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gyoung143
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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · 50mm MF Nikon/fuji




Cadaver wrote:
The long nose is different than the pancake. I believe the best inexpensive Nikon 50mm lens is the Nikon 50mm 1.8 AIS long nose. Look for serial numbers within the 3135197-3304551 range. I've done tests comparing this lens with the highly regarded Contax/Zeiss 50mm 1.7 (shooting both at f2). The IQ was the same and the Nikon had a slight edge on the bokeh. For best results, shoot at f2 (not wide open).


How is it different from the pancake? See here http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/lenses.html, the lens design of all the 1.8s is the same until the G. Theory is that the E has less good coatings but even that is not confirmed.

Gerry



Jul 18, 2019 at 01:18 PM
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gyoung143 wrote:
I dont think the 'long nose' 1.8 is a different design to the pancake or af? I've never heard anyone say that before.
I've had a pancake and an af for nearly 30 years and they perform identically, and have lasted well so I don't think there's anything wrong with the build quality. I've used a 'long nose' in the past and I don't remember any noticeable difference. They are not nice at 1.8, but excellent stopped down to 2.8 at least.
I have a friends 50/2 Nikkor H to try at the moment. But the micro 55/3.5 is really good
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While both the Long Nose and the Series E designs are 6/5 designs, they do perform quite differently, with the Long Nose performing more like the 50/2 than the pancake. The most noticeable difference is in how close groups' 3 and 4 are to the aperture, which was reduced for the pancake variant over the 50/2 and Long-Nose designs.

The same optical design was used from the Series E through the AF-D, with differing barrel designs. All the pancakes are included in this. I've owned all these lenses and the difference between the Long Nose and the pancakes at wide apertures was quite noticeable.

The following story tells the tale of the Series E and pancake AI-S design, the Long Nose is not covered by that as it's a separate design

https://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/0060/index.htm

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Jul 18, 2019 at 02:41 PM
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gyoung143 wrote:
How is it different from the pancake? See here http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/lenses.html, the lens design of all the 1.8s is the same until the G. Theory is that the E has less good coatings but even that is not confirmed.

Gerry


It's similar, not identical.

The E and AI-S pancake are known to be the same optical design, which is confirmed by Nikon in the following post

https://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/0060/index.htm

Note the Long Nose is not covered at all, while all the variants of the Pancake design are specifically called out.



Jul 18, 2019 at 02:42 PM
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mawz wrote:
It's similar, not identical.

The E and AI-S pancake are known to be the same optical design, which is confirmed by Nikon in the following post

https://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/0060/index.htm

Note the Long Nose is not covered at all, while all the variants of the Pancake design are specifically called out.

Seems strange in that article to compare the compact 50/1.8s to the f/2 without any reference to the 'long nose' version in between! I have a pancake and an early af, and not surprisingly they perform identically!

Gerry



Jul 18, 2019 at 03:07 PM
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