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Archive 2019 · Pre-order Now: Tamron 17-28mm f/2.8 Di III RXD ($899)

  
 
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Sunrise on the Thames, bracket shots blended to deal with tonal range







Mar 07, 2020 at 04:18 AM
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Hey...just got this lens this week! Haven’t shot a bunch with it yet. Is there an optimal aperture for landscapes and sharpness throughout the image to the horizon?


Mar 07, 2020 at 03:24 PM
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Davidw25 wrote:
Hey...just got this lens this week! Haven’t shot a bunch with it yet. Is there an optimal aperture for landscapes and sharpness throughout the image to the horizon?


Really depends how close the foreground is and what focal length you are using. I typically try to shoot at apertures around f8, but I don't hesitate in using stops to f13 if the scene merits it.



Mar 07, 2020 at 03:29 PM
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That’s super helpful. I shot one at 14 and it seemed really soft in the background. I focused on the foreground which was super close to me ~2ft. I really need to get out and mess with different scenarios.


Mar 07, 2020 at 03:37 PM
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Get a Depth of Field app to know how deep will be in focus at a given focus point, focal length and aperture.

This is the one I use.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aimenrg.dof&hl=en



Mar 07, 2020 at 03:49 PM
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Davidw25 wrote:
That’s super helpful. I shot one at 14 and it seemed really soft in the background. I focused on the foreground which was super close to me ~2ft. I really need to get out and mess with different scenarios.


Sometimes you won't get enough depth of field, if your foreground is super close. In general, you want to focus about 1/3 of the way into your scene to maximize front to back depth of field. However, if you have really close detail, that still won't be enough to get from front to back, in which case, focus stacking comes into play. (You can search for some tutorials on focus stacking, and it's reasonably easy to do in photoshop).

For instance, this shot below was taken with your lens (and by your lens, of course, I mean the exact lens you hold in your hands, since it used to be mine ), with the ice in the closest parts of the foreground only about 7 inches from the front of the lens. The resulting shot is a result of 5 images, taken at various focus points from very near to far, and stacked in order to get everything in focus.

http://jordansteele.com/2020/cbus_ice_sunrise.jpg

Of course, that's an extreme example. In most situations, focusing about 1/3 of the way into the scene and shooting between f/8 and f/16 (depending on how much near detail you have) will get things good enough. You'll get a feel for it over time.

A depth of field calculator will help. For instance, if you were shooting at 17mm and f/14, with a focus point that was 2 feet away, the shot would be acceptably sharp from about 1 foot to 15 feet, and everything outside that zone would be out of focus. Note, that this will be for typical viewing of images...at 100% on an A7R III like you have, things at the limits of the depth of field may not look quite as sharp as those deeper into the plane of focus.



Mar 07, 2020 at 04:45 PM
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Haha. It is literally yours! Your description at the end is about exactly what happened. Also shot it hand held at 1/250. Focus stacking is doable for sure and I need to mess with it more. I really just need a day to go and shoot like 5-6 different shots in different ways.

I got the photopills app also, so I’m looking into the DOF calculator.



Mar 07, 2020 at 05:41 PM
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Also, be aware of diffraction. At apertures smaller than f/8 (on any lens), diffraction will soften the whole image somewhat. At fl11, the effect is pretty minimal. At f/16, it's more noticeable, and by f/22, there is considerable softening. Always a bit of a trade-off for lots of depth of field.


Mar 07, 2020 at 07:40 PM
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Jordan, do you check focus in the corners/edges? I've noticed if I focus on the center the corners/edges are a bit soft, I'm guessing it's field curvature and I need to update my sloppy technique


Mar 08, 2020 at 05:19 AM
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Davidw25
Buy a few old cheap different focal length manual lenses. They display the depth of field according to the aperture you're using. Starting out in the digital age is nice but I find people often miss out on the basics.



Mar 08, 2020 at 05:46 PM
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Clear blue sky is not necessarily always bad for landscape photography!

http://postmyimage.com/img2/918_DSC01331_5MB.jpg



Apr 04, 2020 at 09:11 AM
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By the way: What I like least with this otherwise really nice and practical lens is that it is TOO CONTRASTY.

Sure, there are other lenses which are that way, and it's more of a recent trend to make lenses contrasty to let them "pop".

But I find the files annoying to work with in PP. In high dynamic range scenes like landscapes you have to underexpose strongly, and then in post you have to push the shadows, sometimes so strongly that even with a sensor like in the A7III you really get noise. With the Tamron files, I have to tinker in Lightroom much more than with files from some other lenses.

I compare that to my wonderful Contax-Zeiss zooms: They have a medium (or medium low when wide open) contrast that makes working with high dynamic range scenes and editing much easier. If you want strong contrast, you can dial it in in post. IMO the clearly more versatile solution.



Apr 05, 2020 at 07:30 AM
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hasenbein wrote:
lens is that it is TOO CONTRASTY..


Even strange. I had one 17-35/2.8-4 through the adapter and now 24/2.8. Both are quite non-contrasting, with the 24th even more so. But 7artisan 28/1.4 that was very contrasting.



Apr 05, 2020 at 08:12 AM
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A lens will always transmit LESS contrast than what is present in the real scene, so a lens can’t be too contrasty. Rather it’s the sensor that can’t cope with the dynamic range in the scene. You can try graduated ND filters or make several exposures to create a HDR image or manipulate the image in post or combine those.

Older lenses were less well corrected, had less effective coatings etc, so they became less contrasty. So, when using older lenses you instead accept optical flaws with more post processing to deal with those optical flaws or more post processing to deal with the exposure iself.

Shooting film often meant using graduated NDs or filters to correct colours or manipulating contrast in black and white photography and subsequent dodge/burn etc in «post» i.e. enlarging the negative.

Just as we had to deal with the limited dynamic range of film, we have to deal with the limited dynamic range of digital sensors to capture a scene with a seemingly limitless dynamic range. Still we’re in a better place than we’ve ever been with the digital medium, I think.



Apr 05, 2020 at 08:52 AM
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Not my preferred walk-around lens, but I like the results.








Apr 26, 2020 at 12:05 PM
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Is the Tamron 17-28 now considered the best bang for your buck in a non-ultra wide zoom?


Apr 26, 2020 at 12:23 PM
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Is the Tamron 17-28 now considered the best bang for your buck in a non-ultra wide zoom?


Apr 26, 2020 at 12:23 PM
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It IS an ultrawide zoom.


Apr 26, 2020 at 12:40 PM
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I was excluding the Sigma 14-24 and the Sony 12-24

hasenbein wrote:
It IS an ultrawide zoom.




Apr 26, 2020 at 01:11 PM
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pjmsj21 wrote:
Is the Tamron 17-28 now considered the best bang for your buck in a non-ultra wide zoom?


The answer is Yes, it can produce a "bang!" for your back. Are you looking for a bang or a good image-producing glass?
You'll have a bang only.
And after selling it for half of the price (who need a bang?),
you'll buy a better lens, not a Tamron lens.




Apr 26, 2020 at 01:12 PM
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