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Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

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p.42 #1 · p.42 #1 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Desmolicious wrote:

I haven’t kept track, but it seems like he keeps very few lenses for long. Can’t understand his criticism of f/2.8 being too soft for video, more like not enough DOF and/or missed focus. It definitely is a long lens for 50mm M, but not like that’s any surprise. I want to tell him, just sell your lens, dude, you don’t need an excuse for G.A.S. We understand.

Sep 23, 2023 at 01:13 PM

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p.42 #2 · p.42 #2 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

It came from Peter Coulson who thought it had too much flair and then Mr Leica (Osborne) agreed and sold it. I like what it offers.

Sep 23, 2023 at 07:28 PM

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p.42 #3 · p.42 #3 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

algrove wrote:
It came from Peter Coulson who thought it had too much flair and then Mr Leica (Osborne) agreed and sold it. I like what it offers.

Likely due to very specific commercial needs that don't align. Osborne often says a lens might be "too clinical" and wants something more artistic but then pulls back as if to say, "not that artistic".

The flare is one of the reasons to use it, IMO.

Even the new SP3 series has the same purple/blue flare: https://youtu.be/d65pv2DF4qY?t=757

And not even 10 seconds into Cooke's own demo reel for the SP3s, they have a flare shot with the 100mm.

SP3 50 blue/purple flare

SP3 100 veiling flare

Sep 24, 2023 at 09:33 AM

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p.42 #4 · p.42 #4 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

highdesertmesa wrote:
I haven’t kept track, but it seems like he keeps very few lenses for long. Can’t understand his criticism of f/2.8 being too soft for video, more like not enough DOF and/or missed focus. It definitely is a long lens for 50mm M, but not like that’s any surprise. I want to tell him, just sell your lens, dude, you don’t need an excuse for G.A.S. We understand.

I think that some number of his fans would want to know each of the the reasons to be listed, and explained. It is expected. Such is the life of a you-tuber; one’s fans expect consistency. Notably, he emphasizes that his fans should not automatically dump their LLL Speed Panchro lenses.

Personally, I have yet to acquire any LLL lenses. The Speed Panchro has been the most tempting, thus far.

I am not being critical of Matt Osborne. He has a successful Youtube channel, and I wish him continued success.

Sep 24, 2023 at 02:47 PM

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p.42 #5 · p.42 #5 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Most reviewers seem to like the character of the LLL 50/2 SP2 lens. However, some find it soft, but in reality, it produces images with low contrast and is prone to veiling, which I think it's a good combination. There are many classic 50/2 lenses that create a similar look, but what sets the SP2 apart is that it remains sharp even with the low contrast effect. In fact, it's sharp and can capture fine details from the center to the corners, maintaining consistency across the entire image. Similar to the 35/1.4 Lux pre-asph's look in a 50mm focal length.

Personally, I prefer the images from the SP2 over the 50/1.4 Lux lens with Peter Karbe's signature.

Sep 24, 2023 at 03:48 PM

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p.42 #6 · p.42 #6 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

I guess mine is the SP1. Have no idea what could be different between various SP versions.

Sep 25, 2023 at 04:09 PM

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algrove wrote:
I guess mine is the SP1. Have no idea what could be different between various SP versions.

If it is the Light Lens Lab lens, yours is the SP2. It stands for Speed Panchro 2. LLL just builds them in batches.

Sep 25, 2023 at 04:35 PM

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p.42 #8 · p.42 #8 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Not sure if I have posted this in this thread before.

M5, LLL 8Elements 35mm f2, Acros II

Sep 25, 2023 at 04:36 PM

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p.42 #9 · p.42 #9 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Desmolicious wrote:
If it is the Light Lens Lab lens, yours is the SP2. It stands for Speed Panchro 2. LLL just builds them in batches.

Yes of course. Sorry.

So what is an SP3 as shown above. A different lens entirely?

Sep 25, 2023 at 05:12 PM

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algrove wrote:
Yes of course. Sorry.

So what is an SP3 as shown above. A different lens entirely?

That is a lens made by Cooke, not Light Lens Lab

Sep 25, 2023 at 08:04 PM

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Desmolicious wrote:
Not sure if I have posted this in this thread before.

M5, LLL 8Elements 35mm f2, Acros II

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52627915633_d9f46efd45_c.jpg

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algrove wrote:
Yes of course. Sorry.

So what is an SP3 as shown above. A different lens entirely?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1784164-REG/cooke_sp3_5_way_sp3_full_frame_five.html

Sep 25, 2023 at 09:45 PM

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p.42 #12 · p.42 #12 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

M5, 35 8E, HP5

Sep 26, 2023 at 12:04 PM

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p.42 #13 · p.42 #13 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

highdesertmesa wrote:
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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1784164-REG/cooke_sp3_5_way_sp3_full_frame_five.html

@highdesertmesa
Thanks. I had no idea this was to be available. I just might get the 75mm since it just might suit my needs better than getting the Leica 75 1.4.

Sep 26, 2023 at 06:06 PM

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p.42 #14 · p.42 #14 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

algrove wrote:
@highdesertmesa@
Thanks. I had no idea this was to be available. I just might get the 75mm since it just might suit my needs better than getting the Leica 75 1.4.

These Cooke SP3 lenses were just released last month. They offer a 75mm but I think LLL is developing a 75mm Speed Panchro as well: https://lightlenslab.myshopify.com/blogs/upcoming-project/light-lens-lab-75mm-f-2-speed-panchro-ii-update-i

Sep 26, 2023 at 06:37 PM

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p.42 #15 · p.42 #15 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

I would prefer an f2.0 like my 50 SP2, but that LLL video is confusing as it might look like they have a rear filter that can be fitted? Not sure what I am looking at there.

Will see when the M adapter becomes available for the SP3 lenses in 2024. It's the T2.4 that is different, but then again it's only a half a stop. Having an original Cooke lens might be desirable.

Sep 26, 2023 at 08:34 PM

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p.42 #16 · p.42 #16 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Any suggestions on how to adapt the SP3 lens with E mount to an M and/or to an SL without having to wait for the Cooke adapter sometime in 2024?

Sep 27, 2023 at 11:56 AM

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