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Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

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p.53 #1 · p.53 #1 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Hannah by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Hannah by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Sony A7RII, LLL 50mm f/1.2 '1966.'

Mar 16, 2024 at 08:36 PM

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p.53 #2 · p.53 #2 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

My SN is 485, if that’s helpful!

Mar 17, 2024 at 09:45 AM

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p.53 #3 · p.53 #3 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

_jim_ wrote:
A few more with the '1966' on the Sony A7RII. Part of me still wonders if the corners look bad because of the Sony sensor...or because of the insane amount of astigmatism (maybe both). A friend just lent me a very nice copy of the version 2 f/1 Noctilux. I am floored by how much sharper it is across the frame vs the 1.2. The 1.2 rendering is different enough and the size small enough to warrant having both.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53587717516_b98ff942dd_b.jpg Camellia by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53587931333_36e72070ae_b.jpg Camellia by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53586847032_fff7c5e775_b.jpg Camellia by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53587927593_80a98eecb4_b.jpg Camellia by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53588182820_10db3b7619_b.jpg Pinot Noir...Show more →

I have both, a Noctilux 1.0 (v4) and a Noctilux 50 1.2 (reissue). You need your subject centered with the 50/1.2 when it is wide open and it will have a nice “sharpness” in that area, but away from center sharpness will be lacking due to a waviness in where focus lies and a that further degrades into a total lack of sharpness as one moves toward the edges. Stopped down a few stops (4-5.6), and the 50/1.2 is sharp everywhere and can stand in for a summicron. The Noctilux 1.0 has a uniformity of sharpness from center almost all the way to the edges, but it is still much softer than one expects from a Summicron or even a Summilux. The 50 1.4 Summilux ASPH is sharper at wide open than either of the aforementioned Noctiluxes at 1.4 and has a beautiful falloff wide open. The 50 1.4 Summilux is truly an unsung hero among all this Noctilux love. Shoot one of those wide open and you will pleased at the additional sharpness and the gently different look. It might make you rethink Noctiluxes altogether. My Summilux gets far more use than my Noctiluxes, but sometimes you just have to scratch that itch.

As for putting them on a Sony. It’s not worth the fight. Get yourself a used SL, SL2, or SL2S and enjoy the lens mated to a sensor designed to accomadate an M lens. Used prices are good.

Mar 17, 2024 at 10:01 AM

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p.53 #4 · p.53 #4 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Just for curiosity.

I was playing around with my Fujifilm X-Pro3 today and decided to try the Fujifilm 1.4x and 2x teleconverters for compatibility with my Leica M lenses. To my surprise, they work seamlessly with my Leica 90/2 cron, Leica 135/4, and Light Lens Lab 50mm f/2 SP2 lenses. What's even better is that this combination supports autofocus when paired with the Fotodiox AF adapter. Below is an image showing the Fuji 2x teleconverter with the Lens Light Lab 50/2 lens. With the 2x teleconverter, it's like shooting with a 150mm lens. The Leica 135/4 becomes a 400mm lens with AF!

Fujifilm X-Pro3 + XF 2x teleconverter + Fotodiox AF adapter + LLL 50/2 SP2

Mar 24, 2024 at 09:00 PM

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p.53 #5 · p.53 #5 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Just to test this out, I captured two shots from my office window. One was taken using the 1.4x teleconverter, while the other utilized the 2x teleconverter. This resulted in focal lengths of 105mm and 140mm respectively on the X-Pro3 camera.

The Fotodiox adapter autofocus wasn't super quick but didn't have any issues hunting.

I noticed that the images could have been sharper, likely due to neglecting the shutter speed, especially for the 150mm shot.

105mm Focal length: Fujifilm X-Pro3 + XF 1.4x teleconverter + Fotodiox AF adapter + LLL 50/2 SP2

X-Pro3 FOTODIOX LM-FX lens 50mm f/5.6 1/105s 320 ISO +0.7 EV

150mm Focal length: Fujifilm X-Pro3 + XF 2x teleconverter + Fotodiox AF adapter + LLL 50/2 SP2

X-Pro3 FOTODIOX LM-FX lens 50mm f/1.0 1/60s 400 ISO +0.7 EV

Mar 24, 2024 at 09:04 PM

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p.53 #6 · p.53 #6 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Is the lens able to focus to infinity w all those adapters?

Mar 25, 2024 at 06:49 AM

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p.53 #7 · p.53 #7 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Desmolicious wrote:
Is the lens able to focus to infinity w all those adapters?

Yes, indeed. While it may seem counterintuitive, consider the extenders as part of the lens's optical design. The spacing provided by the adapter is crucial for ensuring correct registration.

Here is a sample shot taken at infinity distance using the adapter's autofocus, followed by one at a closer distance. Both shots were taken at equiv. 150mm FL using the Fuji 2x teleconverter and the LLL 50/2 SP2 lens. (50 x 2 x 1.5)

(Ektar 100 film sim)

f/4

f/2

Mar 25, 2024 at 08:28 PM

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p.53 #8 · p.53 #8 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Rubber Plant by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Leica M5, Light Lens Lab 50mm f/2 'Elcan,' Ilford HP5+, Xtol 1:1

Pigeon by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Leica M7, Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.2 '1966,' Ilford HP5+, Xtol 1:1

Stranger by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Leica M7, Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.2 '1966,' Cinestill 800T.

Abandoned Car by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Leica M5, Light Lens Lab 35mm f/2 '8-Element,' Ilfrod HP5+, Xtol 1:1

Mar 27, 2024 at 06:24 PM

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p.53 #9 · p.53 #9 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

_jim_ wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53615448346_d5853b271a_b.jpg Rubber Plant by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Leica M5, Light Lens Lab 50mm f/2 'Elcan,' Ilford HP5+, Xtol 1:1

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53614837978_a1b4ac2c32_b.jpg Pigeon by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Leica M7, Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.2 '1966,' Ilford HP5+, Xtol 1:1

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53600810272_51abfea83f_b.jpg Stranger by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Leica M7, Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.2 '1966,' Cinestill 800T.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53600276676_bbeda8a703_b.jpg Abandoned Car by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Leica M5, Light Lens Lab 35mm f/2 '8-Element,' Ilfrod HP5+, Xtol 1:1

Love your work, how to you like this LLL 50 1.2 vs your VM 50 1.0?

Mar 29, 2024 at 07:37 AM

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p.53 #10 · p.53 #10 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

ZacharyHH wrote:
Love your work, how to you like this LLL 50 1.2 vs your VM 50 1.0?

Good question:

I really like both. Let me elaborate...

Pros of the Nokton f/1:
1. It is sharper at every aperture at every distance in every part of the frame.
2. Shorter focus throw (I find the very, very long throw of the LLL to be slow and doesn't necessarily aid in more precise focusing).
3. It's lighter.
4. Bayonet mount hoods are the best. I can grab my camera from my bag without concern that I am grabbing a free spinning hood (like on the LLL) and gouging the paint job.
5. Very low geometric distortion.
6. Modern high contrast.
7. Very good flare resistance.

Pros of the '1966':
1. The rendering is gorgeous. I can't explain it. It's so difficult to know what will be in focus...but when it all comes together, it just looks lovely. Unlike any other lens I've had.
2. The size. Even though it's heavier than the Nokton, it is significantly smaller.
3. The knurling on the focus ring is fantastic (much, much better than the Nokton). The valleys are deep and knurled, the ridges are smooth (the Nokton’s pattern is the inverse of this…and shallower). Its very grippy and comfortable.

In summary, I feel more confident when using the Nokton that what I am photographing will be usably sharp. With the '1966' I feel like I'm gambling...that the juice is worth the squeeze...I am going to blow a lot of shots for the chance at nailing focus and getting to enjoy the beautiful draw from the lens.

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Mar 29, 2024 at 03:28 PM

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Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Pinot Noir Vine by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Leica M7, Light Lens Lab 50mm f/1.2 '1966,' Fuji Pro 400H

Mar 29, 2024 at 03:32 PM

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p.53 #12 · p.53 #12 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread

Camellias by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Cherry Blossoms by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Cherry Blossoms by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

Leica M7, Light Lens Lab 50mm f/2 'Elcan,' Fuji Pro 400H

Mar 29, 2024 at 03:38 PM

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