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Archive 2019 · Nikon Z-Noct-Nikkor 58mm f/0.95 lens US price: $7,996.95

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The samples do look amazing indicating a top notch image quality from this lens. Getting the accurate focus obtained in the samples- that may be another story and it will not be quick or easy.

Oct 11, 2019 at 05:31 PM

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realVivek wrote:
The samples do look amazing indicating a top notch image quality from this lens. Getting the accurate focus obtained in the samples- that may be another story and it will not be quick or easy.

Having used the M 50 Nocti f/1.0 for several years, there is a skill set that you practice and acquire with fast manual lenses. In the streets capturing portraits I did not have any issues unless my intent was to capture action

Oct 11, 2019 at 05:39 PM

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I do have a few f/1 lenses. TheCanon 50/0.95 (rf coupled) on an M is a different way of focusing than on a live view camera.

The sharpness of the new Noct Nikkor seems to be at a different league altogether than the RF fast lenses. So missing the focus will show more clearly, I think.

“Action”

Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr

Epson RD1s, Canon 50/0.95 @f/0.95

Oct 11, 2019 at 05:51 PM

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alundeb wrote:
I remember you posted that photo, and checked back. It was in 2013, and you posted it to prove that one doesn't need a full frame camera to get that look. Now you are using mainly a full frame camera, right?

I am, but for different reasons.

However, there's a bit of a difference here. First: the 'full frame' look can be had with a plethora of full-frame systems and lenses that exist and are quite usable and affordable. If the only full frame systems were $10,000 bodies with $5,000 lenses and each camera and lens weighed 5 lbs each, I'd still be shooting m4/3.

In this situation, for most people, the extreme shallow DOF that this lens can provide is going to be something that is an occasional need. Especially given the cost and weight of this lens. Unless you shoot this sort of thing all the time, you're just going to leave it at home most of the time. If you do have a regular need for it, and are willing to carry something that size and weight on a daily basis, then sure...it makes perfect sense to buy it. My point is to counter that there is more than one way to get that look. If you only need it occasionally, it probably makes sense to do a stitched image here and there.

Oct 11, 2019 at 06:23 PM

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zhangyue wrote:
?? Did you see the samples?

Yes?

And you can accomplish the same with a stitched 85/1.4. As I said in the reply just above this...if you need that look a LOT and you're willing to carry a lens of this size all the time, then sure...it makes perfect sense to pick this lens up. My point is that you can create that look without this lens if you had to, and you said there was no alternative to get that look. There is an alternative. It isn't as convenient, and it is more limiting, but it does exist.

Oct 11, 2019 at 06:29 PM

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Oct 11, 2019 at 06:38 PM

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Arka wrote:
Not for video though. If you need that look for motion pictures, then you need this lens or some equivalent thereof. Nikon uses it a few times in that (excellent) video sample on their website, and while I like the look (I even noticed what scenes it was being used for), I really don't think it's special enough for most people to drop the cash or carry the weight. At this price and weight, I would rent it for specific situations where it could add value rather than buy it and store it in a gear cabinet.

Very true. For video, if you for some reason need this specific look, there aren't a lot of options. The Mitakon 50/0.95 will get you close, and won't be as sharp of course, though depending on the video resolution it may still work. I can't imagine being able to nail focus in video with this, though. More skill than I have for sure.

Oct 11, 2019 at 06:42 PM

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It's a small detail, but that "Noct" font looks a bit junior varsity.

Oct 11, 2019 at 07:53 PM

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Arka wrote:
skilled photographer needs this lens to make great images. I imagine very few skilled photographers (or working photographers) would choose a normal prime that weighs nearly 5lbs (!!) over one that weighs far less.

Actually, I am quite sure many very skilled (and well-off, as well as highly-discriminating) photographers will purchase this lens, for the pure thrill and enjoyment of it. Connoisseurs, essentially.

I agree, the lens is not for a "working photographer," who can best be defined as usually broke, cost-conscious, weight-conscious, speed-conscious, struggling to get by, etc.

No, this lens is clearly for the photographic connoisseur. For example, a successful, retired photographer, who still enjoys the craft, producing image excellence, etc. ... And, for the sake of pure enjoyment, wants to work with the very best tools available "just because."

If we can draw a Japanese car comparison, Nikon and the production of this lens can be likened to Nissan Corporation and their GT-R supercar. This legendary Nissan racecar is not designed for every working blowhard in the world, nor for every broke deliveryman looking to use his car for his work. Come on now, let's be serious. Nissan's supercar is designed purely to show what Nissan can do ... and its ownership is limited only to those who can afford to enjoy it.

For any casual blowhard to decry Nissan for "making" the GT-R is simply a reflection of their jealousy and "have not" laments.

Even the casual viewer should be able to realize Nissan never made the GT-R for regular commercial sales, or for "every man," but simply for Nissan to flex its muscles as to what the company *CAN* do, if they set their mind to it.

In the same fashion, Nikon has created the Nikkor Z 58mm f/0.95 S Noct not for sale to the masses, not for "every man," but to simply show what Nikon can do, to be enjoyed only by those who can afford and appreciate it.

The Nikkor Z 58mm f/0.95 S Noct is a status symbol for Nikon, plain and simple.

And it is designed to be understood and appreciated as such, same as the Nissan GT-R is a status symbol for Nissan.

Oct 11, 2019 at 08:09 PM

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Light-N-Shadow wrote:
Actually, I am quite sure many very skilled (and well-off, as well as highly-discriminating) photographers will purchase this lens, for the pure thrill and enjoyment of it. Connoisseurs, essentially.

I agree, the lens is not for a "working photographer," who can best be defined as usually broke, cost-conscious, weight-conscious, speed-conscious, struggling to get by, etc.

No, this lens is clearly for the photographic connoisseur. For example, a successful, retired photographer, who still enjoys the craft, producing image excellence, etc. ... And, for the sake of pure enjoyment, wants to work with the very best tools available "just because."

If we can draw a...Show more →

But, as compared to Leica, who knows Nikon as a premium manufacturer? And who among the general public would be able to tell that lens apart from, say, a Sigma 35mm f/1.2?

Oct 11, 2019 at 08:34 PM

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AcuteShadows wrote:
And who among the general public would be able to tell that lens apart from, say, a Sigma 35mm f/1.2?

Again, for the slow, the Noct is *not* for the general public.

It is not for those without brains, without experience, nor for those deficient in the wherewithal to appreciate the difference in the finest glass versus common glass.

Anymore than the $125,000 Nissan GT-R is for car owners who can't afford it, who know nothing about handling, braking, acceleration, and who don't take much pleasure the sublime sensations of driving, failing to appreciate the difference between a Toyota Corolla and a Porsche.

The Noct is only for those with the photographic perception, discrimination, as well as the means to absolutely appreciate the finest modern optical excellence available. The rest need not apply.

If this needs any further explanation, then I am comfortable to let you meander aimlessly in your lack of comprehension.

Oct 11, 2019 at 09:05 PM

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I would buy this lens over a Leica lens for the same price IF I HAD $8k to spend for funs.
Btw, if for living, people can buy this lens because it's unique!

Oct 11, 2019 at 10:23 PM

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It is funny to see people bringing in affordability for a lens that only cost $8k or a car that only cost $125k into the scene as well to do. Maybe one should Google what ordinary folks in Hong Kong, Shanghai, Singapore and many other places in the world are paying for their homes and cars. Just a hint, many homes are over a million USD and cars for half a million USD. A 800 square feet home cost a few hundred thousand and a Corolla close to hundred thousand. And I am not seeing these people rushing to order one of the above lens or Nissan. 👻
By the way, isn't Nissan recently in a very bad financial situation? So, why didn't their Super cars sales and prestige help them in this situation?
Prestigious and Halo products that don't sell well does not help a company long term, and people not buying a product doesn't mean that they cannot afford it.

Oct 11, 2019 at 11:45 PM

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Light-N-Shadow wrote:
Again, for the slow, the Noct is *not* for the general public.

It is not for those without brains, without experience, nor for those deficient in the wherewithal to appreciate the difference in the finest glass versus common glass.

Anymore than the $125,000 Nissan GT-R is for car owners who can't afford it, who know nothing about handling, braking, acceleration, and who don't take much pleasure the sublime sensations of driving, failing to appreciate the difference between a Toyota Corolla and a Porsche.

The Noct is only for those with the photographic perception, discrimination, as well as the means to absolutely appreciate the...Show more →

I believe AcuteShadows was focusing on the end result, the print. I highly doubt the public would be able to tell the difference in print from the two lenses. One might feel privileged using the expensive lens, but where the rubber hits the road, prints hanging in galleries from many different systems would be hard to tell apart.

Oct 12, 2019 at 12:26 AM

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Jman13 wrote:
Yes?

And you can accomplish the same with a stitched 85/1.4. As I said in the reply just above this...if you need that look a LOT and you're willing to carry a lens of this size all the time, then sure...it makes perfect sense to pick this lens up. My point is that you can create that look without this lens if you had to, and you said there was no alternative to get that look. There is an alternative. It isn't as convenient, and it is more limiting, but it does exist.

I thought I was quite clear on my original reply to you.

Here are some sample images, which one you can stitch?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48881837708_507ceab03a_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48882365126_1ffd108835_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48881837258_ce77ef93be_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48880228511_312417a6b3_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48880420772_c5eb44a329_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48880364337_43ae610a02_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48879640148_b9e2181476_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48879640033_2ef9f85275_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48873964106_23b1315bf9_h.jpg

The lens has to be use this way to show its specialty. IF you put subject at 4 or 5 meter, you lost most this rendering magic and we might as well just use a 105f1.4 or 200f2 to throw everything away, however, shallow DOF(200f2) is one thing, but shallower DOF at 58mm is different world.

Stitch has a very narrow usage with subject in somewhere middle and shoot a lot more images.

There are other problems with stitch 85mm f1.4: many times, You have to be stitching corner to mid frame, because most fast glass are f2 or even slower at corner, not to mention vignette, and cat eyes, and busier look at corner as well, this potentially create artifact and unnatural look, maybe its enough for some web use but at full size? For multi-raw stitch, it also error prone and distortion prone to further create unnatural look unless you are on tripod with T/S glass but where is high speed TS glass?

Again, if stitching, I can use 58mm f.95 to get some 35mm f.6 or 28mm f0.5 images with 3 or 4 images single raw stitch easily, what is your option?

and then what about shooting night sky at o,95? What a bout video?

This lens is big and heavy, it is manual and expensive, it is a difficult to use lens, I get it all but it is special. My biggest complain is its ergo. I think if I buy this lens, under most close distance shooting, I most likely will move my body than turn focus ring for shooting

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Oct 12, 2019 at 01:40 AM

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Light-N-Shadow wrote:
Again, for the slow, the Noct is *not* for the general public.

It is not for those without brains, without experience, nor for those deficient in the wherewithal to appreciate the difference in the finest glass versus common glass.

Anymore than the $125,000 Nissan GT-R is for car owners who can't afford it, who know nothing about handling, braking, acceleration, and who don't take much pleasure the sublime sensations of driving, failing to appreciate the difference between a Toyota Corolla and a Porsche.

The Noct is only for those with the photographic perception, discrimination, as well as the means to absolutely appreciate the...Show more →

I’m thinking of creating a game based on this persons posts. I’ll print out and distribute some cards, with abusive words and insults on them. People can then tick off each one as and when they occur, and the first to tick off all of them can shout/post “bingo”. No prizes, although there are free help lines to call if you start to feel that you need someone calming to talk to.

Must dash, I have a skating lesson to get to.

Oct 12, 2019 at 01:45 AM

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Totally agrees with you Chez.
If someone is really interested into photography, having the best gears might not be as appreciative as making photos from whatever available gears they have. And I always enjoy pictures that came out of simple tools.
AcuteShadows shows one of those examples. At the end of the day, if one doesn't say what they used to make it, many would never even know or can tell the difference. A piece of good art is a piece of good art. Not the tools they used to make it.

Oct 12, 2019 at 01:46 AM

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Those are nice images a couple of posts back. I wonder if lots of fashion photographers will buy/hire this lens? After all, that’s a market with some money. Any fashion photographers here?

Oct 12, 2019 at 01:48 AM

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AcuteShadows wrote:
But, as compared to Leica, who knows Nikon as a premium manufacturer? And who among the general public would be able to tell that lens apart from, say, a Sigma 35mm f/1.2?

For real photographers, you have to be blind that can't differentiate 35mm f1.2 and 58mmf.95 images unless background is a white wall. For general public, they can't even tell your pro lens apart from iphone images.

I don't know who are this lens create for, but kudos to Nikon create it. Even viewing images from other capable photographers please my eyes. It is a different world, a new dimension.

I am shocking to see people need to put themselves at top and look down and put so much negativity on this introduction. If there is a universal standard about what lens should be looks like, the world will be so boring.

I don't think Nikon want make decent money out of it but it is an instant classic just like 58mm noct f1.2 created 50 years ago which is also not inexpensive.

Oct 12, 2019 at 01:57 AM

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LeifG wrote:
I’m thinking of creating a game based on this persons posts. I’ll print out and distribute some cards, with abusive words and insults on them. People can then tick off each one as and when they occur, and the first to tick off all of them can shout/post “bingo”. No prizes, although there are free help lines to call if you start to feel that you need someone calming to talk to.

Must dash, I have a skating lesson to get to.

It’s banned John. I wouldn’t expect anything less from him!

Oct 12, 2019 at 02:00 AM

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