 11, 2023 at 12:41 PM
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Jun 12, 2023 at 11:08 PM
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jaygould wrote:
So is this lens similar to the Sigma 40mm f1.4 Art? The way it is described as "perfect" and "without character". I have the Sigma and while it is very sharp, I don't like it's overly flat and sterile rendering. Will I get more of the same with the APO Lanthar?


I'll tag in with similar comments. I have the 65/35 Voigts. I find the Voigtlander lenses to have a special something that I haven't seen in other lenses. I've used various Sony, Sigma and Zeiss glass to no avail. It's like the Apo Lanthars are sharp across the field without being overly sharp. It has color rendition that reminds me of film. Perhaps some of the vignetting adds 3D body to things? Not sure, but I do love what I see. As a result, I only use these two lenses. I'm planning to get the 50mm as the "betweener" when I only want to take one lens with me. I'm not sure I would be shooting as much digital as I do if not for these lenses. Or I would be using vintage glass.




Jun 23, 2023 at 01:58 PM
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letchhausen wrote:
I'll tag in with similar comments. I have the 65/35 Voigts. I find the Voigtlander lenses to have a special something that I haven't seen in other lenses. I've used various Sony, Sigma and Zeiss glass to no avail. It's like the Apo Lanthars are sharp across the field without being overly sharp. It has color rendition that reminds me of film. Perhaps some of the vignetting adds 3D body to things? Not sure, but I do love what I see. As a result, I only use these two lenses. I'm planning to get the 50mm as the "betweener" when
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I agree with every statement. The 50 is probably my favourite. I think the handling is just a bit more precise.

Previously, I owned one of each APO-Lanthar: 35, 50, 65 and 110. I sold all of them off, as I was spoilt by modern lenses; the many new GM primes and zooms.

Now, however, I don't care for autofocus, as I have no plans or desire for photographing people (there's nothing lesser about it, but it's just not for me).
Not that I have made a profession out of it, but I did consider doing so. If I were to, it would be abstracts of landscape, architecture, or wildlife (both mammals and insects). I do care for autofocus when photographing wildlife, where I use the Sony 200-600 G.

So, I've reacquired some manual focus lenses. As of now, my current kit consists of the following:
Laowa 9mm f/5.6 FF RL
Zeiss Loxia 21mm f/2.8 Distagon
Voigtländer 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar
Leica 135mm f/4 Elmar

Laowa 25mm f/2.8 2.5-5x Ultra Macro
Laowa 85mm f/5.6 2x Ultra Macro APO

They all weight about 400 g (excluding the macros), which I find optimal on Sony's full-frame FE cameras. Both less or more are less balancing to me.
They all produce well-defined sunstars. The Laowa lacks some personality in handling and rendering, but the field of view makes up for it. I mostly convert the images to black and white as well.
I'm more a fan of Voigtländer haptics handling over Loxia, but they both render equally great.
The Leica is sharp for its age. It does produce noticeable amounts of fringing at times, though, and it's a little long. Still, it hits the sweet spot of image quality and rendering.

I just ordered the 35 APO from CameraQuest. It was an used copy for just $695. This is also the site where I ordered the 50 APO, last December. I did love both the 65 and 110, but I found them slightly cumbersome for what I used them for. They are slightly superior to the 35 and 50 in terms of correction.
Whenever I photograph macro, I use the Laowa 25 and 85 lenses, but I do miss having a general usage standard "close-focus" lens, that I will bring for both whole scenes and details. I often photograph abstracts of small details on buildings, close-up, where I find 1:2 is adequate.

I consider purchasing used copies of the CV 90 APO-Skopar and CV 180 APO as well, but I'm not sure. I might skip the 90, as I got the Laowa 85, which could double up as a small prime for 'scapes. It's not as great at infinity focus, and produce poor sunstars, though.
The Contax 35-70 and 100-300 lenses are also very tempting, and I consider a lightweight prime as well for some abstracts; Tamron SP 300, Canon FDn 300, Osawa 400 f/5.6 or Tamron 400 f/7.5. If I skip the 180 APO, I will probably get the SP 300, but if I do add the 180, I would probably gap it with one of the 400mm lenses instead. Not sure how they handle modern sensors, but they seem to get quite positive reviews, and I think they will be good at f/8-f/11. I won't bring all at once, of course. Different tools for different tasks.



Jun 24, 2023 at 12:14 PM
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My feelings are almost the opposite to yours, I have the 50 Apo but it's usage is very low.
I'm finding less and less time for photography due to family issues and I'm valuing auto a lot more for convenience and for taking family pics.

Sometime usability needs to come before outright quality.



Jun 24, 2023 at 04:08 PM
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johnahill wrote:
My feelings are almost the opposite to yours, I have the 50 Apo but it's usage is very low.
I'm finding less and less time for photography due to family issues and I'm valuing auto a lot more for convenience and for taking family pics.

Sometime usability needs to come before outright quality.


I wouldn't say opposite. When family is involved, I do prefer autofocus. Currently, I don't have any autofocus lenses for such, but I'm considering purchasing the small and cheap Samyang 35mm f/1.8 and 75mm f/1.8 lenses, just for that. I don't have children myself, but I do occasionally photograph my sister's children. It's a very little percentage of my photography, as most of my family just do their own. The situations are not that photogenic, when we just eat together at home or such. I'm sure that I will value convenience more once I get older, and get children myself.



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johnahill wrote:
My feelings are almost the opposite to yours, I have the 50 Apo but it's usage is very low.
I'm finding less and less time for photography due to family issues and I'm valuing auto a lot more for convenience and for taking family pics.

Sometime usability needs to come before outright quality.



I think this depends primarily on the use case.

If you use it as an all-round lens, the lack of autofocus is of course a limitation.
For the areas for which I bought the Apo-Lanthar, however, the usability is an additional criterion in favor of the Apo-Lanthar.
I use it primarily for landscape, architecture, night photography in the city, city-/nightscapes, panoramas, usually with tripod/nodal rail.
Applications where high precision manual focus is still the superior choice, the most precise focus tool.
Even with my autofocus lenses, I use manual focus in such scenarios, except that the focus-by-wire lenses don't even come close to this.
I prefocuse with AF in such scenarios, but always use MF for the fine tuning, including exact checking with magnification, and in terms of fine tuning the focus point, usability is clearly superior to AF/focus-by-wire lenses.
The manual focus action is much smoother, more precise with the right amount of resistance to avoid accidential focus shifts.

So it depends on the intended use and I think for the areas for which you usually buy a lens like the Apo-Lanthar and for which it is predestined, you benefit not only from the high optical quality, but also from an increased usabilty in these photographic areas.






Jun 25, 2023 at 08:33 AM
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letchhausen wrote:
I'll tag in with similar comments. I have the 65/35 Voigts. I find the Voigtlander lenses to have a special something that I haven't seen in other lenses. I've used various Sony, Sigma and Zeiss glass to no avail. It's like the Apo Lanthars are sharp across the field without being overly sharp. It has color rendition that reminds me of film. Perhaps some of the vignetting adds 3D body to things? Not sure, but I do love what I see. As a result, I only use these two lenses. I'm planning to get the 50mm as the "betweener" when
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I feel the same way about Voigtlander lenses. They have a remarkably appealing rendering style and I love it. I have several in M-mount that I use on my Leica bodies. My favorite is probably the 50mm f/1.2 Nokton which is remarkable.

The VM 15mm III is simply phenomenal on Sony as well. This thread gave me acute GAS for the 50mm APO-Lanthar and I ordered it today in E mount. Look very forward to using it when it arrives. I do not NEED another 50mm lens (have about a million of them) but really wanted this one.



Jun 25, 2023 at 02:07 PM
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Abuttolph wrote:
I feel the same way about Voigtlander lenses. They have a remarkably appealing rendering style and I love it. I have several in M-mount that I use on my Leica bodies. My favorite is probably the 50mm f/1.2 Nokton which is remarkable.

The VM 15mm III is simply phenomenal on Sony as well. This thread gave me acute GAS for the 50mm APO-Lanthar and I ordered it today in E mount. Look very forward to using it when it arrives. I do not NEED another 50mm lens (have about a million of them) but really wanted this one.


You will not regret it. The 50mm APO Lanthar is a great lens, I even have the luxury of owning it alongside the 40mm Nokton and wouldn't give either of them away.

I regularly prefer them to the 35 GM and 50 GM because of the look, unless autofocus is absolutely required.



Jun 25, 2023 at 03:05 PM
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I got:
APO 50mm E
APO 35mm E
APO 35mm M
Nokton 50mm M 1.5 type I Chrome (favorite build quality among any lenses I tried)
Ultron 21mm M

APO 50m is definitely the best



Jun 25, 2023 at 03:07 PM
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Some excellent evidence of the sheer resolving power of the 50/2 here - you can zoom into these images:

https://www.lenstip.com/613.12-Lens_review-Voigtlander_Apo_Lanthar_50_mm_f_2_Aspherical_Sample_shots.html

Having said that, the 35/2 is a little better, in E form at least (in my experience, but they are close so copy variation may enter the equation).

Cosina's decision to make the 50/1 for Nikon Z rather than Sony E saved some of us a tidy sum. It was their first breakthrough lens to go to Nikon, but not us. You can assess the Nikon Z users' level of interest for the 50/1 by the five weeks that have elapsed since the last post on the lens (no pun intended).

They also have Z 50/2 and 35/2 APO Lanthars since May-June 2022, but I could not find their web pages in the Nikon forum. I only went back six months though, so maybe that is it. Strange times.



Jun 25, 2023 at 05:02 PM
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https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1765409/0
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1722699/1

philip_pj wrote:
Some excellent evidence of the sheer resolving power of the 50/2 here - you can zoom into these images:

https://www.lenstip.com/613.12-Lens_review-Voigtlander_Apo_Lanthar_50_mm_f_2_Aspherical_Sample_shots.html

Having said that, the 35/2 is a little better, in E form at least (in my experience, but they are close so copy variation may enter the equation).

Cosina's decision to make the 50/1 for Nikon Z rather than Sony E saved some of us a tidy sum. It was their first breakthrough lens to go to Nikon, but not us. You can assess the Nikon Z users' level of interest for the 50/1 by the five weeks that have elapsed since
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Jun 25, 2023 at 06:25 PM
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To be fair, I post all my CV 35/2 AL-Z shots in the Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar review thread of the Sony forum.
There was no dedicated picture thread in the Nikon forum, so i use the Sony forum thread.

For most Z-mount versions there are often no, or hardly any reviews, unlike with the FE-mount where there seems to be a greater willingness to look at lens offerings outside of Sony.
Also seem to me high-quality manual focus lenses to find greater appeal, greater resonance there.
In both mirrorless systems these lenses are niche products, but the bubble in which many Nikon users are in terms of optics/lenses seems bigger to me, and I say that as a Nikon user.

Probably because the FE mount is clearly the most open of the three major manufacturers, so that there have always been high-quality alternatives that are taken into account.
Apart from that, the user base of Sony E is significantly larger than that of Nikon Z.

However, I don't come from the F-mount, but went directly from the analog medium format/35mm to the Z-mount
I still use/adapt many MF-optics from earlier Canon FD, Mamiya 645 and M42 times.
So I'm not the typical Nikon user, but have become big with manual focus and cameras like a Pentax Spotmatic and Ricoh TLS 401 Dual Viewfinder.
So basically have a higher affinity for high-quality manual focus lenses and prefer them where it is not about the fastest focusing, but about the ultimate precision in fine adjustment and placement of the focus plane.




Jun 25, 2023 at 07:17 PM
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Jul 11, 2023 at 09:57 AM
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Having shot nightscape panoramas with longer FL lately and coming back to this lens now, it is still my favorite for this kind of use. 50mm means enough detail in the milky way, yet not as much work as with say 85 or 135mm. It is by far the smallest and lightest of my 'astro' lenses. F2.0 is not extremely fast, but since it corrects coma and CA so well, there are no concerns shooting wide open. Sharpness is great, as is the focusing experience which is expecially crucial at night.

Here is a recent panorama with the E-Mount version.







Jul 14, 2023 at 07:52 PM
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