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Visited relatives in Prescott for Thanksgiving, and spent a couple days beforehand in northern Arizona, benefitting from lots of advice from FM'ers (especially Greg Campbell).

I'm more of a wildlife than a landscape guy, but that may now change after this trip. First half of the day was cloudy with occasional openings, sunset was pretty good, and I ended up driving out in the dark when it started to rain.

I pushed these deliberately in post, trying to find/explore what I like, and would very much appreciate feedback/criticism/advice.

Greg







1) The pocket (I think) under clouds when the sun broke through







2) The swirl (I think) as clouds started to break up a bit







3) Wormhole about an hour before sunset







4) Swirl at sunset







5) Swirl at sunset II




Dec 06, 2016 at 10:35 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · White Pocket pre-Thanksgiving


What a magical place, and you did it justice! Wonderful series.


Dec 06, 2016 at 11:20 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · White Pocket pre-Thanksgiving


Some of the best I've seen from there, great job.


Dec 06, 2016 at 11:58 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · White Pocket pre-Thanksgiving


Hi Greg,

The sky looks great in all of these, but the ground layer feels flat in each of them. Are you using a layer mask to process the sky separate from the ground layer?

Jim



Dec 07, 2016 at 01:12 AM
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They don't look "pushed" at all to me. As a matter of fact, I think they look as natural as I've seen in quite a while for desert sandstone landscapes. I'd probably saturate the color a bit more personally, but as far as realistic, they are right on.

Nice job.



Dec 07, 2016 at 09:04 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · White Pocket pre-Thanksgiving


Nice set of the iconic place. Other than a bit over-sharpened on top swirl rocks, everything is in track!


Dec 07, 2016 at 10:06 AM
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ckcarr wrote:
They don't look "pushed" at all to me. As a matter of fact, I think they look as natural as I've seen in quite a while for desert sandstone landscapes. I'd probably saturate the color a bit more personally, but as far as realistic, they are right on.

Nice job.


I will agree with Craig here. While I would give a little more life to the ground layer as I suggested, I do agree that these are among the most natural looking I have seen in a while too, so kudo's for that.

Jim



Dec 07, 2016 at 10:56 AM
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Hi Greg, Although I won't be able to speak to the technical aspects of your images like others on this forum... I do know what I like, and I like these a lot.
#1 is really well seen and my favorite. I love the spotlight effect, and the nice balance of swirls between sky and rock. Beautiful.
#3 is my second favorite, very cool patterns and texture.
#4 is also an excellent composition, love the leading lines of the rock, and the clouds are perfect.
Really well done and a pleasure to view.

Kirk



Dec 09, 2016 at 12:26 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · White Pocket pre-Thanksgiving


I really like the first one! Good work on all of these.

Art



Dec 10, 2016 at 01:05 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · White Pocket pre-Thanksgiving


Great set, lovely light, #1 and #3 are my favorites.
Brian



Dec 10, 2016 at 01:14 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · White Pocket pre-Thanksgiving


I see nothing that would leave me with the impression that you pushed your shots.

In a nutshell you have produced a beautiful set here.



Dec 10, 2016 at 07:47 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · White Pocket pre-Thanksgiving


Thanks so much to all that replied; no matter how much time I spend looking and thinking about landscape images from other FM members, it's incredibly helpful to see how folks respond to one's own attempts. These were mostly from midday when it was pretty gray, and the default LR processing of the raw files was pretty dull (hence my earlier concern).


Fred Amico wrote:
What a magical place, and you did it justice! Wonderful series.


Thanks, Fred! (I'm still fiddling with some of the canyon images and will put those up later).
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stanparker wrote:
Some of the best I've seen from there, great job.


Thanks so much, Stan; very much appreciated.
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JimFox wrote:
Hi Greg,

The sky looks great in all of these, but the ground layer feels flat in each of them. Are you using a layer mask to process the sky separate from the ground layer?

Jim


Jim, you're spot on...I applied quite a bit of clarity/mid-tone contrast to all of these, and treated the sky and ground separately. In hindsight, I think I protected the extremes a bit too much in the ground.

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ckcarr wrote:
They don't look "pushed" at all to me. As a matter of fact, I think they look as natural as I've seen in quite a while for desert sandstone landscapes. I'd probably saturate the color a bit more personally, but as far as realistic, they are right on.

Nice job.


Thanks, Craig! I will give that a go (push the saturation/contrast in the ground a bit more).
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LSExplorer wrote:
Nice set of the iconic place. Other than a bit over-sharpened on top swirl rocks, everything is in track!


Yup...I see that also. (Thanks).
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JimFox wrote:
I will agree with Craig here. While I would give a little more life to the ground layer as I suggested, I do agree that these are among the most natural looking I have seen in a while too, so kudo's for that.

Jim


Now I'm worried! (Will post an update later to see if I can find the overcooking threshold).

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KirkB wrote:
Hi Greg, Although I won't be able to speak to the technical aspects of your images like others on this forum... I do know what I like, and I like these a lot.
#1 is really well seen and my favorite. I love the spotlight effect, and the nice balance of swirls between sky and rock. Beautiful.
#3 is my second favorite, very cool patterns and texture.
#4 is also an excellent composition, love the leading lines of the rock, and the clouds are perfect.
Really well done and a pleasure to view.

Kirk


Kirk, what a nice surprise to see another N&V refugee! (I really enjoy fiddling with landscape; it's a nice complement to those avian subjects that we both love so much).

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Older Fossil wrote:
I really like the first one! Good work on all of these.

Art


Thanks, Art!
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Brian Woolf wrote:
Great set, lovely light, #1 and #3 are my favorites.
Brian


Appreciate it, Brian!
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Jred wrote:
I see nothing that would leave me with the impression that you pushed your shots.

In a nutshell you have produced a beautiful set here.


Thanks, Jred!



Dec 11, 2016 at 05:50 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · White Pocket pre-Thanksgiving


Nice set of images. There all good but number 1 catches my eye.


Dec 12, 2016 at 01:26 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · White Pocket pre-Thanksgiving


All are beautiful, but number one is phenomenal. great job



Dec 12, 2016 at 05:16 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · White Pocket pre-Thanksgiving


Nice photos Greg, The last 2 are my favorites of the set!


Dec 14, 2016 at 11:41 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · White Pocket pre-Thanksgiving


It is very nice to see WP under a variety of lighting conditions (including crazy too). I'd say these are a little more "normal" in the conditions and yet they stand as well as any. That is one thing that I find so special about WP. It is almost always good to shoot! I also like the originality here. Great job!


Dec 15, 2016 at 06:56 PM





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