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Archive 2019 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


It was a good opportunity to try some CIZ pictures.

Reasons:
1. The light was low, so not much chance to use 2X, but wanted a little larger image.
2. I was anticipating a take off shot, so I did not want to get too close to the bird but wanted a larger image while waiting.

What do you think? They are all JPEG images since the CIZ function only works with the JPEG setting. I used the mechanical shutter since it can still shoot 10 FPS with AF-C while CIZ was enabled. Handheld.






FF







CIZ at 2X FF







cropped image of the second image







at 840 FF







CIZ at 2X FF







600 FF







CIZ at 1.5X FF







50% cropped of the CIZ 1.5



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Dec 11, 2019 at 01:27 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


Why would you need a TC with results like this unless you wanted RAW to work from These look great especially for a dismal day on light. Great results that I see!

Karl



Dec 11, 2019 at 01:31 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


Special birds merlin, always a joy to watch them.


Dec 11, 2019 at 01:41 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


Great pics. I have been looking for some examples of people using CIZ. Thanks!


Dec 11, 2019 at 01:45 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


They look great, but no idea if they look any better than if you just cropped in post-processing from a RAW or jpeg taken without using CIZ.


Dec 11, 2019 at 01:57 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


Read the captions. There is a mix of uncropped, cropped, and CIZ.

CIZ honestly looks a lot better than I expected.



Dec 12, 2019 at 04:02 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


Fantastic results.


Dec 12, 2019 at 11:52 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


Can't really say anything about the CIZ performance if you don't look at 100% crops.
I still believe CIZ is nonsense for stills.



Dec 13, 2019 at 04:37 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


Your examples with explanations of how much CIZ was used and then crops also posted conveyed plenty to me. I just configured my A9 ready to try it out tomorrow for the first time.
(RAW turned off, Zoom setting added to My Menu, CIZ set to 1.5)

I'm currently shooting some Brown goshawks and some Collared sparrowhawks using 1000mm focal length and need to crop heavily, around 3000 to 4000 pixel wide crops.

Your results look great and I hope I can achieve similar.




Dec 13, 2019 at 07:12 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


I agree with Tony...you need to show a comparison cropped to the same framing between not using it, using it at 1.5x and using the lens with 1.4TC. I'm not seeing that in these examples.

The examples look good as presented but don't tell me if they are better than getting the RAW without CIZ and processing it.



Dec 13, 2019 at 08:54 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)




Here is the 100% cropped of the normal image VS resized and cropped of the 2X CIZ. Probably useful for printing when I need more pixels.












Dec 17, 2019 at 12:56 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


I believe that there is a time and a place to use clear zoom, and you picked the right time and the right place.

I've used it a bit, even had some good results using it, but not at iso's that high.



Dec 17, 2019 at 06:38 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


ruhikant wrote:
Here is the 100% cropped of the normal image VS resized and cropped of the 2X CIZ. Probably useful for printing when I need more pixels.


Thanks for posting the follow-up examples. The CIZ has crazy sharpening going on and artifacts all over the face. I'm sure you could match that "look" if you wanted to with the RAW file.

I still feel the CIZ is a useless feature.



Dec 17, 2019 at 07:04 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


arbitrage wrote:
Thanks for posting the follow-up examples. The CIZ has crazy sharpening going on and artifacts all over the face. I'm sure you could match that "look" if you wanted to with the RAW file.

I still feel the CIZ is a useless feature.


Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but I don't see a lot of objectionable artifacts in the CIZ picture. In fact I'm surprised at how good it does look.



Dec 17, 2019 at 10:03 PM
davev
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


At times, I feel it's pretty good.
a73, 100-400, 1.4 tc, 1.4 cz

https://live.staticflickr.com/4911/45591746664_6f5056f0ac_h.jpg


a73, 100-400, 2x tc, 1.4 cz.

https://live.staticflickr.com/7811/39742569123_32f10ee716_h.jpg


a73, Canon 50 f2.5 macro lens, 2x cz.

https://live.staticflickr.com/893/41564887554_31b9dc3bdf_h.jpg



Dec 17, 2019 at 10:41 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


arbitrage wrote:
Thanks for posting the follow-up examples. The CIZ has crazy sharpening going on and artifacts all over the face. I'm sure you could match that "look" if you wanted to with the RAW file.

I still feel the CIZ is a useless feature.


While I wouldnt call it useless since I can see why some people will find a reason to use it, after a test I did recently, I much rather just upscale in post like using Gigapixel AI which gives me better results than CIZ.



Dec 17, 2019 at 10:44 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


arbitrage wrote:
Thanks for posting the follow-up examples. The CIZ has crazy sharpening going on and artifacts all over the face. I'm sure you could match that "look" if you wanted to with the RAW file.

I still feel the CIZ is a useless feature.


I tried CIZ couple of times, and had the same conclusion. I much prefer the raw crop with or without upscaling, just can't stand the artifacts at 100% CIZ images.




Dec 18, 2019 at 12:16 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Playing with Clear image zoom function ( A9II and 600GM)


I'm interested in the Gigapixels users opinion on this video.
He shows the Gigapixel software around minute 15, shows the results around minute 17.

Do you folks encounter this when you use it?




Dec 19, 2019 at 01:00 AM





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