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Archive 2018 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?

  
 
NateWeatherly
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p.1 #1 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?


I’ve seen a lot of lens tested at infinity with the Kolari Ultrathin, but very few that show the changes in lens character/bokeh at closer focus distances.

With the Batis 40mm f/2 on the horizon I’m especially interested in how the Kolari UT would affect my M-Rokkor 40mm f/2. Love that lens, but at f/2 the smearing is too much for anything other than centered subjects in portraits. Anyone have examples?

Same with my Summilux 50mm Pre-asph. I’m trying to decide how much of the wide open field “smudge” is the just the lens and how much is the sensor stack. I know that this lens is designed with the rear element closer to the sensor than most 50mm lenses.

Thanks!




Aug 03, 2018 at 03:27 PM
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p.1 #2 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?


I have a different UT mod than the Kolari one, but I could see what I could do with the CV35mm f/1.2. It has major improvement.


Aug 04, 2018 at 06:37 PM
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p.1 #3 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?


have you seen my kolari UT mod review? it has bokeh comparisons for the ZA 35/1.4 and cv 35/1.7 compared to a stock sony.

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-kolari-ultra-thin-sensor-stack-modification/

bokeh is definitely improved on lenses that have outward field curvature with the UT mod.




Aug 04, 2018 at 09:23 PM
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p.1 #4 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?


I'd be really interested to see how an a7S with UT mod and AA filter removed would perform. I'm still considering it, but I read the reviews from Lensrentals that didn't show too much improvement of the color shift / corner smearing issues with WA M mount lenses. That would have been my main goal in getting it done.

Still curious, so maybe someday.



Aug 04, 2018 at 09:40 PM
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p.1 #5 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?


Just an FYI for those not following the 'Monochrome emount' thread, but genji has been in contact with Kolari Vision and "they are working on a monochrome and color version of a new thin filter option, which would be thinner than the UT with better color accuracy." - from https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1538426/5#14435181

So it may pay to wait a bit



Aug 05, 2018 at 05:16 AM
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p.1 #6 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?




RnRau wrote:
Just an FYI for those not following the 'Monochrome emount' thread, but genji has been in contact with Kolari Vision and "they are working on a monochrome and color version of a new thin filter option, which would be thinner than the UT with better color accuracy." - from https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1538426/5#14435181

So it may pay to wait a bit



Nice! Really good to know. Thanks for the heads up!



Aug 06, 2018 at 01:58 PM
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p.1 #7 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?


NateWeatherly wrote:
Same with my Summilux 50mm Pre-asph. I’m trying to decide how much of the wide open field “smudge” is the just the lens and how much is the sensor stack. I know that this lens is designed with the rear element closer to the sensor than most 50mm lenses.

I don't recall any sensor problems with my 'lux M 50 v2, and I use a stock A7ii. Do you have any sample images?



Aug 06, 2018 at 04:55 PM
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p.1 #8 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?


Original A7R2 + Leica 35/1.4 ASPH. (11663)


Mod. A7R2 (NKIR v1 == 1.6mm) + Leica 35/1.4 ASPH. (11663)


Mod. A7R2 (NKIR v3plus == 0.75mm) + Leica 35/1.4 ASPH. (11663)


All shot at f/1.4. It's easily to tell difference on bokeh.



Aug 06, 2018 at 10:14 PM
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p.1 #9 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?


Here are some comparisons of off center focusing with the CV35mm f/1.2 II on a NIK V3+ .75mm sensor mod.

Full scene:


CV35 Original Sensor Stack f1.2 by Mike Aubrey, on Flickr


CV35 Thin Sensor Stack f1.2 by Mike Aubrey, on Flickr

Focusing is all on the "OF".

Wide open:
CV35 f1.2 by Mike Aubrey, on Flickr

@f/2

CV35 f2.0 by Mike Aubrey, on Flickr


@f/2.8

CV35 f2.8 by Mike Aubrey, on Flickr



Aug 14, 2018 at 04:37 PM
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p.1 #10 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?


rico wrote:
I don't recall any sensor problems with my 'lux M 50 v2, and I use a stock A7ii. Do you have any sample images?


Sure. Here’s a wide-open shot. Top and bottom of the tree are a bit smeared and the corners get a bit busy/distorted due to field curvature.

Http://www.nateweatherly.com/shared/images/_a731782.jpg



Aug 20, 2018 at 09:51 PM
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p.1 #11 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?


I've removed the content of this post since I've found out the mod in my A7ii was bad. The focus plane was tilted and I believe it was because of a very small dust particle between the UT glass and the sensor.

I did the modding in Europe, it was a bad idea ! but customs from USA to Europe makes it very expensive to send the camera to Kolari. I think I'll stay with my M10 for a while.

Edited on Jan 06, 2020 at 02:57 PM · View previous versions



Nov 18, 2018 at 12:49 PM
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p.1 #12 · Kolari UT Mod portrait distance or bokeh examples?


dukenuken wrote:
Hi, I've been doing lots of tests since I've left Leica (3 years using M9 and M10) to be sure what are going to be the consequences.... focusing at short distances and infinity. Today I've made this test to post it here...

Focus distance was about 5 meters. In the center of the image (pinecone).
This is the general view (taken with the 50mm):

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4884/31002489397_4cb6057143_b.jpgSony A7ii Kolari UT vs Sony A7Riii by Luis, en Flickr

The test is with the Sony A7II Kolari UT (converted in Europe) and the stock Sony A7RIII. I have converted to JPG and down sampled to 24MP the files
...Show more

I find your conclusion interesting. I like the bokeh from the Kolari modified camera a lot better and I came to that conclusion before looking at which was which. Bokeh is of course subjective and that is just my view, but from these samples I would come to the opposite conclusion that you have.



Nov 19, 2018 at 11:34 AM





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