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FM Review: Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton

  
 
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GMPhotography wrote:
Not sure I’m going to get past the next few hours. Walking to a B&H now. Think there is a bank handing out money along the way. I went to Adorama yesterday and that was trouble and my wife caught me.


This is really funny ))



Jul 08, 2019 at 07:37 AM
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Here for entertainment


Jul 08, 2019 at 08:06 AM
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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · FM Review: Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton


Be careful. Wives are harder to replace than lenses.


Jul 08, 2019 at 08:07 AM
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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · FM Review: Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton


That's also what I hope Zeiss will do with the loxia line: a 15mm would be a great addition to the current family.

fplstudio wrote:
Thanks Fred for the test. This CV is now the new best wide angle for landscapes no doubts.
I may however get the AF GM 24 instead to pair with the CV21/3.5 and still eagerly looking for a future smallish CV/Loxia 15mm f/2.8 with astro & landscape performance and filter thread.




Jul 08, 2019 at 08:17 AM
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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · FM Review: Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton


Some advice i once heard,


“Screw the justification, just enjoy yourself . But the best one is one is manual focus the other is not. Simply

Now from your spouse I’ll send over the baseball helmet. I kinda got caught today. I went to Adorama this morning. Spent a little more than I thought I would”

YOLO


Btw dont listen to me , ive been divorced twice!! Lol


Im going to work, Have AC’s to fix, Enjoy the new 21...




Jul 08, 2019 at 08:45 AM
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p.3 #6 · p.3 #6 · FM Review: Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton


sandycrane wrote:
Be careful. Wives are harder to replace than lenses.


Yes, but lenses can be wildly more useful and rewarding than wives )) (ok, shameless wife bashing season officially open - please report this to the dutiful authorities ) )



Jul 08, 2019 at 08:45 AM
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p.3 #7 · p.3 #7 · FM Review: Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton


Let’s not get started. Lol


Jul 08, 2019 at 08:59 AM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Let’s not get started. Lol


I am getting in line to wait to buy Guy's golden copy of the CV 21 f1.4!



Jul 08, 2019 at 09:21 AM
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sandycrane wrote:
Be careful. Wives are harder to replace than lenses.



Agreed. Plus, no real development yet of this aspect on the buy/sell boards.




Jul 08, 2019 at 11:36 AM
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I have just started thinking of picking up a Loxia 21.

Any good reason to continue in that direction vs going with this lens?

I like the idea of 1.4 at a similar size but I know more about Zeiss's build quality and service.

Thoughts?



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DaveFP wrote:
I have just started thinking of picking up a Loxia 21.

Any good reason to continue in that direction vs going with this lens?

I like the idea of 1.4 at a similar size but I know more about Zeiss's build quality and service.

Thoughts?



Ive had Sony , Zeiss Batis and Voigtlander lenses

Ive never had the Loxia line, hopefully someone else can chime in on that line

Imo, i would and will not hesitate to buy/use Voigtlander lenses!!

The build quality is good, manual focus feel is right, the rendering (pop) I like a lot

FWIW, im not versed in a lot of different lenses and brands, The Voigtlanders i have leave me wanting for nothing..



Jul 08, 2019 at 04:51 PM
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philip_pj wrote:
The p1 comparison image fully illustrates the difference between a company that makes lenses for human hands to use, and one that makes life harder than it need be.

Some of Zeiss Loxia's visible ergo shortcomings, as compared here include:

Same diameter low rise aperture/focus rings; placement of fine knurled aperture ring too close to body (millimetres close) impeding functionality; fine knurling attracts dirt; waste of unused front barrel while jamming controls at the rear with overly busy design; focus ring incorporates distance scale on knurling within finger access section; hard to read index for chosen aperture (one of many lines
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Well put. As much as I like the Loxia's, I sometimes still struggle to unmount them. I'm still keeping them, because I like the results I'm getting from them and more importantly changing to CV now would mean having to deal with yet another new filter size. I have to say, though, CV sure have made things interesting.

nhsonyshooter wrote:
I made it through the night. GAS has subsided Looks like a beautiful option but I'll just have to make the 24GM work


+1. Looking at this thread, GAS briefly kicked in, but quickly subsided. I'm going to keep my Loxia 21 and will probably add the 24 GM at some point, because I need AF.



Jul 08, 2019 at 05:15 PM
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DaveFP wrote:
I have just started thinking of picking up a Loxia 21.

Any good reason to continue in that direction vs going with this lens?

I like the idea of 1.4 at a similar size but I know more about Zeiss's build quality and service.

Thoughts?


Zeiss has changed. And not necessarily in a good way. The new designs - Milvus, Loxia, Batis - don’t have the same impeccable ergonomics, don’t exude the same quality, and sometimes the look of the images is not that special, anymore. Technically correct, good rendering, good color, but sometimes no “Wow factor” in the new designs. Some of them have it, some not.
The new Voigtlanders, for me, are the “old” / new Zeiss - fabulous build quality and MF ergonomics, and a lovely blend of character and technical performance. There is that unquantifiable “magic dust” in those lenses ) (basically warmer colors and loads of microcontrast with realy nice OOF transitions).
I’ve had all the Loxias and a couple of Batis lenses (40 and 135). They are all getting replaced by a mix of GM (I sometimes need AF) and Voigtlander lenses.




Jul 08, 2019 at 05:36 PM
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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · FM Review: Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton


I have to say that the CV 21/1.4 + CV 40/1.2 make a killer 2-lens combo. Tried it today and used both equally.


Jul 08, 2019 at 09:11 PM
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I’m trying to raise the money for the 21. I actually decided awhile ago I want something wider than my 50 that was very fast . Thought this would be the answer and bought the 3.5 to hold me until I finished up with buying my Profotos which now I have and getting antsy for it. BH could not find there demo this morning and I was called to get the truck earlier to unload , so ran out of time.

Soooooooo my 3.5 is brand new , used it a little yesterday. My kids come to me Wednesday so they can bring me the box but if you want the 3.5 let me know. I will list this at some point



Jul 08, 2019 at 09:17 PM
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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · FM Review: Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton


Chris_88 wrote:
Well put. As much as I like the Loxia's, I sometimes still struggle to unmount them.


Get one of these for each of your Loxia lenses; it completely transforms the experience of mounting/unmounting them.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1571087/0#14666611



Jul 08, 2019 at 09:26 PM
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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · FM Review: Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton


Color and contrast reminds me of the 40/1.2 (or 50/1.2) Nokton.

Balboa Fun Zone, California
A7RIII + CV 21/1.4 (wide open)




  ILCE-7RM3    Voigtlander NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical lens    21mm    f/1.4    1/4000s    100 ISO    +1.3 EV  






  ILCE-7RM3    Voigtlander NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical lens    21mm    f/1.4    1/640s    100 ISO    +2.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM3    Voigtlander NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical lens    21mm    f/1.4    1/4000s    100 ISO    +2.0 EV  




Jul 08, 2019 at 09:34 PM
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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · FM Review: Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton


Yea they certainly match there brothers in CV. Theses look nice Fred I like the look

Btw I like the heavy vignette, it really keeps your eye into the frame. That’s a plus



Jul 08, 2019 at 09:44 PM
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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · FM Review: Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton


GMPhotography wrote:
Yea they certainly match there brothers in CV. Theses look nice Fred I like the look

Btw I like the heavy vignette, it really keeps your eye into the frame. That’s a plus


Same here. The vignetting does not bother me either, but it could be an issue for astro. Hopefully it will have a decent coma performance at f/2.



Jul 08, 2019 at 10:30 PM
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p.3 #20 · p.3 #20 · FM Review: Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton


Cont...




  ILCE-7RM3    Voigtlander NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical lens    21mm    f/1.4    1/1600s    100 ISO    +1.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM3    Voigtlander NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical lens    21mm    f/1.4    1/60s    160 ISO    +2.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM3    Voigtlander NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical lens    21mm    f/1.4    1/60s    320 ISO    +2.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM3    Voigtlander NOKTON 21mm F1.4 Aspherical lens    21mm    f/1.4    1/60s    1250 ISO    +3.0 EV  




Jul 08, 2019 at 10:31 PM
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