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Frogfish wrote:
And a lot of this awareness comes from experience - which is always good to pass on via forums like this if it makes others think twice and act differently, more defensively. The more alert you seem the less attention you'll attract, the scamsters and thieves will look for easier targets and there are always plenty of them. I wouldn't call those people fools - just naive, too trusting or unworldly travellers.
The PacSafe bags are good because they protect against blades that can slice through virtually any bag - but I agree I don't like them aesthetically or in practical use. I use Mindshift Rotation (they have smaller bags too) and it's very very difficult for a thief to get at your camera gear in them due to the bag-in-a-bag construction - yet takes just a few seconds to unlock and rotate in front for use.
Planning to visit Turkey this year - so would love to hear of the taxi scams ? I'm sure they are not endemic to Turkey 
Finally I'd concur on traveling in Asia, I've been all over and only ever had an issue once (ironically where I live, in Shanghai, a pickpocket who I caught and handed over to police) but having lived in China & HK for over 20 years I'd say that's just the Law of Averages catching up with me 
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There are a few websites like this one that talk about them in great detail. TripAdvisor has a few long threads about taxi scams too.
https://www.theistanbulinsider.com/tips-to-prevent-popular-istanbul-taxi-scams/
This one also has a list of fares from popular destinations to use as a reference.
https://www.theistanbulinsider.com/istanbul-taxi-fares-every-tourist-ought-to-know/
We went from Taksim to Sultanahmet - which should have been a 13 TL fare ( just under $4 USD) - we wound up paying 190 TL. The cab we rode in had a meter in the lower console, we didn't check if it was reset to 3.45 to start, we didn't watch it closely as we were dopes that checked out the sights he kept pointing out (clever distraction) and when we handed him 100 TL, he did the bill swap and claimed we only gave him 20, so we handed him another 70 to cover the fare. In one ride we got the bill swap, an inflated fare, and likely he was boosting the fare when we weren't paying attention because we only went about 3km, at posted fare rates there's no way we could have racked up such a large fare. Our $4 ride cost $50 - its actually more than we paid to fly to Turkey.
Next time we will take a pic of the cab, the meter when the driver starts it, we will watch it carefully, and finally we will call out the bill amount before handing it over to the driver and ask them to confirm. We did pay attention to the route the driver took so we didn't get the phony long way fare, so the damage could have been worse.
Cheers
chris
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