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Archive 2018 · Travel and only bring iPhone. Fulfilling? (please note edit in #1)

  
 
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Sorry folks I just had to make this a separate topic

OK so some of you know we’re going on a trip to Western Australia. Despite being a photography enthusiast and despite having always brought lots of gear on our many travels, I just had a crazy and most courageous thought.

What if I just leave all dSLR gear at home and only bring iPhone and binoculars. Anyone tried this? Was it fulfilling?

Now I don’t have a second - lightweight - kit like Fuji’s and such, nor will I be able or willing to acquire such, especially since were leaving in a couple of weeks.

The reasoning behind this thought is:
- I am the only one in the family who cares for creating serious imagery. Therefore, wife and kids want to move on during walks while I am just still in the process of slinging my camera around and changing lenses to get ready to photograph whatever it is they have already seen.
- creates tension sometimes
- I used to be strong and managed to catch up with the party but my health is not what it used to be
- I have never really experienced not having a high end camera on trips and am curious if there are pluses or just minuses.

So, anyone?

Thanks,
Ralph

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Edit: I am sorry but the title is a little limiting with respect to the rest of the topic. I.e. I eventually took my iPhone and a 5D4 w/ 100-400ii and mixed the photos. As from the end of August we're back from our trip.

I left the title unchanged for the sake of recognisability and as to not to confuse the discussion.


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Jun 28, 2018 at 04:20 PM
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I did this on an overnight trip to Prague for my best friend's bachelor party at the end of April. Only bought a tiny Manfrotto tripod for more stable video shooting (I took a shot at this "vlogging" thing and appart from the fact that it badly needed a voiceover or some other form of talking and explaining, it didn't suck IMO). Before the trip I made plans to shoot "RAW + JPG" on my Galaxy S7. Unfortunately I only found out it saves RAWs when specifically in "Pro" mode which cannot be accessed by any shortcut (double tap home button or from a lockscreen), so I only had a handful of RAWs to work with.

I only did this because I knew we would drink somewhat and that the purpose of this trip wasn't exploring the city. And because if I want to, I can be in Prague in 4 and half hours. So it's not a huge problem to go back for a photo trip if I want to.

On the other hand, traveling to Western Australia is something you can't do every weekend. Won't you regret having only cellphone photos?



Jun 28, 2018 at 04:30 PM
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Milan Hutera wrote:
On the other hand, traveling to Western Australia is something you can't do every weekend. Won't you regret having only cellphone photos?


Depends on what's chasing you...



Jun 28, 2018 at 04:37 PM
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rabbitmountain wrote:
Sorry folks I just had to make this a separate topic

OK so some of you know we’re going on a trip to Western Australia. Despite being a photography enthusiast and despite having always brought lots of gear on our many travels, I just had a crazy and most courageous thought.

What if I just leave all dSLR gear at home and only bring iPhone and binoculars. Anyone tried this? Was it fulfilling?

Now I don’t have a second - lightweight - kit like Fuji’s and such, nor will I be able or willing to acquire such, especially since were leaving
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That's why I started doing Astro.
Go out at night in the middle of nowhere when everyone else is sleeping. Grab binocs or a tracker and take it all in!
During the day use your phone and drink lots of coffee.



Jun 28, 2018 at 04:37 PM
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Milan Hutera wrote:
On the other hand, traveling to Western Australia is something you can't do every weekend. Won't you regret having only cellphone photos?


Yes that is the question. I think I will. However I managed to get a decent RAW photo workflow with my iPhone 8 Plus and it works reasonably well.

A similar question would be that if the dSLR kit goes on the plane, will I bring my 100-400II + 1.4x as well? Because if not, I will only bring my 24-70 and I won’t be able to shoot wildlife. In that scenario, body + 24-70 has about the same reach as an iPhone. Not bringing 100-400 means no time lost in changing lenses and shooting of course.

Without 100-400 the photos I bring home will be 90% scenery and some family snaps. I remember from our three previous trips that I shot lots of slides with birds and mammals.

But maybe just enjoying to look at what’s there to see beats being busy fumbling with shutter speeds and ISO and provide a more natural experience. Never tried that hence this question.



Jun 28, 2018 at 05:14 PM
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I can't speak for anyone but myself here. When I travel, photography is a big part of why I choose my destination. I have pissed off family and friends while pursuing images but I don't care. They can go ahead and we can meet at a pre determined place later. I sometimes leave very early and then have breakfast and start the day with them later. Only you can answer how important the images are to you. If you are happy with cell phone images, then I think you should go with what works for you. Most of all have fun and enjoy your trip


Jun 28, 2018 at 05:52 PM
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Like the other people commenting I can only speak for myself but I'd never even contemplate this. You'd probably come to regret not taking at least some real gear when travelling someplace that exotic. If you're averse to carrying a full kit just limit yourself to - say - the 16-35/4 IS and a good modern 70-300 (I've been using the Tamron on less important trips with great success, but I imagine the new Canon is going to be in the same ballpark optically). This is the bare minimum I'm ever taking when travelling anywhere. YMMV.


Jun 28, 2018 at 06:23 PM
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mgmonster wrote:
I can't speak for anyone but myself here. When I travel, photography is a big part of why I choose my destination. I have pissed off family and friends while pursuing images but I don't care. They can go ahead and we can meet at a pre determined place later. I sometimes leave very early and then have breakfast and start the day with them later. Only you can answer how important the images are to you. If you are happy with cell phone images, then I think you should go with what works for you. Most of all have
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I do exactly like you if traveling with others not interested in photography. Get out predawn for sunrise shots and go out in the evening for night street shots. The reason I spent so much money on gear is to bring back great images from fantastic places I travel to.



Jun 28, 2018 at 06:24 PM
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"What if I just leave all dSLR gear at home and only bring iPhone and binoculars. Anyone tried this? Was it fulfilling?"

I'm not as crazy and courageous as you are, so when I walked from Chamonix to Zermatt over too many mountain passes I shared an RX100 V with my daughter while my wife relied on her iPhone. That worked well, and we enjoyed a memorable (and, yes, "fulfillng") trip.

We walked in a small group of very fit people (one self-effacing fellow had summited Everest a few months before our trip, the others were avid cyclists or trail runners, etc.) They (perhaps "we") wanted and needed to move quickly, given that a day's hike might cover up to 14 miles and thousands of feet of ascent and descent, sometimes over rough ground and in poor conditions. Well, although I at least used to be fit, there wasn't much time for photography, anyway, even if I had been able to carry a heavier kit.

This year I'm going to take along an A7R III and just two small, lightweight lenses (one wide angle and an 85/4) on a similar trip and enjoy watching my daughter record our memories with the RX100 V. Although I'll be walking with just my (somewhat more accommodating) family this time, because we'll still have to cover a lot of ground I suppose that I'll have to consider an important point of the thoughtful essay linked below, which is to distinguish "memory" shots from creative efforts:

https://www.dearsusan.net/2018/04/23/715-monday-post-23-april-2018-finding-a-useful-spot-for-my-smartphone-in-my-photographic-workflow/

For my purposes, the little Sony and the iPhone acquitted themselve well for the "memory" shots. I suppose that I missed the few (creative!) images that might have displaced some of large prints on my walls, but we have the memories.







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Jun 28, 2018 at 07:37 PM
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Why not the camera and one lens. Live with the single focal length while doing the phone photo stuff as well?

A number have successfully used a single lens for excellent work through the years.
A good friend used one lens and with it got 13 Audubon covers, many photo spreads in it, a 54 page photo essay among them, a few large coffee table books as well as being published/paid for magazines and books across the globe. He was also a successful workshop teacher. One camera, one lens - and damn good with it.



Jun 28, 2018 at 09:02 PM
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If you want to take "selfies" why bring any thing else.


Jun 28, 2018 at 09:06 PM
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I’ve done a bunch of trips with minimal gear. I’ve also done a bunch of trips with all the gear I could carry. Just depends on the purpose of the trip.

One option would be to bring a decent point & shoot camera like a G1X or G1X Mark II. Definitely doesn’t weigh you down. I’ve used mine on several trips when the primary goal had nothing to do with photography, but I felt like the iPhone alone wasn’t adequate. It fits in a small bag with an extra battery and charger.



Jun 28, 2018 at 09:13 PM
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I wouldn't but then I tossed my iPhone last year and find I enjoy life a notch more and get a lot more work done. However, I'm happy on a family vacation with a single small body and normal zoom, e.g., EOS 77D or SL1 and 18-55 STM: easy on the shoulder but capable of serious images if I get bored or see an opportunity.


Jun 28, 2018 at 09:18 PM
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rabbitmountain wrote:
Sorry folks I just had to make this a separate topic

OK so some of you know we’re going on a trip to Western Australia. Despite being a photography enthusiast and despite having always brought lots of gear on our many travels, I just had a crazy and most courageous thought.

What if I just leave all dSLR gear at home and only bring iPhone and binoculars. Anyone tried this? Was it fulfilling?


No, that sounds like a nightmare. Stick to your guns. I don't see why you have to carry everything all the time. I travel with enough gear for two people but carry what is reasonable day by day. It seems that by 60 many people are slowing down and downsizing gear.

I turn off phones for the duration and only use then for the wifi in hotels or at airports.

EBH





Jun 28, 2018 at 10:25 PM
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What about a Rebel+55-250? And any oher lenses you might want. 100-400 ff equivalent, more or less.

18-55 + 10-18 are very lightweight.



Jun 28, 2018 at 10:25 PM
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To each his own. I cannot imagine doing that; why have great equipment if you leave it home for a once-in-a-lifetime trip?


Jun 28, 2018 at 10:46 PM
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Funny, I'm debating the same thing... but I'm looking at an upcoming trip to the Atlantis resort in the Bahamas (not my choice, but work-related). Anyway, glancing at photos from the resort it looks like the only interesting pics would be water-related so I've been looking at a gopro or simply getting a waterproof case for my iphone.

Normally, I love taking shots on trips but I'm having a tough time envisioning what I'll be taking shots of in such an artificial place.

For Western Australia, I would definitely bring my dslr. If you are worried about weight, simplify down to one or two lenses and pick one per day (eliminates weight and your family doesn't need to wait for you to change lenses). My family always complains about the time I take for shots, but then are thrilled to see the shots afterward and agree it was worth taking them ... and then they complain again the next trip until we get back and see the results again... over and over.

Along these lines, I'm tempted to bring my 6D with either a 50 1.8 or my 17-40 (probably the 17-40) So unless you are focused on wildlife, I'd go wider to capture more context. No sense blurring out the background completely with 1.2/1.4 apertures since you probably want your photos to show where you were. Maybe tell your family its an experiment and bring one lens and when you take shots, take them with both your DSLR and your iphone. When you return home, show them your photos and ask them to select their 'top 10' - see how many are iphone v. dslr. That may make the decision easier for you for future travel.



Jun 28, 2018 at 10:46 PM
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The large sensor compacts (1" or larger sensor) save my day here. I choose one that is "pocketable enough" and it doesn't require any more fiddling than using the phone for taking snaps. But even the snaps have so much more potential when back home.

In discussions about compacts vs. small systems, especially the Canon G1X III vs a small EOS M system, my argument is exactly that I DON'T want a system, it makes everything more complicated than just grabbing the camera. So I am willing to pay a premium for a camera that is less flexible, because in reality it gets used more often.

There are plenty of options for 1" sensor compacts now, I would look at a Canon G9X typically for maximum pocketability, or any RX100 for lens quality and best all round performance. I have used a Canon G7X for a while now and it is good for everything except landscapes where the lens sharpness suffers a bit in the edges / corners. Just ordered a G1X III at 14% discount this weekend, let's see how that works out with the APS-C sensor and better lens. The new RX100 VI with the longer lens also looks might tempting and mighty expensive.



Jun 29, 2018 at 03:01 AM
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AmbientMike wrote:
What about a Rebel+55-250? And any oher lenses you might want. 100-400 ff equivalent, more or less.

18-55 + 10-18 are very lightweight.


even smaller and lighter !

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Jun 29, 2018 at 05:26 AM
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The desire to make pictures of the natural world is very old and in many of us. Look at that rock art. You'd be unwise to try to deny it if you have it.

I'm not in your carrying situation (I routinely carry 1Ds Mk III + 2 lenses on a 22km walk) but when I do need a "lightweight" kit, for example if I'm expecting extreme weather and need to be able to move quickly for safety reasons, that's the 1Ds Mk III + 24–70mm f/4 IS. In fact the lens was bought for that purpose after I retired my 5D: before that I'd been using the 5D and a very lightweight Olympus lens on an adapter, and I didn't want to carry that adapted lens forward to the new body with its larger mirror.

After I got the 24–70 I discovered just how flexible that lens is for landscape. It seems it was made for hikng, complete with the macro mode.

Setting ISO and shutter speed shouldn't be time consuming. Keep the ISO set to 100 (sunny) or 400 (for deep shade) and set the custom function so that ISO changes in 1 stop increments instead of the default ⅓ stop, to make bouncing between those two speeds easier. You will do this bouncing as you walk along, when the light changes, not when a shot comes into view. Put the camera in Av mode and centre-weighted, and set the aperture to f/8 or f/11 depending on your style. The lens has IS so even if you screw up it's a flick of a switch to turn it on. Wear the camera+lens on a strap over your shoulder with no case—it's weather sealed. I routinely shoot like this without even taking my backpack off.

I've been sceptical all along about how worthwhile for you that heavy 100–400 would be. I suggest you go back through the slides you have of wildlife from your previous trips here and look at them with a critical eye. Is it just a tiny parrot, too small in the middle of the frame? It's one thing to get a "record" shot of some creature you saw, but quite another to get it in good light, doing something interesting. I reached the point some time ago where, if it's just a record shot, I'd rather savour the moment watching the thing through good binoculars than take a picture.

Personally, I don't regard keeping different hours from your travelling companions and shooting at dawn and dusk as any kind of a solution, but then I've always detested dawn and dusk lanscape photos. Also, it's winter and dusk is either late afternoon down south or dinner time up north.

If you plan lunch so it's somewhere scenic the photographers in the party can be off doing that without holding the others up. Also, you're more likely to see wildlife if you stop and sit down than when you're moving. The noise a party makes when it moved tends to scare the wildlife away. So a nice long meal break/picnic can provide a good experience for both the photographers and the people just watching.

I also own a Sony RX10 with its 1″ sensor and have never even considered it for that rôle. It ruined enough shots on photowalks around town with its lousy dynamic range and mediocre lens. Let me add that in the beginning it was easy to persuade myself that I'd just been unlucky with the conditions on the day, but after a while I concluded there really were approximately no days it could handle to my satisfaction. You have only a few weeks. I think you're right to restrict yourself to cameras and lenses you already own.



Jun 29, 2018 at 05:27 AM
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