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Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

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p.19 #1 · p.19 #1 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

lol, thanks, yeah the shot was actually in Anhui Province PRC...but it was wet and cloudy just like home

Nov 28, 2018 at 12:29 PM

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Nov 28, 2018 at 12:42 PM

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GMPhotography wrote:
Okay update i bought the Haoge 67mm rectangle hood and it works without vignetting and you can actually grab the hood and take lens off body or at least use most of it

https://www.amazon.com/Haoge-Voigtlander-Panasonic-Fujifilm-Olympus/dp/B07D8ZD2VP/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1542218540&sr=8-2&keywords=haoge+67mm

I like the look of the lens hood, it comes with a cap, and offer protection for the lens, but is it effective for reducing flare/ghosting? My tests using the stock hood, with the sun just in various positions just outside/on the edge of the frame, left me concluding that the stock hood is not effective. The shots with and without were pretty much identical. If this hood only offers protection and looks nice, I might as well break the glass out of an old 67mm filter and attach it.

Nov 28, 2018 at 12:45 PM

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p.19 #4 · p.19 #4 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Have not tested it yet but nothing is better than what we where born with our hand.

It’s okay on the Sony. It’s far nicer on my small MF primes. I won’t use Sony’s at all. Hate those hoods

Nov 28, 2018 at 12:57 PM

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pdmphoto wrote:
I like the look of the lens hood, it comes with a cap, and offer protection for the lens, but is it effective for reducing flare/ghosting? My tests using the stock hood, with the sun just in various positions just outside/on the edge of the frame, left me concluding that the stock hood is not effective. The shots with and without were pretty much identical. If this hood only offers protection and looks nice, I might as well break the glass out of an old 67mm filter and attach it.

Agreed regarding the stock hood. It doesn't seem to do a whole lot.

The square hood seems to help some. But there is one thing that I've noticed that happens with the rectangle hood and not the stock one which is this flare/washout at the edges sometimes. Sample below.

GM 24 - Flare artifacts with rectangular hood by John Dizzo, on Flickr
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GMPhotography wrote:
Have not tested it yet but nothing is better than what we where born with our hand.

100% true. lol.

Nov 28, 2018 at 02:56 PM

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p.19 #6 · p.19 #6 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

What does this knucklehead conclude? Yep,I'm that lazy.

jtra wrote:
Comparison of: Sony GM 24mm 1.4, Sony 28mm f2, Sigma 24mm 1.4 ART E-Mount, Zeiss Batis 25mm f2, Samyang 24mm f2.8

Nov 28, 2018 at 03:41 PM

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Matt Kerby wrote:
lol, thanks, yeah the shot was actually in Anhui Province PRC...but it was wet and cloudy just like home

I think I'll have to sell my Batis, it seems the GM can keep up and do everything the Batis can do plus it's f1.4 , Even the size and weight (which is important to me) is very similar, basically a wash. I hate to take as big of a hit as I think i'll have to take on the sale of the 25B but...I think the GM is better

Yes, I feel tempted to keep both, but there just doesn't seem a reason to do so. I also have the Batis 18 and 85, so with the 25 they make a nice set. But that is not really much of a reason to not sell the 25 when I have the Sony 24. And there is a considerable hit on the selling price--I think they go for $800--$850 now.

Nov 28, 2018 at 08:33 PM

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p.19 #8 · p.19 #8 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

So I did a PR gig today a awards function and usually I shoot people chatting to each other in small groups like 2 to 5 people. So a great chance to shoot the Sony 24 in normal mode and also in crop mode. Well it worked perfectly focused essential the same in AFC and Eye AF. So I put the crop or APSC as a custom function on the focus hold button ( button on lens) and man is this awesome to work like this as my left hand is there anyway and I don’t have to take my right thumb off my back focus button or EYE AF button. I still have the crop function on C4 but you gotta reach for it which sometimes can be a pain but anyway the switch between crop and full frame is quite nice and smooth in operation. The only real downside is your shooting 18 max in crop but for work like this I don’t need more than 18mpx.

So let me continue on how I deal with the mix of 42 and 18 max in C1 . So since these are PR shots in post on output I’m doing JPEG, SRGB and than I set a fixed width of 12 inches at 300 dpi. Now not matter what it will always go to that dimension I set , so when I’m done processing I don’t know if it was 42 or 18 as the files sizes are identical and honestly what I want to deliver to client. They don’t need to know what your doing here.

The only negative I see is when in C1 looking at the lens data it always says 24mm regardless if I’m in crop or not. So how do I know and you may have this in LR as well but in my processing summary if I select a 18 max file in for example a full Tif file the 18 mpx file will be 54 mb and the full frame will be 112. Does this really matter maybe not but kind of nice to know especially when your trying this out when testing or after your done shooting.

One other trick not so much with this lens but working in crop mode I can increase the resolution back up in C1 and I found 50 percent more pretty safe if you want a bigger end file. So you can stretch or creatively cheat a little.

Finally with this I decided to bail on the Batis 40 as I really don’t need it for this work. So if your sporting a 24, 50/55 and 85 and willing to work in crop mode when needed or to eliminate another lens than it’s kind of a nice option to have so my 24 is 24/36 and my 55 is 55/82 and my 85 is 85/127.

Btw was using my Godox 860 and it corrected any diffrence in aperture Change going from 24 to 36

Nov 30, 2018 at 08:05 PM

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p.19 #9 · p.19 #9 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Does the same with 24. Set the APS-C mode on focus hold button, works like a charm. 24/55 is a great combo.

Nov 30, 2018 at 08:10 PM

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So I did a PR gig today a awards function and usually I shoot people chatting to each other in small groups like 2 to 5 people. So a great chance to shoot the Sony 24 in normal mode and also in crop mode. Well it worked perfectly focused essential the same in AFC and Eye AF. So I put the crop or APSC as a custom function on the focus hold button ( button on lens) and man is this awesome to work like this as my left hand is there anyway and I don’t have to take my...Show more →

You might want to go 24/50/135 which gives you 24 f/1.4; 37 f/2.2 (equivalent), 50 f/1.4, 78 f/2.2 (equivalent), 135 f/1.8, 209 f/2.8 (equivalent). For now you would need to go with the Sigma 135, but I expect a GM soon.

Dec 01, 2018 at 12:21 AM

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p.19 #11 · p.19 #11 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Actually I was going to sell the 55 and get the 50 1.4 back in my paws again. Lol

Loved the 50 1.4

Dec 01, 2018 at 12:31 AM

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p.19 #12 · p.19 #12 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

So, I joined the club and went for a first test run with 24 GM this weekend.
My overall impressions are very positive: fits perfectly on A7III (e.g. as compared to CV 35 1.4 Classic which I think is less comfortable to use because it's on the "too small" side), sharp, fast and silent AF, aperture ring (I think I won't be able to live without it soon

), really nice MF (though I still prefer "fully" manual voigtlanders a bit). Both 24 and 1.4 faetures are a bit new to me so I'm still getting used to it, but it looks to be a very fun combination.

However, I've run into some fringing (or whatever else it is?) mostly in the corners, can you tell me if this is typical of this lens?

JPEG OoC Shading and CA correction AUTO Sony ILCE-7M3 FE 24mm F1.4 GM ƒ/8.0 24.0mm 1/60s ISO500 AF-S flexible spot S:

And this is what I was able to salvage from RAW, interestingly enough CA correction (even with analyze run prior) introduced more fringing instead of reducing it, so I only set the fringing slider to max and disabled CA corretion altogether in CaptureOne:

Any thoughts? Important thing to note is that I was shooting with Hoya UV filter on, not sure if it can exaggerate the fringing effect.

Dec 01, 2018 at 02:51 PM

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p.19 #13 · p.19 #13 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Lots of schools of thought on filters like UV filters . Me I never use them. My thoughts are a 50 dollar piece of glass does not equal the 1k or more lens. Never will. Than the other thought I’d protect the front element and I understand that but I’m over shooting 40 years and I never damaged a lens ever. Luck who knows but I do NOT use a filter like that unless I’m shooting a mud race or something like that.

But the do and can cause problems with reflections and such. So really hard to say if that truly is the issue or the lens itself. You threw a variable in there so next time try with and without as a test.

Dec 01, 2018 at 03:11 PM

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p.19 #14 · p.19 #14 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Thanks for your quick reply.
Yes, I use the filters only for protection as I'm always paranoid I'll touch and smudge (permanently

) the front element otherwise. A retest will have to wait for the next weekend though...

Dec 01, 2018 at 03:21 PM

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p.19 #15 · p.19 #15 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

I wasn't able to do revisit the same woods in the end (and the sun is missing this time

) but I think this kind of fringing is typical for this lens. I got milder results in milder sun (as I understand my previous sample photo was a really demanding scenario - harsh winter sun against dense leaves and branches) such as this 1:1 crop of the upper left corner (no filter, jpeg ooc, f8):

This one cleaned up in CaptureOne nicely though.
Besides, I see a similar effect in the photos posted in this thread on dpreview forums.

All in all, this fringing and focus hunting in af-c when using small aperture (f8) on long distance objects are my only gripes about this lens (though I have no other wide angle lens to compare to).

Dec 09, 2018 at 06:47 AM

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p.19 #16 · p.19 #16 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Sony 24 1.4 in stock at Procam today.
http://procam.com/sony-fe-24mm-f-1-4-gm-lens

Dec 13, 2018 at 10:37 AM

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I guess when the stock is gone they removed the page too? Odd

Dec 14, 2018 at 09:18 AM

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p.19 #18 · p.19 #18 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

j4nu wrote:

So, I joined the club and went for a first test run with 24 GM this weekend.
My overall impressions are very positive: fits perfectly on A7III (e.g. as compared to CV 35 1.4 Classic which I think is less comfortable to use because it's on the "too small" side), sharp, fast and silent AF, aperture ring (I think I won't be able to live without it soon

), really nice MF (though I still prefer "fully" manual voigtlanders a bit). Both 24 and 1.4 faetures are a bit new to me so I'm still getting used to it, but...Show more →

The fringing in high contrast areas is a weakness of the lens. I use mine with no filter and get the same result. LR seems to do a decent job of removing most of it, although with some IQ loss.

Dec 14, 2018 at 11:51 AM

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p.19 #19 · p.19 #19 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

Thanks, I was able to snag one yesterday.

-Tim

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Sony 24 1.4 in stock at Procam today.
http://procam.com/sony-fe-24mm-f-1-4-gm-lens

Dec 14, 2018 at 11:58 AM

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p.19 #20 · p.19 #20 · Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Review

pdmphoto wrote:
The fringing in high contrast areas is a weakness of the lens. I use mine with no filter and get the same result. LR seems to do a decent job of removing most of it, although with some IQ loss.

Thanks for the confirmation, I bought a more renowned filter (B+W) but didn't have an occasion to test yet.
Still, most of my use cases will be environmental portraits I guess, so I hope not to run into this issue too often.

Dec 18, 2018 at 05:03 AM

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