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p.11 #1 · p.11 #1 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


I just got the 14-24mm.

my copy the 14mm looks very good. 24mm top right corner is a bit soft but that is nitpicking.

One thing weird is that the zoom direction is FLIPPED vs my sony 12-24mm. WHY? It is so weird. cant they fix the direction?



Sep 04, 2019 at 07:33 AM
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Received my Sigma 14-24 yesterday. It is a very well centered copy. I ran a few sets of infinity tests comparing it at 14mm to my Samyang 14mm, CV 15mm III, Batis 18mm. I also ran a few series of the Sigma at 20mm, and 24mm. I didn't have time to run comparison sets against my 24GM or 24 to 105 G. I ran sets of f/2.8, f/4, f/5.6, f/8 and f/11. Focused manually at center of frame on a sturdy tripod and with cable release.

I reviewed the results in LR compare mode and on a 5K monitor. The scene had both buildings and lots of trees with foliage. It is a very tough test for any lens, prime or zoom.

Bottom line, this lens is amazing for a zoom. It is strongest at 14mm, sharp across the entire frame all the way into the corners at f/2.8 through f/11. At every aperature it was clearly better than the Samyang 14mm MF FE lens. Not even close in the mid-frame and exteme corners. No surprise here.

At 15mm it was very sharp in the center and mid-frame starting at f/2.8 through f/11. The extreme corners were sharp but slightly less so than at 14mm and f/2.8 and f/4. But at f/5.6 through f/11 the extreme corners were as sharp as at 14mm. Compared to my Voigtlander 15mm III E-Mount lens the Sigma clearly was sharper at mid-frame and especially in the extreme corners at every aperature tested (f/4.5, f/5.6, f/8 and f/11). However, the Sigma and CV 15 sharpness levels were close at the center of the frame.

At 18mm it was very sharp in the center and mid-frame starting at f/2.8 and through f/11. The extreme corners were sharp but slightly less so than at 14mm and f/2.8 through f/5.6. Compared to the Batis 18mm at f/2.8 and f/4 the Batis had a slight edge in the extreme corners (I have an excellent copy of the Batis). But by f/5.6 through f/11 the Sigma catches up to the Batis in the extreme corners and I would call it a close draw at this point.

At 20mm the results are very similar to the 18mm with very sharp center and mid-frames at all aperatures and extreme corners good to very good at f/2.8, f/4 and f/5.6 with excellent sharpness in the extreme corners at f/8 and f/11.

At 24mm I can easily see that this is the weakest focal length especially in the mid-frame to extreme corners compared to the 14mm, 18mm and 20mm results. But at f/5.6 the mid-frame improves a lot and the extreme corners are very good but not excellent. At f/8 and f/11 the results at 24mm are excellent from center right through to the exterme corners. I know from prior testing of my 24GM and 24 to 105 G that the Sigma at 24mm will not be as good in the mid-frame to exterme corners as the 24GM at any aperature, especially at f/2.8 through f/5.6. At f/8 and f/11 the Sigma is only slightly behind. The Sigma's results across the entire frame are very similar to the 24 to 105 G at f/4 through f/11.

I did not notice any defraction at f/11 or any CA either at any focal length or aperatures.

So this lens looks to be a an excelllent Astrophotography lens (14mm and 15mm starting at f/2.8), I can see pairing it with my 24GM for shooting the milky way. As a general landscape lens it can cover from 14mm through 24mm with outstanding prime-like results at f/5.6, and especially f/8 and f/11. However, I would likely always choose to shoot my 24mm GM instead unless I decided not to carry it.

I will likely keep my Batis 18mm as it is an excellent copy and I can use it when I want to go lighter and it is much easier to filter with my Lee and Nisi 100mm filter kits or the CPL and Breakthrough ND screw on filters I have in 77mm size. It is also would be a better choice for travel photography and city nightscapes.

It will be interesting to see what filtering options come as this lens will surely be a successful seller. Also interested in what internal filter options may develop. Not sure if it would be a better trade off to have to remove the lens each time you want to put on a different strength filter or have to carry around the huge filters required for this bulbous lens.

Handling wise I find it not too heavy and certainly much lighter than compared to my experience using the Nikon 14-24 f/2.8 with an adapters on both my Sony A7R2 and Canon 5D Mark2.



Sep 04, 2019 at 07:35 AM
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Chuck Coyne wrote:
Received my Sigma 14-24 yesterday. It is a very well centered copy. I ran a few sets of infinity tests comparing it at 14mm to my Samyang 14mm, CV 15mm III, Batis 18mm. I also ran a few series of the Sigma at 20mm, and 24mm. I didn't have time to run comparison sets against my 24GM or 24 to 105 G. I ran sets of f/2.8, f/4, f/5.6, f/8 and f/11. Focused manually at center of frame on a sturdy tripod and with cable release.

I reviewed the results in LR compare mode and on a 5K monitor. The
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Nice to hear that it is very good at 14-20mm!

As good or very close as the CV15 and B18 for a zoom is good news


Something to think about, a zoom that could replace 2-3 primes...



Sep 04, 2019 at 07:48 AM
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theacguy71 wrote:
Nice to hear that it is very good at 14-20mm!

As good or very close as the CV15 and B18 for a zoom is good news

Something to think about, a zoom that could replace 2-3 primes...


Yes it is very good indeed. I would say it is easily the best 14mm and 15mm lens I've ever shot!




Sep 04, 2019 at 07:51 AM
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Ebay Australia is showing there is now a Nisi S5 filter adapter available for this lens. See here.


Sep 04, 2019 at 08:23 PM
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Chuck Coyne wrote:
Received my Sigma 14-24 yesterday. It is a very well centered copy. I ran a few sets of infinity tests comparing it at 14mm to my Samyang 14mm, CV 15mm III, Batis 18mm. I also ran a few series of the Sigma at 20mm, and 24mm. I didn't have time to run comparison sets against my 24GM or 24 to 105 G. I ran sets of f/2.8, f/4, f/5.6, f/8 and f/11. Focused manually at center of frame on a sturdy tripod and with cable release.

I reviewed the results in LR compare mode and on a 5K monitor. The
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Thanks for your detailed analyses Chuck! It's definitely an ultra wide zoom I'm considering adding to my bag.
I'm not surprised that a modern 14-24 zoom with so many corrective elements would outperform the tiny CV 15/4.5 in terms of resolution away from the center area.
How do you feel it compares to the CV 15/4.5 in terms of flare resistance, color rendering and sunstar rendering?



Sep 04, 2019 at 08:39 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Thanks for your detailed analyses Chuck! It's definitely an ultra wide zoom I'm considering adding to my bag.
I'm not surprised that a modern 14-24 zoom with so many corrective elements would outperform the tiny CV 15/4.5 in terms of resolution away from the center area.
How do you feel it compares to the CV 15/4.5 in terms of flare resistance, color rendering and sunstar rendering?


Fred I need some more time testing it. I did try shooting it towards the sun and it seemed to be ok but I have not tried shooting more directly into the sun to see what happens. I also have to try to check out the sun stars. More time needed maybe over the next few days I can get some testing in. In terms of rendering I really like the colors it produces and it has nice and contrast. Actually while comparing it to my Batis 18 and CV 15 I felt that it was very similar in look.



Sep 04, 2019 at 09:00 PM
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Chuck Coyne wrote:
Fred I need some more time testing it. I did try shooting it towards the sun and it seemed to be ok but I have not tried shooting more directly into the sun to see what happens. I also have to try to check out the sun stars. More time needed maybe over the next few days I can get some testing in. In terms of rendering I really like the colors it produces and it has nice and contrast. Actually while comparing it to my Batis 18 and CV 15 I felt that it was very similar in
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That's encouraging since color rendering and flare resistance were not great attributes for the Sony 12-24/4.

There is no doubt that off-axis, the CV 15/4.5 III got outperformed in resolution by many newer lenses like the Laowa 15/2, Sony 12-24/4 @15mm, and the new Sigma 14-24/2.8@15mm. Currently, the latter seems to be the best option for landscape/nightscape @14-15mm...but we are still missing the Voigtlander sunstars.



Sep 04, 2019 at 09:20 PM
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p.11 #9 · p.11 #9 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Thanks, just picked one up. 15% off

rvh23 wrote:
Ebay Australia is showing there is now a Nisi S5 filter adapter available for this lens. See here.




Sep 04, 2019 at 09:33 PM
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p.11 #10 · p.11 #10 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


Just received my L-mount version this afternoon. Hopefully I'll get outside to test it tomorrow.


Sep 04, 2019 at 10:08 PM
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Here are the four corners of my copy at 14mm F2.8, without refocusing between shots, cropped at 100% from 61MP .

Adobe DNG converter, CR minimal default sharpening. Note these are not the extreme corners but the furthest area where magnified view allows me to focus on the rooftop arial. Some asymmetry in the far LL corner but otherwise very impressive for f2.8 imo.

http://www.richardvanhoesel.com/test/[email protected]





Sep 04, 2019 at 11:19 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Thanks for your detailed analyses Chuck! It's definitely an ultra wide zoom I'm considering adding to my bag.
I'm not surprised that a modern 14-24 zoom with so many corrective elements would outperform the tiny CV 15/4.5 in terms of resolution away from the center area.
How do you feel it compares to the CV 15/4.5 in terms of flare resistance, color rendering and sunstar rendering?



Fred,
Took some shots this morning at sunrise to test for flare and see what the sun stars look like. Pretty much directly pointed at the sun in all these at different focal lengths. It looks pretty good to me



























Sep 05, 2019 at 06:32 AM
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p.11 #13 · p.11 #13 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


One other point for this lens.


Sep 05, 2019 at 06:37 AM
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p.11 #14 · p.11 #14 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


A couple of the sunrise this morning. I reallyt like to rendering, colors and contrast of this UWA.












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Sep 05, 2019 at 08:42 AM
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Sunstar looks clean, but I don't like the diverging ray shape. Does it look like that at all apertures?


Sep 05, 2019 at 11:59 AM
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p.11 #16 · p.11 #16 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


These two are beautiful images.
The rendering of the lens might’ve contributed but the most is from you.
Second one in particular is a spectacle.
Congratulations!



Sep 05, 2019 at 04:47 PM
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scalanc2 wrote:
These two are beautiful images.
The rendering of the lens might’ve contributed but the most is from you.
Second one in particular is a spectacle.
Congratulations!




Thank you very much. Yes there is some basic processing in LR, tonality adjustment, highlights lowered and shadows lifted a bit but fairly light. Combination of the nice rendering and some light processing. These were also quick hand held shots that I took in my front yard so they have a bit of noise with some high ISOs.



Sep 05, 2019 at 05:03 PM
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p.11 #18 · p.11 #18 · Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


When I look at a Van Gogh painting I do not ask myself which technique but I appreciate the result.
Now I need to live in the same place of you!
(not stating you’re VG level
)



Sep 05, 2019 at 05:39 PM
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grahamgibson wrote:
Sunstar looks clean, but I don't like the diverging ray shape. Does it look like that at all apertures?


No, the rays become less divergent as you stop down, and to my taste are best from about F16 onward. But I still much prefer straight-aperture-bladed lenses like Loxias or CVs when sunstars are a priority. Probably if there were one thing I would like to have seen done differently on the Sigma (apart from the reversed focus ring direction), it would be to have straight rather than rounded aperture blades. Especially for a lens obviously targeting landscape use.

Here are some test shots to illustrate the effect of aperture on the ray divergence (at 14mm).


http://www.richardvanhoesel.com/test/14-24sunstars.jpg



Sep 05, 2019 at 07:58 PM
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No, the rays become less divergent as you stop down, and to my taste are best from about F16 onward. But I still much prefer straight-aperture-bladed lenses like Loxias or CVs when sunstars are a priority. Probably if there were one thing I would like to have seen done differently on the Sigma (apart from the reversed focus ring direction), it would be to have straight rather than rounded aperture blades. Especially for a lens obviously targeting landscape use.

Here are some test shots to illustrate the effect of aperture on the ray divergence (at 14mm).


http://www.richardvanhoesel.com/test/14-24sunstars.jpg


Yes I agree and have seen the same result with the sun star at different apertures. To be honest I like the sun star more at f/11 even with a more diverging ray shape. I guess it’s a personal thing. Strait blades would be an improvement but I can live with this result.



Sep 05, 2019 at 08:35 PM
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