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Excellent photo. Great detail and color in the shadows.


Mar 11, 2018 at 11:49 AM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Palouse Glory


Wonderful. Composition, color, depth, and detail.


Mar 11, 2018 at 01:55 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Palouse Glory


Great shot, Mark. Classic Palouse shot with a wonderful sky.


Mar 13, 2018 at 05:13 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Palouse Glory


Red sails in the sunset type image. Awesome again.


Mar 15, 2018 at 12:11 AM
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Thanks, Mark. The unusual lighting gives it a mysterious glow.
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Mar 15, 2018 at 09:22 PM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Palouse Glory


juststeve wrote:
I have long thought a dawn photo at the falls could be special. In 20 some times there I have never had it happen. In fact, I have only had one sunset trip work out. This is special.

I have now seen your references to 32-bit smart RAW processing. I do not understand. I regularly process a given RAW file to both a highlight and shadow bias to recombine them in PS with a wee bit of luminosity masking or blend-if twiddling. But I do not see the reference to 32 bit file. Could you explain more?



Thank you so very much Steve. Yes, this was a very special morning! I doubt I'll see a better one even though I go here a few times every year.

I have a new and cutting-edge Video Tutorial coming out on the subject (PHOTOSHOP RAW SMART OBJECTS BASICS FOR NATURE PHOTOGRAPHERS) in the next week or two if you want to check out my website under "12 Video Tutorials" or send me a message with your email address and I can put you on the email announcement list...

But basically (after optimizing your image in Lightroom or Camera Raw) if you import your photos into Photoshop as you already do, but you choose to import them as Raw "Smart Objects" instead, you can still do the masking and various Layer work you do, but the image is not a 16 bit Tiff/PSD, nor 8 bit nor a Jpeg... it will still be a 32 bit RAW image! That means lossless 32 bit. This basically means people can go much further down their post-processing chain of workflow much further (including the power of critical Photoshop) but still remain in Raw (a lossless - non-degrading space). Pushing lossless workflow, or development of your image further in 32 bit allows the final image to have more quality and integrity (tonally and color) once you finish the image. We are seeing a real-world difference in quality in the fine art printing scene. As an example, Robert B Park of Nevada Art Printers (the most amazing and knowledgeable print guru of gurus I am aware of in the world today) and I do a 2-Day "MASTERING FINE ART PRINTING - from Capture to Print" workshops (at Nevada Art Printers in Las Vegas) a year and in them, we have been starting to introduce people to 32-bit adjusting in PS vie Raw Smart Objects. The real world difference we see in the prints (especially quality fine art prints) is noticeable and awesome. Some may get stuck in their respective workflows and good is good enough for some. I realize that. But the future and quality and power move on. So, I am basically sounding the alarm that this is the future in post-processing. I have been expanding my Raw Smart Object workflow for a while now and am amazed at the real world results.



Mar 16, 2018 at 11:45 AM
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juststeve wrote:
I have long thought a dawn photo at the falls could be special. In 20 some times there I have never had it happen. In fact, I have only had one sunset trip work out. This is special.

I have now seen your references to 32-bit smart RAW processing. I do not understand. I regularly process a given RAW file to both a highlight and shadow bias to recombine them in PS with a wee bit of luminosity masking or blend-if twiddling. But I do not see the reference to 32 bit file. Could you explain more?


Here is a free short explanation on Youtube: "PHOTOSHOP SMART OBJECTS"



Mar 16, 2018 at 02:00 PM
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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · Palouse Glory


I watched the video a few minutes ago. I am having trouble wrapping my head around the idea the RAW files are 32 bit. I will have to experiment some to prove it to myself. I always figured they were 16 bit files.

I have exported the RAW files to PS as smart objects before but have not done as extensive work with them as it appears you are doing by returning to the Lightroom RAW file tools. This definitely is worth exploring further.

My technique has been to export two different files, one processed with a shadow bias and the other with a highlight bias, then doing masking and blending more like what I would do if I had been working on exported PSD files. I might go back to Lightroom to massage the files a bit, but not to make a great effort at refining the image there. I have been more comfortable doing the refining in PS. So this is most interesting.

I long limited my use of smart objects previously because they tended to be a resource hog and my Photoshop computer was a 6 1/2-year-old laptop with 16 gigs of RAM. Smart objects tended to slow things down. Now, with a much more powerful computer, I am using smart objects more. So I am most happy to experiment with this new technique to see if it can make for nuanced photographs.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.



Mar 18, 2018 at 12:45 PM
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juststeve wrote:
I watched the video a few minutes ago. I am having trouble wrapping my head around the idea the RAW files are 32 bit. I will have to experiment some to prove it to myself. I always figured they were 16 bit files.

I have exported the RAW files to PS as smart objects before but have not done as extensive work with them as it appears you are doing by returning to the Lightroom RAW file tools. This definitely is worth exploring further.

My technique has been to export two different files, one processed with a shadow bias and the
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Thank you for the feedback. And feel free to email me at [email protected]. I am currently on a road trip right now so I cannot answer in full. But the Camera Raw engine in Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw is floating 32-bit. 16 bits does not happen until rasterization. Which can now be much further down the post-processing workflow chain using the Raw Smart Objects...






Mar 26, 2018 at 07:32 AM
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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Palouse Glory


You put all the "pooh poohing" of the 5DMK2 to shame here Mark! Just sensational photography, as usual!
Dan



Mar 26, 2018 at 08:26 AM
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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Palouse Glory


Awesome, Mark. Beautifully framed.


Mar 26, 2018 at 11:25 AM
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Danpbphoto wrote:
You put all the "pooh poohing" of the 5DMK2 to shame here Mark! Just sensational photography, as usual!
Dan



Thank you very much Dan! The Canon 5D Mark 2 was a groundbreaking camera! I loved that thing so much. I used it until the Sony a 7R came out and because I wanted to stay with Cannon glass that’s why I went to Sony. But the 5D Mark 2 served me very well for many years. True the shadows were not as good, and the dynamic range... but we just blended a lot more back then to get the quality. All the best to you! Thank you for taking time to comment!



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