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Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

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MELVILLE, N.Y., October 24, 2019 – Completing the “trinity” of RF lenses for the EOS R Full-Frame mirrorless camera system, Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, today announced the RF 70-200mm F2.8L IS USM telephoto lens.

Additionally, the company also announced its first lens to feature Defocus Smoothing lens coating, the Canon RF 85 F1.2L DS. The ninth and tenth lenses in the RF family are both powerful tools for photographers using the EOS R or EOS RP cameras, in particular, those shooting sports or wildlife photography with the RF 70-200mm F2.8L or portrait photography with the RF 85mm F1.2L USM DS.

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Canon RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM $2699 | Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS $2999

Oct 24, 2019 at 03:14 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

I'm blown away by how much better the DS bokeh is wide open. This would be the obvious choice for 85mm for me over the standard version.

Oct 24, 2019 at 01:34 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

My iPhone does that.

Oct 24, 2019 at 01:59 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

I have just made a pre order

great lenses for the RF series - love it

Oct 24, 2019 at 02:25 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

BIGANDT wrote:
I have just made a pre order

great lenses for the RF series - love it

Almost makes me wish I was a pro so I could justify such a lens

Oct 24, 2019 at 02:28 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

Such a pity it can't do more than 30MP...

Oct 24, 2019 at 02:31 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

... yet

No R camera for me yet but when the right one is there I’ll have the rf 24-70 and 70-200 with that

Oct 24, 2019 at 03:24 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

Yes if you routinely shoot straight into round light sources in your near-background at f/1.2 then I guess maybe the DS is worth it.

I'll gladly take my extra stop of light.

Oct 24, 2019 at 03:41 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

Edit: Never mind.

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Oct 24, 2019 at 04:08 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

Strong MTF performance for the new RF 70-200/2.8 IS

Oct 24, 2019 at 04:38 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

Yes. Canon did not mess around with these lenses. MTF on 70-200 while theoretical looks really strong. Wonder how it breaths?

The DS f1.2 ! lens with apodization is a first and is among the most lustworthy things I've seen come out of photography in some time.

Oct 24, 2019 at 07:37 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

Curious, with lens apodization how is there no light loss? Is it really still an f/1.2? Sweet lens for sure but typically there is a loss of light transmission with these types of lenses.
Karl

Oct 24, 2019 at 08:38 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

Looks like no one will be using that 70-200 in a water housing with that telescoping zoom.

Oct 24, 2019 at 09:04 PM

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artsupreme wrote:
Looks like no one will be using that 70-200 in a water housing with that telescoping zoom.

Out of curiosity, were people using 70-200 underwater in the first place? Seems pike light transmission through water is too bad for a telephoto underwater unless you were shooting close distance.

Really excited for this new smaller 70-200. Interesting that it has two motors...

Oct 24, 2019 at 09:32 PM

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kezeka wrote:
Out of curiosity, were people using 70-200 underwater in the first place? Seems pike light transmission through water is too bad for a telephoto underwater unless you were shooting close distance.

Really excited for this new smaller 70-200. Interesting that it has two motors...

I'm using the 70-200 with 1DXII exclusively in the water for surfing. I'm not talking about using it underwater.

Oct 24, 2019 at 11:40 PM

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RoamingScott wrote:
I'm blown away by how much better the DS bokeh is wide open. This would be the obvious choice for 85mm for me over the standard version.

at the 47 sec mark of the third video, I like how at f2.8 it is like the reg 85mm, but the effect becomes noticeable as you open up.

Unless you shoot in low light all the time and need f1.2, I think the slight loss of light at f1.2 of the DS is worth it.

I will get the DS version eventually. Perhaps keep my EF 85 II for the low light.

Oct 24, 2019 at 11:53 PM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

Karl Witt wrote:
Curious, with lens apodization how is there no light loss? Is it really still an f/1.2? Sweet lens for sure but typically there is a loss of light transmission with these types of lenses.
Karl

To answer your question, in the first video at around the 3:10 time stamp my paraphrased/interpretation of when Rudy is saying is that there is a 1.3 stop of light loss at wide open f/1.2 that gradually goes away by the time the lens is stopped down to f/3.5 and smaller.

Other parts of the video that caught my attention if you back up to around the 0.48 time stamp is where he proclaims that this lens is the sharpest Canon 85mm lens ever. I interrupt this to also include the non DS version of this lens at any aperture setting. Then later on at around the 1:50 time stamp he goes on about the softening of the out of focus highlights and bokeh only being impacted at apertures faster/larger than f/3.5 with no difference at smaller aperture settings as compared to the non DS version of this lens at comparable aperture settings. Also at f/1.2 there is a slight increase of the apparent depth of focus that goes away gradually as the lens is stopped down to f/3.5 and smaller. I'm going to gander a guess that at f/1.2 the out of focus highlights and depth of focus of this lens will be similar to a regular f/1.4 lens wide open and gradually becomes imperceptible somewhere around the f/3.5 settings.

Base on this I'm not concerned about the light loss and am very interested in this lens. Of course the inevitable upcoming reviews that hopefully compare this lens to various other smaller aperture lenses will likely seal the deal for me. The only issue for me may be the decision as to if the added size, weight and cost are are worth it over some other slower/smaller max aperture lens.

Oct 25, 2019 at 09:19 AM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

I think T-Stop and DOF will be closely related, so DOF of the DS lens wide open will be like a normal 85 mm f/2 lens. In my opinion it would be interesting to see images with bokeh highlights compared at equal T-stop.

Oct 25, 2019 at 10:28 AM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

Karl Witt wrote:
Curious, with lens apodization how is there no light loss? Is it really still an f/1.2?

Yes, f-stop is based solely on geometry. The t-stop (transmission) may be affected.

Oct 25, 2019 at 10:46 AM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Official: Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS & RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

$3500 CDN Pesos for that 70-200....I remember buying my 70-200 f/2.8 IS II for $1999....times have changed in such a short while

Oct 25, 2019 at 11:27 AM

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