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p.26 #1 · p.26 #1 · Sony FE 100-400/4.5-5.6 GM vs Contax 100-300/4.5-5.6


PEKA62 wrote:
I finally have a perfect copy of a like new lens. It was not easy though, and took some time:
I bought one in Japan 2 months ago that was advertised as 'near mint' and 'just cla'd'. When it arrived it was a pure disaster. Lot of dirt inside, lot of fungus on the central lens element, but it had a perfectly clear rear element, no haze, like new.
My local camera repair lab could not clean the lens, it was not possible to completely disassemble it and access the central lens element...
I found another copy, that was advertised as 'defective', 'just
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I am afraid to ask how much it cost to purchase 2 lenses and the labor cost to cannibalize both lenses to prepare one like new perfectly centered sharp copy.

Rich



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Jul 16, 2021 at 04:25 PM
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p.26 #2 · p.26 #2 · Sony FE 100-400/4.5-5.6 GM vs Contax 100-300/4.5-5.6


Congrats!! Itís worth it IMO.

PEKA62 wrote:
I finally have a perfect copy of a like new lens. It was not easy though, and took some time:
I bought one in Japan 2 months ago that was advertised as 'near mint' and 'just cla'd'. When it arrived it was a pure disaster. Lot of dirt inside, lot of fungus on the central lens element, but it had a perfectly clear rear element, no haze, like new.
My local camera repair lab could not clean the lens, it was not possible to completely disassemble it and access the central lens element...
I found another copy, that was advertised as 'defective', 'just
...Show more



Jul 16, 2021 at 04:43 PM
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naturephoto1 wrote:
I am afraid to ask how much it cost to purchase 2 lenses and to then the labor cost to cannibalize both lenses to prepare one like new perfectly centered sharp copy.

Rich



Don't tell my wife, I paid around 900.- EUR all together. The second lens was not that expensive..
Of course it's a good question if it's worth it.
I'm looking at it more from a collector's point of view than from a professional photographer's (which I'm not).

I believe I could sell this lens for the price I payed, if I wanted.
But I just don't care...



Jul 16, 2021 at 05:36 PM
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PEKA62 wrote:
Don't tell my wife, I paid around 900.- EUR all together. The second lens was not that expensive..
Of course it's a good question if it's worth it.
I'm looking at it more from a collector's point of view than from a professional photographer's (which I'm not).

I believe I could sell this lens for the price I payed, if I wanted.
But I just don't care...


Good show! The classic sports car of zoom lenses! Congrats! 😊😊



Jul 16, 2021 at 07:20 PM
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C/Y 100-300



Aug 31, 2021 at 07:59 AM
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A couple from this past week rolling around down in the blue ridge mountains, A7iii+100-300






Nov 07, 2021 at 02:01 PM
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Clever Juniper Titmouse.






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Sony ILCE-1 + FE 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 GM OSS @ 400.0 mm.

K-H.



Nov 07, 2021 at 08:29 PM
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p.26 #8 · p.26 #8 · Sony FE 100-400/4.5-5.6 GM vs Contax 100-300/4.5-5.6


I still love the VS 100-300 but the 135mm f/4 Tele-Elmar (latest version) does slightly better at 135mm. I was surprised to see this as the Contax is capable of amazing performance at this focus length.


Mar 07, 2022 at 03:28 AM
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I am interested in Tele-Elmar. When you say last version, do you mean Tele-Elmar-M, 11861? I have tried several of the old ones, in shops, but either they show some kind of coating damage or wobbly focusing ring. I was thinking of giving the 11861 a try, but it is significantly more expensive...

Fred Miranda wrote:
I still love the VS 100-300 but the 135mm f/4 Tele-Elmar (latest version) does slightly better at 135mm. I was surprised to see this as the Contax is capable of amazing performance at this focus length.





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hanay78 wrote:
I am interested in Tele-Elmar. When you say last version, do you mean Tele-Elmar-M, 11861? I have tried several of the old ones, in shops, but either they show some kind of coating damage or wobbly focusing ring. I was thinking of giving the 11861 a try, but it is significantly more expensive...



I have the 135/4 Tele-Elmar 11861, so the one with the built-in hood. Having owned both, I prefer this version to the latest 'apo' for its longer focus throw and more pleasant rendering to my eyes. They are very close in sharpness and physically, the 135/4 is slightly longer than the 135/3.4 APO.

I have owned the Leica 135/4 Tele-Elmar (11851) and it's also a great lens. I compared it to the 135/2.8 Batis here:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1675914



Mar 07, 2022 at 04:25 PM
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Have the 11861 and the 11851 some difference in the optics? some update in the coatings?

Fred Miranda wrote:
I have the 135/4 Tele-Elmar 11861, so the one with the built-in hood. Having owned both, I prefer this version to the latest 'apo' for its longer focus throw and more pleasant rendering to my eyes. They are very close in sharpness and physically, the 135/4 is slightly longer than the 135/3.4 APO.

I have owned the Leica 135/4 Tele-Elmar (11851) and it's also a great lens. I compared it to the 135/2.8 Batis here:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1675914





Mar 08, 2022 at 04:19 AM
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hanay78 wrote:
Have the 11861 and the 11851 some difference in the optics? some update in the coatings?



Basically there is version I (11851) and version II (11861). Both designed by Mandler with the same optical design. The latter is about 40 grams heavier but it has a built-in hood (It's more rare and expensive). This was one of the most successful telephoto lenses and had a run of 35 years before being replaced by the 135/3.4 APO which is still in production and only marginally better in terms of resolution and contrast. (Not in rendering in my option).

Honestly you can't go wrong with the version I and it's a bargain for the price. I regret selling mine but I'm even happier with version II just for the haptics.



Mar 08, 2022 at 10:28 AM
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Here is a great article on this:
https://casualphotophile.com/2020/10/12/leitz-tele-elmar-135mm-f-4-review/



Mar 08, 2022 at 11:07 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Here is a great article on this:
https://casualphotophile.com/2020/10/12/leitz-tele-elmar-135mm-f-4-review/


Thanks Fred. The TE 135/4 is a really great lens.

K-H.



Mar 09, 2022 at 03:00 AM
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Sorry for my late response. Is version 11861 multi coated? in case it is, does this make a significant difference?

Fred Miranda wrote:
Basically there is version I (11851) and version II (11861). Both designed by Mandler with the same optical design. The latter is about 40 grams heavier but it has a built-in hood (It's more rare and expensive). This was one of the most successful telephoto lenses and had a run of 35 years before being replaced by the 135/3.4 APO which is still in production and only marginally better in terms of resolution and contrast. (Not in rendering in my option).

Honestly you can't go wrong with the version I and it's a bargain for the price. I regret selling
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Mar 22, 2022 at 04:47 AM
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hanay78 wrote:
Sorry for my late response. Is version 11861 multi coated? in case it is, does this make a significant difference?



I'm not sure. However, usually newer versions means better coating.



Mar 22, 2022 at 11:36 AM
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p.26 #17 · p.26 #17 · Sony FE 100-400/4.5-5.6 GM vs Contax 100-300/4.5-5.6


Has anyone tried the Contax N 70-300? there are versions that have been converted to Canon EF mount floating around . . .


Mar 22, 2022 at 05:07 PM
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