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Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review

  
 
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Extreme Corner Infinity Resolution/contrast comparison between CV 50mm f/1.2 SE vs CV 50mm f/1.2 VM + adapter on Sony





Extreme corner at f/2: The SE version is about 2 stops ahead.







Extreme corner at f/2.8: Both lenses improve but the VM + adapter is still about 2 stops behind.







Extreme corner at f/4: The SE's extreme corner is optimal at f/4 while the VM + adapter needs smaller apertures to catch up







Extreme corner at f/5.6: The VM + adapter gets close but still a stop behind







Extreme corner at f/8: They look very similar now as the VM + adapter gets very close to the performance of the SE (but still not quite as good)




Aug 14, 2020 at 07:27 PM
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p.34 #2 · p.34 #2 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


My conclusion is that the CV 50/1.2 VM (Leica M) version does not perform optimally on the Sony sensor. Same performance at center but about 2 stops behind off-axis (away from center) due to induced field curvature. If you have a Sony, I highly recommend either the CV 50/1.2 E-mount or CV 50/1.2 SE E-mount versions.


Aug 14, 2020 at 08:00 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
My conclusion is that the CV 50/1.2 VM (Leica M) version does not perform optimally on the Sony sensor. Same performance at center but about 2 stops behind off-axis (away from center) due to induced field curvature. If you have a Sony, I highly recommend either the CV 50/1.2 E-mount or CV 50/1.2 SE E-mount versions.


How does the Voigtländer 50/1.2 VM fare on a Nikon Z7? I'm curious whether there would be similar effects as on the Sony, or if they would be qualitatively or quantitatively different.




Aug 14, 2020 at 09:41 PM
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AcuteShadows wrote:
How does the Voigtländer 50/1.2 VM fare on a Nikon Z7? I'm curious whether there would be similar effects as on the Sony, or if they would be qualitatively or quantitatively different.


I have not tested this but I would bet you would see similar induced field curvature when using the 50/1.2 VM on the Z7 sensor.



Aug 15, 2020 at 01:21 AM
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p.34 #5 · p.34 #5 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
I have not tested this but I would beat you would see similar induced field curvature when using the 50/1.2 VM on the Z7 sensor.


I don't think there's any reason to resort to beatings.



Aug 15, 2020 at 01:40 AM
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p.34 #6 · p.34 #6 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


freaklikeme wrote:
I don't think there's any reason to resort to beatings.





This thread needs more pictures!




Aug 15, 2020 at 01:59 AM
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p.34 #7 · p.34 #7 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Your wish is my command:
Fishing for mullet by petergthomas, on Flickr

Bluebell wood_3 by petergthomas, on Flickr

Bluebell wood_4 by petergthomas, on Flickr

Voigtlander 50mm f1.2 Nokton Aspherical E-Mount. Original version bought July 2019
The bluebell wood shots are cross-posted with the FE images thread.



Aug 15, 2020 at 03:26 AM
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p.34 #8 · p.34 #8 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


And a few more with the same lens, from last year:

Texel by petergthomas, on Flickr

Bett by petergthomas, on Flickr



Aug 15, 2020 at 03:43 AM
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p.34 #9 · p.34 #9 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review




My kid, f/1.2



Aug 15, 2020 at 07:30 AM
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hesb wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50224443238_134c4e1bd3_b.jpg

My kid, f/1.2


Wow. Beautiful image!



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p.34 #11 · p.34 #11 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Super

A 50/1.2 is so so useful. Perfect FL for everything with added bonus of blur...compared to something 35ish..i love portraits from this lens.

hesb wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50224443238_134c4e1bd3_b.jpg

My kid, f/1.2




Aug 15, 2020 at 09:25 AM
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Aside from the difference in focal length, here are the CV 50/1.2 Nokton advantages compared to the CV 40/1.2:

1) The CV 40/1.2 is equipped with 10 aperture blades (10-point sunstar) while the 50/1.2 has 12 for 12-point sunstars. The extra 2 aperture blades also yields slightly rounder specular highlights when stopped down. There are some shooters who prefer 10-point sunstars but I prefer sunstars with 12. All recent Voigtlander lenses have 12 aperture blades.

2) The CV 40/1.2's field of view is narrower than 40mm. It's about 42mm while the CV 50/1.2's FOV is a bit wider (49mm). So, if you are considering the 40mm for that wider FOV, in reality they are not as far apart in terms of field of view as the numbers suggest. (~7mm instead of 10mm).

3) The CV 50/1.2's transition zone is smoother compared to the 40/1.2's. Overall rendering is more pleasant to my eyes. It seems like Voigtlander changed their aspherical moulding process as well since the 50/1.2's specular highlights are pretty much free of onion ring pattern which is not the case with the 40/1.2.

4) Neither lens is equipped with a floating element group which means they won't perform optimally at close distance. However, it's less of an issue with the 50mm because one would usually stay a bit further away from the subject. The further the better performance (less spherical aberration). This is even more of an issue with the new 35/1.2 Nokton since compositions tend to be closer to the subject at 35mm.

5) The CV 50/1.2 is a better lens optically. Stronger resolution/contrast at center and across the field. (less field curvature and focus shift as well)

6) When using the 50/1.2 VM on a Leica M body, you will have frame lines available which is not the case with the 40/1.2.



Aug 15, 2020 at 11:17 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Aside from the difference in focal length, here are the CV 50/1.2 Nokton advantages compared to the CV 40/1.2:

I appreciate your careful and practical summary. There’s so much to wade through, and then consider




Aug 15, 2020 at 11:56 AM
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p.34 #14 · p.34 #14 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


hesb wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50224443238_134c4e1bd3_b.jpg

My kid, f/1.2


Wonderful portrait Sebastien.

A couple that must be close to the minimum focussing distance:

Wheat_2 by petergthomas, on Flickr

Cooling down by petergthomas, on Flickr



Aug 15, 2020 at 03:11 PM
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p.34 #15 · p.34 #15 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Great pictures everyone!

After a year with the CV50/1.2 FE, I started using less of my other lenses and relied mostly on the CV even for landscape shots (panorama). What I need now is only a short-tele for the nokton line; something along a 90/1.5, /1.8 or /2 with the same rendering as the 50/1.2 would be perfect!



Aug 16, 2020 at 08:17 AM
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p.34 #16 · p.34 #16 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Maybe someday the 75mm 1.5 will be available for sony emount! let's hope!


Aug 16, 2020 at 10:12 AM
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hesb wrote:
Maybe someday the 75mm 1.5 will be available for sony emount! let's hope!


In the meantime, the CV 75/1.5 VM performs the same on both Leica and Sony:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1647789/0#15237590



Aug 16, 2020 at 11:34 AM
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p.34 #18 · p.34 #18 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Yes I know, I have red your post with attention. It is just that I prefer having native lens mostly because I find it to be more convenient (exif, nothing else to carry...)

I would not buy an expensive lens if I have to adapt it. When I adapt lenses, it for fun, like with my FD lenses!



Aug 16, 2020 at 02:46 PM
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p.34 #19 · p.34 #19 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


My kids playing around. Mostly wide open at f/1.2.

(The Leica does not report correct aperture)



























Aug 16, 2020 at 08:26 PM
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p.34 #20 · p.34 #20 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


So, you now favoring this lens over the 40/1.2?


Aug 16, 2020 at 10:52 PM
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