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Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

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p.8 #1 · p.8 #1 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Newtographer504 wrote:
Thanks for advice, I’ve heard good things abt the sigma I think he’s looking for a little longer focal length though. The 24 GM is working great for me for a family photo lens, but my brother who is getting into photography via an A6000 fears the price and size (I know, I can’t convince him that it really is pretty compact).

Would the 24/1.8 Zeiss compare favorably though to the 24 GM on an A6000?

It has been a while that I shot with the 24/1.8, but WO, it's not as sharp as the GM for sure. And bokeh of the GM is definitely smoother. Finally, getting the GM means that he can upgrade to FF later.

Nov 05, 2018 at 08:52 AM

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p.8 #2 · p.8 #2 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

The 24/1.8 ZA on a crop sensor looks very similar to the 35/2.8 ZA (full frame). The latter is a bit sharper but rendering is alike. I've posted some crops showing them side by side a while back.
IMO the 24/1.4 GM offers a different look on full frame or crop sensors.

Nov 05, 2018 at 09:05 AM

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p.8 #3 · p.8 #3 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Mine finally made it!

First thing I noticed out of the box (much like everyone else) was how shockingly light and small it feels in hand. This, after reading about how others felt this way already.

Anyhow, attaching a sizing comparison of the other two rigs I was previously using for that FL range.

If this thing proves to be everything I have been seeing in other's impressions and @GMPhotography 's findings, the other two rigs may well be seeing much less time outside of my closet. lol.

Sony GM 24/1.4 + R3 - Size comparison with Fuji XF 16/1.4 + X-Pro2 and A9 + Sigma Art 20/1.4 by John Dizzo, on Flickr

Nov 05, 2018 at 01:23 PM

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p.8 #4 · p.8 #4 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

JohnDizzo15 wrote:
Mine finally made it!

First thing I noticed out of the box (much like everyone else) was how shockingly light and small it feels in hand. This, after reading about how others felt this way already.

Anyhow, attaching a sizing comparison of the other two rigs I was previously using for that FL range.

If this thing proves to be everything I have been seeing in other's impressions and @GMPhotography@ 's findings, the other two rigs may well be seeing much less time outside of my closet. lol.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1923/45012072404_53e74bc645_b.jpg Sony GM 24/1.4 + R3 - Size comparison with Fuji XF 16/1.4 + X-Pro2 and by John Dizzo, on Flickr...Show more →

I thought the same. The lens doesn't look that small from the picture and I guess we're all used to the big and heavy lens designs nowadays. Can't wait to see more of these GM lenses.

Nov 05, 2018 at 01:31 PM

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p.8 #5 · p.8 #5 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

hiepphotog wrote:
I thought the same. The lens doesn't look that small from the picture and I guess we're all used to the big and heavy lens designs nowadays. Can't wait to see more of these GM lenses.

It really is hard to tell from most images I've seen around the web. In person though, this thing is not very different from the Fuji 16/1.4 at all which is quite an astounding feat. The only real dimensional difference (from feel in the hand) is the length which is where the Sony is a little bit longer.

The Fuji is a stellar lens, but it is for a much smaller image circle. The fact that Sony (seemingly) has made something that is great optically and is able to fit it into a similarly sized package is black magic. lol.

Nov 05, 2018 at 01:45 PM

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p.8 #6 · p.8 #6 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Fred Miranda wrote:
Anyone tried the 24/1.4 GM as a 'casual' 35mm lens using the APS-C mode? I played around with it today and really like the results. Although lower resolution, still very sharp with same signature rendering. Here is a sample:

Thanks for sharing this, Fred, I am very interested in how it performs in crop mode. Anymore anecdotes about it's performance in crop mode? Can I forego a 35mm lens by using this in crop mode? How would you compare it to the other 35s you've used on Sony? Loxia 35/2, CV 35/1.7, Sony 35/1.4, Sony 35/2.8?

Would you say this lens (cropped or full) has a 3D effect like a CV 40 (cropped) or Loxia 25 (full)? I know you have mentioned that "I believe "over-corrected" lenses lose something in their rendering, which is clearly not the case with the 24/1.4 GM. Out of focus bokeh is smooth at close and mid-distances. The transition zone is not harsh and the lens does not disappoint in contrast either", which leads me to believe that it should have a nice 3D effect, cropped or full frame, but I have seen some posters mention that it looks flat. My take from the samples? I like the rendering, it looks like it gives the 3D effect I am looking for.

Nov 05, 2018 at 05:16 PM

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p.8 #7 · p.8 #7 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

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I will post some side-by-side comparing their rendering at f/2.4. (f/2.5)

Wonder if the value of the special sauce rendering and smaller size of the Lox will exceed the value of the excellent performance of the GM wide open? Was surprised the coma of the 24/1.4 was better than the Lox at 2.4, though the Lox is superb at 2.8. Giving up two stops for astro might not be acceptable, sigh. Will await the comparison of images.

Nov 05, 2018 at 05:33 PM

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p.8 #8 · p.8 #8 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Hi Fred

Only had my 24GM for about a week. Was just comparing the 24GM (in crop or 18mp/36mm) to my 40mm1.2 . Just wondering if you did any testing on these two like this and your thoughts. At 1.4 on both the GM clearly looks sharper. The 40 has been my favorite FE lens but now I wondering if the GM might take that spot

And do I really need both? More testing needed

Nov 05, 2018 at 08:48 PM

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p.8 #9 · p.8 #9 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Another has arrived.
Seconding everything JohnDizzo said.
Black magic! Great way to describe what Sony has done.

I shoot 95% long, 300mm and up, but really won't mind this lens in the cargo pocket
for the other possibilities.

Thanking Guy and Fred for the research.

Now if Sony could just pony up a 14 or 16mm version

Nov 05, 2018 at 09:47 PM

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p.8 #10 · p.8 #10 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

JohnDizzo15 wrote:
Mine finally made it!

First thing I noticed out of the box (much like everyone else) was how shockingly light and small it feels in hand. This, after reading about how others felt this way already.

Anyhow, attaching a sizing comparison of the other two rigs I was previously using for that FL range.

If this thing proves to be everything I have been seeing in other's impressions and @GMPhotography@ 's findings, the other two rigs may well be seeing much less time outside of my closet. lol.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1923/45012072404_53e74bc645_b.jpg Sony GM 24/1.4 + R3 - Size comparison with Fuji XF 16/1.4 + X-Pro2 and by John Dizzo, on Flickr...Show more →

Thanks for the picture. I was debating between getting Fuji 16 1.4 for my Xe3 OR Sony 24 GM for my 7R3, and at the end, I went with Sony 24GM (will receive tomorrow).
How do you think about Fuji 16 1.4 vs Sony 24 1.4?

Thanks

Nov 05, 2018 at 09:49 PM

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p.8 #11 · p.8 #11 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Fred Miranda wrote:
The 24/1.8 ZA on a crop sensor looks very similar to the 35/2.8 ZA (full frame). The latter is a bit sharper but rendering is alike. I've posted some crops showing them side by side a while back.
IMO the 24/1.4 GM offers a different look on full frame or crop sensors.

Thanks for your advice Fred and hiepphotog. I had good experiences with the 35/2.8, and the 55/1.8 which also has the Sonnar design. I’ll be sure to look up the comparison with the 24/1.8. Good point on buying the 24GM with capability of being able to upgrade to future full frame bodies. I’m sure he will catch the photography bug and subsequent GAS once he captures a few really special images.

We tried the 24 GM on his A6000 and it exhibited bokeh, soft but vibrant colors and close up sharpness which looked pretty similar to my 7r3 and untrained eye. It retains its character in terms of that smooth bokeh (like you said earlier, perhaps from the out of focus spherical aberrations).

Nov 05, 2018 at 11:36 PM

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p.8 #12 · p.8 #12 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Hello Newtographer504,

I was surprised to see that the 1.8/24 was the lens that I took most of my images in the last year with.

As an owner of the 1.4/24, I must state that the GM is superior, especially in

- bokeh (by quite a big amount)
- build quality and handling
- speed
- sharpness, especially wide open where it matters.
- CA

Nevertheless, the 1.8/24 is a fine, small, light and versatile lens. You can't go really wrong with it.

Cheers, Jannik

Nov 06, 2018 at 03:14 AM

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p.8 #13 · p.8 #13 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Fred Miranda wrote:
Final Thoughts:
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All I can say is that I hope Sony continues producing GM primes and that one day we’ll be treated to a 15/2 GM, 40/1.4 GM and 135/1.8 GM in the future!

The only thing I can disagree with you Fred, no 15/2 GM instead an 14/1.2GM!

Really hope the upcomming 12 lenses include such an 14mm prime so I can sell my Sigma 14/1.8!

Nov 06, 2018 at 06:54 AM

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p.8 #14 · p.8 #14 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

nobody23 wrote:
The only thing I can disagree with you Fred, no 15/2 GM instead an 14/1.2GM!

Really hope the upcomming 12 lenses include such an 14mm prime so I can sell my Sigma 14/1.8!

I was thinking about a 14mm or 15mm f/2 GM with superb coma performance from wide open. That's something the Laowa 15/2 could not do. How's the Sigma at f/1.8?

Nov 06, 2018 at 09:48 AM

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p.8 #15 · p.8 #15 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

umsl12 wrote:
Thanks for the picture. I was debating between getting Fuji 16 1.4 for my Xe3 OR Sony 24 GM for my 7R3, and at the end, I went with Sony 24GM (will receive tomorrow).
How do you think about Fuji 16 1.4 vs Sony 24 1.4?

Thanks
I haven't really had an opportunity to shoot with the GM yet as it arrived yesterday amidst my being booked with work/family for most of it (always seems to be the case on lens arrival day

).

Based on some quick preliminary playtime snaps though, it is a solid optic. Appears to be plenty sharp across the entire frame, distortion control is better than anticipated, flare isn't quite the issue it was made out to be by some, and OOF areas look softer than most 24's I have shot (including the XF 16). This may be largely due to the sensor size though when comparing to the XF.

The XF 16/1.4 was my favorite lens I had ever shot at that focal length and was the reason I retired the Canon 24 II and shipped the Sigma Art 24 back. The only real optical issue I had with the lens was that in harsh lighting conditions, you could get some purple fringing (but was not all that common in my shooting). Otherwise, it was the sharpest 24 FL lens I had ever shot and rendered beautifully (when in good light). This is why I'll also be keeping this lens.

The other issue with the XF lens when compared to the Sony is that the XF is for an APSC system. This is inherently the choke point for usability and performance for me. I shoot a lot in less than desirable light. Having the GM in front of these Sony ff sensors is key as I can now shoot at one of my favorite focal lengths in every kind of light I like to shoot in (in a comparably sized package).

I hope to be able to get some time to shoot my regular subjects with the GM soon so that I can get a real feel for it to be able to give you a verdict as to which one I like better overall.

Some nothingburger snaps. lol
Chickenpool

GM 24/1.4 - Quick snaps out of the box by John Dizzo, on Flickr
Closer to better exhibit oof background

GM 24/1.4 - Quick snaps out of the box by John Dizzo, on Flickr

GM 24/1.4 - Quick snaps out of the box by John Dizzo, on Flickr
Tried to induce some flare artifacts but could not get what I was seeing from some other people's samples. There is a smidgen of a purple one here, but nothing I would consider egregious based on the type of shot.

GM 24/1.4 - Quick snaps out of the box by John Dizzo, on Flickr

Nov 06, 2018 at 10:05 AM

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p.8 #16 · p.8 #16 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Fred Miranda wrote:
I was thinking about a 14mm or 15mm f/2 GM with superb coma performance from wide open. That's something the Laowa 15/2 could not do. How's the Sigma at f/1.8?

https://www.lenstip.com/506.7-Lens_review-Sigma_A_14_mm_f_1.8_DG_HSM_Coma__astigmatism_and_bokeh.html

You have to stop down to f/2.2 to get good (not perfect) stars and from 2.8 there is no coma.
Take into account, that 14mm make the stars become tiny and so the coma with it.
Overall its the best yet from Sigma.
But my need is speed!

Coma free...

Nov 06, 2018 at 10:29 AM

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p.8 #17 · p.8 #17 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

nobody23 wrote:
https://www.lenstip.com/506.7-Lens_review-Sigma_A_14_mm_f_1.8_DG_HSM_Coma__astigmatism_and_bokeh.html

You have to stop down to f/2.2 to get good (not perfect) stars and from 2.8 there is no coma.
Take into account, that 14mm make the stars become tiny and so the coma with it.
Overall its the best yet from Sigma.
But my need is speed!

Coma free...

If Sony could somehow match the 24/1.4 GM's coma performance in a 15mm lens at f/2, I'm sure you would be happy. It would be way more compact than the Sigma while perhaps offering better performance for nightscapes. Is that what you use the Sigma for?

Nov 06, 2018 at 10:43 AM

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p.8 #18 · p.8 #18 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

This may make me go dual system for astro Fred... if it becomes a real lens and coma is good. Wow:

https://www.canonrumors.com/patent-canon-rf-14-21mm-f-1-4l-yes-f-1-4/

Nov 06, 2018 at 11:56 AM

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p.8 #19 · p.8 #19 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

JohnDizzo15 wrote:
Tried to induce some flare artifacts but could not get what I was seeing from some other people's samples. There is a smidgen of a purple one here, but nothing I would consider egregious based on the type of shot.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4871/45700539602_9bd2776bc3_b.jpg GM 24/1.4 - Quick snaps out of the box by John Dizzo, on Flickr

Seems to do much better with the sum behind a thin cloud or haze. Post some pics with a clear bright sun, unobstructed, in different locations of the frame, and post please. If I have a bad sample it a simple matter of sending it back to BH. I don't think that is the case though. Even with a clear sky in full sun I can find a place to put the sun in the frame and get little flare. Much easier to get flare, sometimes loads of it, as my post showed. I find my Loxia 21, and even my Zeiss ZF 25/2.8, are in a different class. Regardless, I do like the lens.

Nov 06, 2018 at 12:45 PM

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p.8 #20 · p.8 #20 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

pdmphoto wrote:
Seems to do much better with the sum behind a thin cloud or haze. Post some pics with a clear bright sun, unobstructed, in different locations of the frame, and post please. If I have a bad sample it a simple matter of sending it back to BH. I don't think that is the case though. Even with a clear sky in full sun I can find a place to put the sun in the frame and get little flare. Much easier to get flare, sometimes loads of it, as my post showed. I find my Loxia 21, and even...Show more →
There were no clouds or haze and the sky was indeed clear out there yesterday. I also moved the sun around the frame and was actively looking for the appearance of artifacts. The reason why that was the only shot I posted from that sequence was that it was the only one that actually yielded something e.g. purple artifact. The few other shots from that vantage point were all free of artifacts.

I'll try it again when I have a minute but yesterday was about as much of a stress test as there could be so I am pleased.

Nov 06, 2018 at 12:56 PM

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