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Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review

  
 
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phinix wrote:
Would this lens be fine for astro?
Not to be for astro specifically, but lets say if I had an opportunity, could I use it for astro?


I did use it for some astro when I started in that genre!

It works. But obviously the ISO needs to be cracked up a lot to compensate the small aperture.



Mar 08, 2023 at 02:52 PM
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p.48 #2 · p.48 #2 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


LeeRatters wrote:
I did use it for some astro when I started in that genre!

It works. But obviously the ISO needs to be cracked up a lot to compensate the small aperture.


Thanks Lee, that would be enough for me

Can you share some night/astro photos made with this lens?



Mar 08, 2023 at 06:22 PM
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p.48 #3 · p.48 #3 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


St. Ursula`s Milky way...

Sunflowers, clouds and the Milkyway

Vertical Milkyway...

Using stack and track this little lens is great, no coma wide open...

Cheers, A.



Mar 10, 2023 at 12:38 PM
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p.48 #4 · p.48 #4 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


bobek13 wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48093853058_c270629a29_h.jpgSt. Ursula`s Milky way...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48545666572_f12601d4d2_h.jpgSunflowers, clouds and the Milkyway

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48553355167_cd37717563_h.jpgVertical Milkyway...

Using stack and track this little lens is great, no coma wide open...

Cheers, A.


Stack and track?
How do you do that?

Edited on May 05, 2023 at 03:48 AM · View previous versions



Mar 10, 2023 at 08:44 PM
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p.48 #5 · p.48 #5 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


I recently used this wonderfull little lens to shoot inside the Basilica at the Mission San Diego D Acala. It was dark but this lens was still fast enough to manage it. It produced nice, sharp images, easily corrected distortion, and with rendering that added to the venue. It was wide enough for the small size of this interior. The size of this lens makes it easy to carry with you in a pocket.

Shot on my Leica M10-P.


Enjoy!



























Mar 10, 2023 at 10:07 PM
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p.48 #6 · p.48 #6 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Use a tracker so you can do longer exposures at lower ISO, and then stack them in software to furter raise the signal to noise ratio...

On Flickr there are all the technical details listed.

Cheers, A.

phinix wrote:
Stack and track?
How do yo do that?




Mar 11, 2023 at 04:03 AM
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p.48 #7 · p.48 #7 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


After sunset, the high clouds had some nice colour for a minute...










Mar 12, 2023 at 02:12 AM
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bobek13 wrote:
Use a tracker so you can do longer exposures at lower ISO, and then stack them in software to furter raise the signal to noise ratio...

On Flickr there are all the technical details listed.

Cheers, A.



Jeez, so it wasn't just simply shot.
I just looked into it - so there was this tracker (some device that moves your camera slowly during long exposures?), then you had two main photos - stars and background, multiple shots, stacked, then merged both...
Too much work for me



Mar 12, 2023 at 08:12 PM
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p.48 #9 · p.48 #9 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


phinix wrote:
Thanks Lee, that would be enough for me

Can you share some night/astro photos made with this lens?


Only these very early ones....

It's not really a lens I would consider if I wanted to shoot night skies fairly seriously as nice a lens that it was to use & own.

*** by Lee, on Flickr

*** by Lee, on Flickr

*** by Lee, on Flickr

*** by Lee, on Flickr



Mar 14, 2023 at 03:19 PM
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LeeRatters wrote:
Only these very early ones....

It's not really a lens I would consider if I wanted to shoot night skies fairly seriously as nice a lens that it was to use & own.

https://live.staticflickr.com/7853/46831503004_5a66de9482_b.jpg*** by Lee, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33738811068_ec98ec0fc0_b.jpg*** by Lee, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46723088685_1cd4359484_b.jpg*** by Lee, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33821448178_c857ddfeb9_b.jpg*** by Lee, on Flickr


Fantastic photos!
How did you take them? Just camera on tripod and long exposure? Or did you use some filters, or stacking or some other things?
Do you still have that lens or sold it?



Mar 14, 2023 at 05:59 PM
 


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p.48 #11 · p.48 #11 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


LeeRatters wrote:
Only these very early ones....

It's not really a lens I would consider if I wanted to shoot night skies fairly seriously as nice a lens that it was to use & own.

https://live.staticflickr.com/7853/46831503004_5a66de9482_b.jpg*** by Lee, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33738811068_ec98ec0fc0_b.jpg*** by Lee, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46723088685_1cd4359484_b.jpg*** by Lee, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33821448178_c857ddfeb9_b.jpg*** by Lee, on Flickr




Not bad for a 3.5 aperture.



Mar 15, 2023 at 03:16 AM
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p.48 #12 · p.48 #12 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Does anyone has both - E and VM versions to show both together?
I wanted to see how they compare size wise..



Mar 15, 2023 at 06:56 AM
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p.48 #13 · p.48 #13 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


phinix wrote:
Fantastic photos!
How did you take them? Just camera on tripod and long exposure? Or did you use some filters, or stacking or some other things?
Do you still have that lens or sold it?


Thank you! Looking at the exif I would say the third image was 6x stacked & the others were all single shots.

I was just starting out back then so no filters, no intervalometer, no tracker...... Tripod & a 2 sec timer I expect.

I sold the lens about a year ago.

They were taken on my original A7 too.



Mar 16, 2023 at 02:18 PM
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p.48 #14 · p.48 #14 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


sergun wrote:
Not bad for a 3.5 aperture.


Thanks. And shot on the A7.



Mar 16, 2023 at 02:19 PM
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p.48 #15 · p.48 #15 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Can someone please show a photo at MFD with E mount version?
I would like to see that 20cm minimum compared to 50cm of VM version.



Mar 22, 2023 at 05:44 PM
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p.48 #16 · p.48 #16 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


phinix wrote:
Can someone please show a photo at MFD with E mount version?
I would like to see that 20cm minimum compared to 50cm of VM version.


wide open presumably?



Mar 22, 2023 at 07:59 PM
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p.48 #17 · p.48 #17 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


photonoclast wrote:
wide open presumably?


Yes please
I wonder what kind of magnification it gives at closest distance (~20cm).
I have Sigma 24mm 3.5, which gives 1:2 macro, but I know this CV won't do that.



Mar 23, 2023 at 11:28 AM
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p.48 #18 · p.48 #18 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


phinix wrote:
Yes please
On some known item, so I know the dimensions etc
I wonder what kind of magnification it gives at closest distance (~20cm).
I have Sigma 24mm 3.5, which gives 1:2 macro, but I know this CV won't do that.





Mar 23, 2023 at 11:28 AM
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p.48 #19 · p.48 #19 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Also, what is the focus throw on both, E and VM version?
I hate long focus throw on E mount 40mm, I hope this 21mm isn't the same.



Mar 28, 2023 at 07:39 PM
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p.48 #20 · p.48 #20 · Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5 Color Skopar Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
TimeLapse test using Camrote. (1450 images with 3s delay) 24 frames/s

"Swim into the Sunset"
Voigtlander 21/3.5 VM + A7R II


BTW: To watch it in 4K, you must use a browser other than Safari. (Apparently Safari does not support Youtube 4k anymore)

Here are some stills from the shooting:


Wow, I saw that video while ago and just realised its you swimming there

Cool, great to see that VM works flawlessly on Sony.
I'm trying to hunt one down, that VM II version and use on A7C.



Mar 29, 2023 at 02:19 PM
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