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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Blind suggestions ?


Local wildlife area just opened up a new trail, and I was wondering what type of Blind you might suggest. I'm not even sure at this point If its possible to use one yet, but I'm looking ahead to see what possibilities exist.
Biggest lens I have is a Canon 100-400v2 along with my 1DMKIV, so I thought this might be a viable option to get a little closer.



Jan 02, 2018 at 10:29 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Blind suggestions ?


Just Google “hunting blinds”.


Jan 02, 2018 at 12:43 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Blind suggestions ?


Ameristep Chairblind is small and as convenient as it gets but restrictive. I like mine. Tony is right, lots of options if you want to go bigger.


Jan 02, 2018 at 02:47 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Blind suggestions ?


I use an Ameristep Outhouse Blind. You can almost stand up in it, and there's room for a chair and a tripod. Not much else though... ~ Ron

http://www.ameristep.com/blinds/outhouse-blind.html



Jan 02, 2018 at 07:12 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Blind suggestions ?


You can make your own blind/hide with camo netting. It's light to carry, fairly inexpensive and versatile.
I got mine in different colors from here https://www.banggood.com/search/camo-net.html




Jan 03, 2018 at 06:32 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Blind suggestions ?


I bought some netting at WalMart, haven't tried it yet. May be at your local store, or order on-line.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Allen-Camo-Netting-For-Blind-Making/45612272



Jan 03, 2018 at 07:34 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Blind suggestions ?


Visit local hunting stores now and you might find some on closeout. But they may not reduce them too much as turkey season is really not that far off. You never know though.


Jan 03, 2018 at 10:00 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Blind suggestions ?


Depending where and how you set up your blind, you do not need a collapsible blind or camo material. Just an old dark or dull-colored piece of material will work. Anything in front of, or draped over you, that conceals you usually works. Camo does not really fool many birds as they see movement first and can easily see your lens poking out of your blind.


Jan 03, 2018 at 10:28 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Blind suggestions ?


Hunting blinds are designed for hunters and are poor solutions for photography. A blind that was designed for use by photographers (and accommodates a tripod's legs) is the Tragopan photo blind, though it is for a single photographer.

The Ameristep chair blinds are another option but they require the user to be in full camo gear including a face mask and dark gloves.

Many blinds made for hunters also use Velcro to secure panels and that means a fair amount of noise when peeling the Velcro away.

Everyone knows that getting down to the level of your subjects produces stronger pictures but this is a need for photographers and not for hunters that are going to blast something as it flies overhead. Lots of do it yourself options to cobble something together using camo netting along with a "turkey chair" that allows you to sit a few inches above the ground while providing back support.

In general there are far more options for camouflage solutions including hides/blinds from sources in the UK and Europe.

http://www.wildlifewatchingsupplies.co.uk/

And for a great floating hide designs:

https://www.floating-hide.com/en/
https://mrjangear.com/shop/floating-hide-combo/




Oct 28, 2018 at 04:28 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Blind suggestions ?


I use a small, one-man blind by Altan, and it is great for back yard photography.

https://altansafeoutdoors.com/

However, whenever I visualize using it in a place where there is likely to be other people, I sense that it might not be the best idea, as people may think that you're hunting.



Oct 28, 2018 at 08:14 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Blind suggestions ?


Is it the My Chair Blind one ? It looks pretty good, although I do wish it had a floor, especially with all the ticks we have in our area. But it does have a cup holder !


Oct 29, 2018 at 08:44 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Blind suggestions ?


^^^ Who are you directing your question to?


Oct 29, 2018 at 08:45 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Blind suggestions ?


Sorry It was you Colin. I looked and there are 2 different blinds, so I wasn't sure which one you were referring to.


Oct 29, 2018 at 11:17 AM
Colin F
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Blind suggestions ?


There are several; mine appears to be the Quick Post blind (on page 2), bit it seems that they've re-designed them a bit. Mine is 2-3 years old. This smaller one is all you need for one person.

https://altansafeoutdoors.com/product-category/ground-blinds/page/2/



Oct 29, 2018 at 11:28 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Blind suggestions ?


Imagemaster wrote:
Depending where and how you set up your blind, you do not need a collapsible blind or camo material. Just an old dark or dull-colored piece of material will work. Anything in front of, or draped over you, that conceals you usually works. Camo does not really fool many birds as they see movement first and can easily see your lens poking out of your blind.


I agree with imagemaster. I have had negative experiences using one person camo blinds. It's like the animals see this bizarre thing in their environment and think, "What the hell is this? No way I'm getting near that thing." Animals that aren't very perceptive don't survive well. One fall I was photographing flying snow geese at the edge of a wildlife refuge, a few hundred feet from a hunt club. There were lots of photographers by me standing in the open with long lenses on heavy tripods and lots of hunters standing nearby in a ditch. The photographers wore mostly darker clothes, like jeans and a dark t-shirt. The hunters all wore camo. The geese flew unperturbed and low over the photographers without changing course, but as soon as they saw the hunters, they immediately changed their flight path. The geese ignored the movements of the photographers and the swinging long lenses and tripods, but reacted to the sight of shotguns and camo before the shooting began. Maybe the lead geese had survived prior negative encounters.

For me, this reinforced that the main thing is slow, non-aggressive movements that are tangential to the target, with plenty of pauses. It also helps to face away from the target animal and to keep your face behind your camera. Some animals get nervous if you stare at them and are less cautious if you appear to ignore them. If possible, I use my car as a blind and use a piece of white sheer material over the window I am shooting through. It's hard to see a face through the brighter side of the white material, especially if you put something dark behind you.



Oct 29, 2018 at 03:22 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Blind suggestions ?


^^^ There may be some truth in all that, but for back yard bird photography, a blind makes a massive difference. I find that whenever I use the blind, many birds come in super close and perch, which would certainly not otherwise if they saw my just sitting/standing there - still or not. Varied Thrush and Northern Flickers are especially timid. I often hear some small birds perching directly on the blind!


Oct 29, 2018 at 03:29 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Blind suggestions ?


Another photographer's analogy that stuck with me:

You're introducing something strange into their home.

Setting up a blind in a park is like somebody walking into your living room and turning over the couch.

Would you notice that?



Oct 29, 2018 at 06:45 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Blind suggestions ?


This would be mostly for birds in flight. The area in question juts out quite a bit into the marsh, its also great for Bobolinks as well. When ever a bird flies anywhere near me they mostly go off another direction. However If Im in shade under trees they don't change course at all.
This has all been standing. I'm wondering If I get a low chair, and restrict my movements it might just do the trick.
Very interesting info though. I also don't usually use a shade, although it does make the lens a bit longer, the glass not shining back at the bird, may make a difference as well.



Oct 29, 2018 at 06:48 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Blind suggestions ?


Colin,

Do you leave the blind up or do you take it down?

I leave mine up in my backyard and, over time, the birds accept it as part of the landscape. My experience has been that local parks don't allow blinds to be constructed and left. Is it different where you're from?

The ability for the blind to remain in the environment for some period of time to allow the potential subjects to acclimate to it is essential as far as I can tell.



Oct 29, 2018 at 06:55 PM
Colin F
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Blind suggestions ?


jeffdjohnston wrote:
Colin,

Do you leave the blind up or do you take it down?


I only use it once in a while (in the back yard) so I always remove it when done.


I leave mine up in my backyard, and over time, the birds accept it as part of the landscape. The ability for the blind to remain in the environment for some period of time to allow the potential subjects to acclimate to it is essential as far as I can tell.

Yes, that is the best method for sure, but certainly not essential. I find that when I suddenly introduce the blind, it works, and the birds come in. I use bird seed of course to give them a reason to show.


My experience has been that local parks don't allow blinds to be constructed and left. Is it different where you're from?

I'm not sure. Like I said earlier, I only use it in my back yard.




Oct 29, 2018 at 07:32 PM
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