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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


So, I'm very happy with the AF speed of the A6000 and 70-200 f/4. What I'd like to find is a short tele around 85-200 or so lens that is faster than f/4. I'm aware of the Minolta APO 200/2.8, but have never shot with it so I don't know much about the lens, or other's similar. Are there others similar in a slightly shorter FL, i.e.. 85, 105, 135? I'm on a budget for this lens so the Sony 135/1.8 is kinda out, but depends on a few factors on my end. The other thing--AF should be pretty fast but doesn't have to be as fast as the A6000/70-200f4 combo. And of course, sharp wide open--at least for most of the frame.

Thanks!



Nov 11, 2016 at 08:37 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


Minolta made an 85 f/1.4, 100 f/2, and 135 f/2.8 in A-mount. You will not get AF unless you're using the LA-EA2 or LA-EA4, of course.


Nov 11, 2016 at 08:39 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


According to all tests or review that I've read, the Minolta AF 100/2 seems to be a superlative lens in every aspect. I'd guess that AF speed with the LA-EA2 won't be bad but far from what do you'll get from a native lens with internal motor.


Nov 11, 2016 at 10:21 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


Could you fit a used Batis 85/1.8 in your budget?


Nov 11, 2016 at 01:50 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


I had the Minolta AF 100mm f/2.0 and optically it was a great lens. Plus, it was light-weight and fairly compact. It is barely bigger than the FE 55mm f/1.8 but you need an adapter and I just hated the noisy screw drive AF. Maybe I am supersensitive to that or just spoiled by noiseless AF motor/system.


Nov 11, 2016 at 02:00 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


I published a review of the Minolta Af 2.8/200 APO on the a7ii a couple of weeks ago if that helps you.

As mentioned the 2/100 has a great reputation as well.



Nov 11, 2016 at 02:29 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


The Minolta 100/2 is a truly excellent lens. My favorite portrait lens ever. Color is extremely flattering.

The same can be true of the much, much less expensive 135/2.8. However, the 135/2.8 can struggle with some CA. It is by no means a bad lens, it's actually quite good. But for those who pixel peep or do high contrast settings as a matter of course, it can be a deal breaker. However, AF is quite quick. It is small, and relatively light. Great lens. But when I got my Minolta 80-200/2.8 HS G, I never touched it again.



Nov 11, 2016 at 03:34 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


I've got the 100/2 and the 135/2.8. I think my 135 is slightly off as it's not quite as sharp as some others describe theirs to be but the 100/2 is a fantastic lens. It renders very nicely, it's fast and it's very small for a fast 100.


Nov 11, 2016 at 06:28 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


freaklikeme wrote:
Could you fit a used Batis 85/1.8 in your budget?


I agree that it would be worth the difference of roughly $250-300. Personally, I would take the Batis 85mm f/1.8 over the Minolta 100mm /f2 in a heartbeat. Here are a few reasons: no need for any adapter, noiseless AF, and being a native FE lens, it enables you to take full advantage of the AF features (more AF features available in more recent cameras than the A6000 but still). And yes, the Batis is ⅓-stop faster although the minimal aperture difference should not make or break the decision.



Nov 11, 2016 at 06:51 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


AGeoJO wrote:
I had the Minolta AF 100mm f/2.0 and optically it was a great lens. Plus, it was light-weight and fairly compact. It is barely bigger than the FE 55mm f/1.8 but you need an adapter and I just hated the noisy screw drive AF. Maybe I am supersensitive to that or just spoiled by noiseless AF motor/system.


Very underrated lens. I loved it, looking to pick up another. Has a quick focus throw, which I like as it makes shooting actions things easier for me, but I know others prefer a slower one.



Nov 11, 2016 at 08:01 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


Thank you for the replies. I'm not in the loop in regards to the Zeiss lens line up. In fact, when I saw the name Batis I assumed it was another manual focus Zeiss lens. The fact that it's AF makes a huge difference to me. Glad to learn about it and the other Batis lenses.


Nov 11, 2016 at 10:19 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


wjlapier wrote:
Thank you for the replies. I'm not in the loop in regards to the Zeiss lens line up. In fact, when I saw the name Batis I assumed it was another manual focus Zeiss lens. The fact that it's AF makes a huge difference to me. Glad to learn about it and the other Batis lenses.


The Zeiss Batis line consists of AF lenses and they are native E-mount lenses. Currently there are 3 of them; 18mm f/2.8, 25mm f/2.0 and 85mm f/1.8. I hope that they are working on the 135mm f/2.0 lens . Here is a thread of images taken with the Batis line: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1451678.

The manual focus Zeiss lenses belong to the Loxia line. Just like lenses in the Batis line, they are native E-mount lenses. Currently the following lenses are available: 21mm f/2.8, 35mm f/2.0 and 50mm f/2.0. Recently, Zeiss added an 85mm f/2.4 in this line. Here is a thread of images taken with the Loxia line: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1389884.

In addition, there are tons of images taken with both lines and other lenses in the big FE image thread.



Nov 12, 2016 at 05:28 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


AGeoJO wrote:
The Zeiss Batis line consists of AF lenses and they are native E-mount lenses. Currently there are 3 of them; 18mm f/2.8, 25mm f/2.0 and 85mm f/1.8. I hope that they are working on the 135mm f/2.0 lens . Here is a thread of images taken with the Batis line: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1451678.

The manual focus Zeiss lenses belong to the Loxia line. Just like lenses in the Batis line, they are native E-mount lenses. Currently the following lenses are available: 21mm f/2.8, 35mm f/2.0 and 50mm f/2.0. Recently, Zeiss added an 85mm f/2.4 in this line. Here is a thread of images
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I too would like a Batis 135 f2. But the patents that get filed by Tamron that appear to be for Batis lenses (I neither know nor care what this means about who does the design work let's not raise that again) aside from the three current ones seem to have on,y a close focusing f2.8 135 (and close focus 60 and 180 mm lenses)

Given those options I'd rather the 2.8/180 and I suspect we'll get a faster 135 GM..




Nov 12, 2016 at 05:50 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Fast Minolta Tele ( Short ) Sony A6000 Q


In the past I have owned the 135 2.8 and the 200 2.8.

Both took beautiful photos but the 135 had significant issues with flare. They resulted in a very low contrast photos at times.

On the other hand the 200 2.8 was a superlative lens in every regard except for needing the adapter. I finally decided the 70-200 f/4 Sony was good enough in that range for most things. I did break down later and buy the Sony 85 1.4 FE lens which is also excellent but a little pricey.

For the money the Minolta 200 2.8 is hard to beat. (Actually at any price the quality would still be excellent).

Jim



Nov 13, 2016 at 07:34 PM





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