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transientgolf
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I am in the process of building a Fuji 50s / GFX kit. I am generally sticking with the native lenses but would like one longer lens (which obviously has to be adapted right now). Ideally I would like something in the 300--400 range. I would love any perspectives on what works best here overall. Anyone thoughts?

Thanks!




Aug 19, 2017 at 07:27 PM
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transientgolf wrote:
I am in the process of building a Fuji 50s / GFX kit. I am generally sticking with the native lenses but would like one longer lens (which obviously has to be adapted right now). Ideally I would like something in the 300--400 range. I would love any perspectives on what works best here overall. Anyone thoughts?

Thanks!



I think the best is the Hasselblad CFE 350 f/5.6 Super Acromat, but it is very expensive. You might looks at the at the Pentax 645 A* 300 f/4 ED and the Pentax 67 M* 400 f/4 ED as more affordable and still very good alternatives.



Aug 19, 2017 at 11:09 PM
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Thanks. I was looking at the Pentax and curious if there are any other good alternatives out there. Sounds like that is the way to go. Appreciate the response.


Aug 22, 2017 at 08:18 AM
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In 300mm there is Mamiya 645 300/2.8 APO. You can also look at Contax 645 350mm/4 too.
Here is the review for Mamiya http://brianhirschfeldphotography.com/2012/08/21/mamiya-300mm-f2-8-apo-lens-review-with-sample-images-and-comparisons/




Aug 22, 2017 at 08:49 AM
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Fuji is apparently releasing a 180/3.5 for the system, if you need autofocus. And who knows, that's already farther out than I expected them to push for such a small system, at least so soon, so maybe they'll go even longer one day.


Aug 22, 2017 at 11:04 AM
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If adapting lens, I think there is no dog in Nikon long glass. You want G instead of E type though. I am not exact sure about coverage as I never pay attention to long glass, but seems general speaking: tele lenses usually have better coverage than wide.

And since you are not seek AF, there were also AIS nikon to choose.



Aug 22, 2017 at 11:25 AM
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Disagree about getting Nikon G glass. Like someone was suggesting in the other thread, sure you *can* carry around a Nikon body to preset the aperture on, but I could not be less enthusiastic about that if I tried. Nikon Ai-S is the better suggestion.

However, Nikon D might be an even better idea. There are D versions of the 300/2.8 and 400/2.8 which are newer optical designs than the Ai-S versions but they still have aperture rings. They also have AF-S which of course you won't utilize but I don't think that really matters. Sadly there is no D version of the 200/2.

Of course we don't know for sure that these lenses will cover "miniMF," but at such long focal lengths one can hope.



Aug 23, 2017 at 12:38 AM
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Lee Saxon wrote:
Disagree about getting Nikon G glass. Like someone was suggesting in the other thread, sure you *can* carry around a Nikon body to preset the aperture on, but I could not be less enthusiastic about that if I tried. Nikon Ai-S is the better suggestion.

However, Nikon D might be an even better idea. There are D versions of the 300/2.8 and 400/2.8 which are newer optical designs than the Ai-S versions but they still have aperture rings. They also have AF-S which of course you won't utilize but I don't think that really matters. Sadly there is no D
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You can control the aperture of G, D, and of course Ai-S lenses when adapted to the GFX. It is only the newest E lenses for which there is not yet an adapter that control the aperture. With the G lenses you don't get marked aperture stops, but you can control the aperture.



Aug 23, 2017 at 01:05 AM
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Many 300-400mm lenses designed for th 35mm format will cover the 44x33 mm sensor well, with acceptable corner sharpness and low vignetting.

The main issue is various aberrations like CA that tend to increase exponential-like in the extended image circle. That is what you pay for with MF glass, aberrations are kept under control in the whole image circle.

Still, there are many options that may produce satisfactory results.

A small and nice option is the SMC Pentax F* 300mm f/4.5, and I have tested it successfully for coverage with a shift adapter.



Aug 23, 2017 at 03:12 AM
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I'll do a quick back to back with the Mamiya 300mm options tonight if you want what focal distance are you interested in infinity or about 5-20meters?

<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/china-experience/albums/72157685445628860" title="Mamiya 300mm f5.6 vs Mamiya 300mm f2.8 on Fuji GFX"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4413/35960709213_edca293890_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="Mamiya 300mm f5.6 vs Mamiya 300mm f2.8 on Fuji GFX"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


link another way:
https://flic.kr/s/aHsm3frNtw

Looks like there is no strong CA in either lens, the sharpness falloff is not dramatic at the edges. The F2.8 version seems to always have a bit more acuity.

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Aug 23, 2017 at 04:52 AM
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Lee Saxon wrote:
Disagree about getting Nikon G glass. Like someone was suggesting in the other thread, sure you *can* carry around a Nikon body to preset the aperture on, but I could not be less enthusiastic about that if I tried. Nikon Ai-S is the better suggestion.

However, Nikon D might be an even better idea. There are D versions of the 300/2.8 and 400/2.8 which are newer optical designs than the Ai-S versions but they still have aperture rings. They also have AF-S which of course you won't utilize but I don't think that really matters. Sadly there is no D
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I tried Nikon 300/4e PF and 500/4e FL. The lens will cover GFX sensor with some vignette in the corner, typical of any Nikon lenses adapted to GFX. Center sharpness is not an issue and is I think as good as using it on any FF dslr. However, with 500/4e FL@f4, you will need to crop down to about 40mp, keeping 4:3 ratio to get rid off most vignette. I would say that to maximize benefit of GFX, for tele, going with MF lens would be preferable. Unfortunately, I don't have anything longer than 150/3.2 HC at the moment. 300/4e PF is really good for its price and well worth it for the weight alone. Small amount of vignette in the corner is the price but at the same time, sharpness is not in the same league as Fuji 110/2, 120/4 or Hasselblad 150/3.2 HC for sure.




Aug 23, 2017 at 06:12 AM
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suteetat wrote:
I tried Nikon 300/4e PF and 500/4e FL. The lens will cover GFX sensor with some vignette in the corner, typical of any Nikon lenses adapted to GFX.



Can you please clarify this - does the 300mm f4 PF cover the GFX sensor, or does it vignette?

If there is vignetting, that means it does not cover the sensor.



May 12, 2023 at 10:17 AM
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uxvvpxJ9QVFFyh0pW2rs9KBmUW9vlh-d-VnbcLDCTn8/edit#gid=0



May 12, 2023 at 11:16 AM
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The native Fuji GF 20-35 vignettes as much as 4 stops in the corners with lens correction disabled. You should write to Fuji and advise them that their lens doesn't cover their sensor.

I assume you're meaning a hard vignette, but that is clearly not the spirit in which it is being described with these lenses. It would be a soft vignette.

molson wrote:
Can you please clarify this - does the 300mm f4 PF cover the GFX sensor, or does it vignette?

If there is vignetting, that means it does not cover the sensor.




May 13, 2023 at 09:27 PM
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The native GFX 250 and TC will do what you want it to do. IQ is excellent, especially one stop down.

Gordon



May 14, 2023 at 01:25 AM
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My answer to the five-year old question is the Canon 300/2.8L and 500/4.5L in either FD or EF mounts (same optics). No coverage issues and they're incredible bargains on the used market. If you're interested in use with extenders, I'd go with the EF versions. Canon's FD 1.4x is decent, not great. Their EF vII and III are superior. The FD 600/4.5 also has no coverage issues, it's relatively light for a manual 600, and, beyond really needing its hood and some minor CA issues, has solid IQ. It forgoes a focus ring in favor of wheels at the base of the tripod foot and that takes some getting used to.

Every Nikon super-tele I've used, including the PF 300 and 500, have some mechanical (hard) vignetting in the extreme corners on the 50sII with a Steelsring adapter. I believe it's a limitation of the narrow F-mount. It doesn't stop me from using my 500/4P because a 7:5 crop, my favored aspect ratio, clears it up and coverage is otherwise uniform across the frame, as it is with the PFs. Plus, I most often shoot it on the GFX with my Kenko 1.4x attached, and that takes care of the problem entirely. So, no, they don't completely cover, but it's easy to work around if you're interested in the little wonders.



May 14, 2023 at 01:58 AM
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"The native Fuji GF 20-35 vignettes as much as 4 stops in the corners with lens correction disabled. You should write to Fuji and advise them that their lens doesn't cover their sensor."

No s**t

It seems manufacturers these days are getting more and more lazy and relying way too much on digital correction! It's a disgrace! Digital correction comes at a huge price! Distortion correction results in a huge loss of resolution in the corners and vignette correction adds noise in the corners. 4 stops implies that ISO 100 is ISO 1600 in the corners!

In fact most new super wide angle lenses these days are basically fisheye lenses - such terrible distortion!

Sad!





May 16, 2023 at 07:32 PM
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Wolfgang1756 wrote:
"The native Fuji GF 20-35 vignettes as much as 4 stops in the corners with lens correction disabled. You should write to Fuji and advise them that their lens doesn't cover their sensor."

No s**t

It seems manufacturers these days are getting more and more lazy and relying way too much on digital correction! It's a disgrace! Digital correction comes at a huge price! Distortion correction results in a huge loss of resolution in the corners and vignette correction adds noise in the corners. 4 stops implies that ISO 100 is ISO 1600 in the corners!

In fact most new super wide
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This is part of why I kept the 23/4 and didn't 'upgrade' to the 20-35. Even without corrections enabled the 23 has only moderate distortion and low vignetting.



May 24, 2023 at 05:29 PM
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This lens is stellar, with and without the 1.4x TC. Really one of the main reasons to own a GFX system. Very sharp with great color and a highly dimensional and great out of focus render I deem very classically medium formatesque. It also renders and functions really well with Fujiís MCEX extension tubes, giving greater magnification and options for razor thin focal plane with a practically long working distance range. Lots of applications for this tele. Heavy and bulky beast though.

flash wrote:
The native GFX 250 and TC will do what you want it to do. IQ is excellent, especially one stop down.

Gordon




May 26, 2023 at 01:13 PM
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I own the 250mm F/4 G lens and it is stellar. I've looked at the longer Pentax glass and am considering the 400.

Currently, I own two other Pentax lenses. I use via a KIPON shift adapter and use the 35mm and the wonderful 120 Macro.

I think the Pentax 645 lenses pair very well with the GFX cameras.

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